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Tuesday, September 20, 2016

An iconic American company, McDonald's, has quietly outsourced the jobs of 70 white-collar professionals in Ohio to foreign H-1B workers.

The H-1B outsourcing in the nation's heartland showcases the growing corporate use of foreign H-1B workers to replace American white-collar professionals, and it comes after companies have used waves of legal and illegal migrants to slash blue-collar jobs and wages in Ohio and around the country.

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White-collar outsourcing "is not just a Silicon Valley thing anymore, it is happening all over" the country, said Steve Camarota, head of research at the Center for Immigration Studies.

Nationwide, the foreign population of white-collar temporary workers, dubbed "guest-workers," now exceeds 800,000, including roughly 650,000 H-1B workers on multi-year visas.

The outsourcing in Columbus, Ohio, was explained as a cost saving effort by a McDonald's spokeswoman. "To deliver $500 million in savings, the vast majority by the end of 2017, we are restructuring many aspects of our business, including an accounting function," said spokeswoman Terri Hickey.

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The outsourcing in Columbus, Ohio, was explained as a cost saving effort by a McDonald's spokeswoman.

But if the Dems had only stopped immigration McDonald's would have happily eaten the loss and kept the American workers, right?

#1 | Posted by jpw at 2016-09-20 11:27 PM | Reply

Immigration?

This thread desperately needs some love from the Mackris.

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-09-20 11:31 PM | Reply

When enough middle class people lose their jobs maybe we will see a change. I think Americans looked at the immigrants as the ones doing the jobs no one else wanted like low skilled labor.

Ain't the Democrats and Republicans great? Keep voting for them and you're guaranteed more of the same.

#3 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2016-09-21 08:30 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

When they did this to IT workers companies said it was because they couldnt find qualified workers. They can't say that about accountant, they admit it's just about cost saving. If this happens in your area, the upside is the quality of Indian food should improve.

#4 | Posted by visitor_ at 2016-09-21 08:42 AM | Reply

PLEASE tell me who lets them in our country. Is it Trump? Is it hiltabeast and her buddy little o? Who is letting them in?

#5 | Posted by Sniper at 2016-09-21 09:05 AM | Reply

Both, sniper, at the behest of their business buddies who own them.

Are you finally starting to see the light that those corporations you worship see you as little more than something to scrape off their shoe?

#6 | Posted by jpw at 2016-09-21 10:09 AM | Reply

I already very rarely bought anything from McDonalds, now I won't ever spend another dime with them. Other Americans ought to do the same.

#7 | Posted by danni at 2016-09-21 10:41 AM | Reply

Wow. I'd like to see an example of how McDonald's sees this savings.

These workers have to work here, correct?

What's the wage and benefits of the accounting person at McDonald's and what are they replacing them with?

Also, what skills are we talking about?

How much are they saving on each worker?

#8 | Posted by eberly at 2016-09-21 10:49 AM | Reply

Both, sniper, at the behest of their business buddies who own them.

Are you finally starting to see the light that those corporations you worship see you as little more than something to scrape off their shoe?

#6 | Posted by jpw

Now, aren't you the smart one. The damn government lