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Saturday, September 24, 2016

Donald Trump's policies would make the federal deficit much bigger. Hillary Clinton's wouldn't. That's the most important takeaway of a new report, one that maybe should get a little attention this campaign season. The report comes from Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, a non-partisan think tank that, as the name suggests, focuses heavily on whether the government has enough resources to meet its financial obligations. On Thursday, the committee published a new version, taking into account proposals that Clinton and Trump had introduced since the last analysis. The verdict was pretty similar to the last one. Once again, the committee found, Trump's proposed tax cut would pour red ink all over the federal ledger, while Clinton painstakingly identified enough new taxes to offset nearly the entire cost of the programs she would launch.

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The Trump's agenda, including a boost in defense spending and an even bigger cut to Medicaid, and ― according to the report -- you get a total impact of $5.3 trillion in new debt over the next 10 years. The story with Clinton's agenda is quite different. All told, the committee found, Clinton's policies would add $200 billion to the federal debt over 10 years. If Clinton's policies became law federal debt after 10 years would be 86 percent of GDP -- pretty much what the experts project as of now. If Trump's policies became law, by contrast, federal debt after 10 years would land at around 105 percent.

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Once again the continued narrative forwarded by conservatives that Democrats are fiscally irresponsible is exposed as the misdirected lie its often been in recent times. There is only one fiscally responsible major party candidate in this presidential election and it isn't the Republican. By no means is that a defining reason to vote for Hillary, but it does expose that Republicans are only concerned with debt when it's the Democrats making the budgetary decisions. They embrace debt when they're in complete control and they don't even try to hide it.

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2016-09-22 08:41 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Once again the continued narrative forwarded by conservatives that Democrats are fiscally irresponsible is exposed as the misdirected lie its often been in recent times"

I don't think that's much of a narrative anymore. Even die hard conservatives I personally know no longer say "fiscally" conservative. It's all about social wedge issues.

#2 | Posted by eberly at 2016-09-22 08:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Let's see. $5.3 T - $200 B = "Clinton is a liar"

#3 | Posted by mysterytoy at 2016-09-22 09:00 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

The Trump fluffers just keep on proving that deficits don't matter so long as the debt relates to war or tax cuts for billionaires.

#4 | Posted by 726 at 2016-09-22 09:15 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#2 - I see, because Trump is so truthful.

#5 | Posted by schmanch at 2016-09-22 10:42 AM | Reply

Of course we should believe everything these guys are spouting. Let's look at how accurate that bi-partisan CBO did scoring Obama in 2008 vs. reality today (www.cbo.gov). Looks like our Fed debt should be $12.3T at the end of this year...so Obama adding ~$2.9T to the national debt...that seems about right with reality? Oh, what's that you say about our National debt ~$20T today and Obama added $11T to the national debt? Oops...looks like these projections are not worth the paper they are printed on.

#6 | Posted by USinVN at 2016-09-22 11:00 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

#6

You do realize that the CBO isn't the CRFB, right? And second, the costs for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars weren't reflected in budget calculations until after Obama took office in 2009 and placed that hidden debt back into the general budget. And lastly the full effects of the Great Recession and the need for increased government spending in 2009 couldn't have possibly been calculated in 2008.

Your entire post is a mash of meaningless 2008 projections rendered moot by events that hadn't yet unfolded.

#7 | Posted by tonyroma at 2016-09-22 12:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

"Your entire post is a mash of meaningless 2008 projections rendered moot by events that hadn't yet unfolded.

#7 | POSTED BY TONYROMA"

Wow - yet, you seem to think Hillary will not drag us into more protracted wars in the ME? A 'model' is only valid if it can predict the future accurately.

#8 | Posted by USinVN at 2016-09-22 07:41 PM | Reply

There's moving the goal posts, and there is running to another stadium and pointing out entirely different ones.

#9 | Posted by YAV at 2016-09-22 07:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Even die hard conservatives I personally know no longer say "fiscally" conservative. It's all about social wedge issues.

Which is why I consistently wonder why you still run with that crowd.

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-09-22 07:48 PM | Reply

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The report makes static assumptions about economic growth. This is the best the Committee can do?

If Clinton is elected, I and other conservatives will simply increase legal tax avoidance and continue moving money out of the US and into freer, more business friendly markets.

And probably relocate there eventually if it gets bad enough.

Oh, and save our money instead of buying NFL merchandise and rice beer.

The Depression will "surprisingly" and "unexpectedly" continue.

Blue America can fight over a shrinking pie.

#11 | Posted by alacrity at 2016-09-24 10:30 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Even die hard conservatives I personally know no longer say "fiscally" conservative. It's all about social wedge issues.

#2 | POSTED BY EBERLY"

I don't see a single conservative in my circle supporting anything other than the government balancing its budget. No one I know is interested in the social wedge issues and we laugh at the religious bible thumpers that abandoned Trump because he was not religious enough. I think you must be caught in a time warp because the Trump GOP is nothing like the GOP of 4, 8, or 12 years ago. The Neocons and Glenn Beck types have been run off in favor of bringing in working class former Dem voters.

#12 | Posted by USinVN at 2016-09-24 10:37 AM | Reply

bipartisan? after 9 democrats to 2 republicans in the first eleven I stopped, nothing about this committee is bipartisan. Virtually all of them are on university boards which is clearly left leaning.

#13 | Posted by Crassus at 2016-09-24 10:43 AM | Reply

"Reagan proved that deficits don't matter."
~ Dick Cheney
GOP Hero & Unindicted War Criminal

#14 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2016-09-24 10:49 AM | Reply


Even die hard conservatives I personally know no longer say "fiscally" conservative. It's all about social wedge issues.

That may be a geographic trend...

#15 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2016-09-24 10:51 AM | Reply

I and other conservatives will simply increase legal tax avoidance and continue moving money out of the US...
#11 | POSTED BY ALACRITY

Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out, traitor.

#16 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2016-09-24 11:26 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I and other conservatives will simply increase legal tax avoidance and continue to pretend to have the money to be moving money out of the US.."

FTFY

In reality you don't have a dime in an overseas bank and you post simply to pretend to be part of the 1% which you are not part of and which makes you look like a dupe. You carry their water as they laugh at you. I'm laughing too!

#17 | Posted by danni at 2016-09-24 11:52 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#12 I don't see a single conservative in my circle supporting anything other than the government balancing its budget.

Yet you will vote for a $5 Trillion increase in the debt. You are funny.

#18 | Posted by bored at 2016-09-24 02:04 PM | Reply

Big big mistake $5.0 vs $0.2 trillion required for the RW because they obviously don't know anything about math. The current headline assumes far too much competency in math.

#19 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2016-09-24 03:09 PM | Reply

If Clinton is elected, I and other conservatives will simply increase legal tax avoidance and continue moving money out of the US and into freer, more business friendly markets.

As an expression of your patriotism, no doubt.

#20 | Posted by jpw at 2016-09-24 03:46 PM | Reply

Neither set of expenditures is realistic as a budget and new lays/programs must be passed by Congress and they can promise all they want, but they will not be able to deliver. UNLESS, the next president also does end runs around the Congress.

#21 | Posted by MSgt at 2016-09-24 06:14 PM | Reply

Huffpo lost credibility. It is a bias media and is a known persecutor of Trump supporter. Huffpo hates conservative ideas too.

Anything coming from Huffpo is water off the duck's back for Trump. The next President: Donald Trump.

#22 | Posted by takitez at 2016-09-25 12:31 PM | Reply

Well, considering ACA supposedly reduces the deficit, it would appear that Democrats are much better at gaming the CBO than Republicans.

Neither party cares a whit about deficits, the debt or unfunded liabilities. Both parties will drive this country into bankruptcy - inaction on entitlements alone guarantees this.

#23 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-09-25 03:30 PM | Reply

"I don't see a single conservative in my circle supporting anything other than the government balancing its budget"

Maybe you should look outside your circle, and maybe pick up a history book.

Bill Clinton delivered true surplus budgets, as far as the eye could see, to GWB. Bush, Cheney, and the Rs purposely decided to reset the sights of the fiscal ship of state. They even voted on sunsets, so they wouldn't need Dem votes.

It's possible everyone in your small circle is interested in balancing the budget, but the Rs in Washington, when given a balanced budget, were more interested in looting the Treasury.

#24 | Posted by Danforth at 2016-09-26 09:53 AM | Reply

"The next President: Donald Trump."

Aren't you the same guy who predicted President Romney?

#25 | Posted by Danforth at 2016-09-26 09:54 AM | Reply

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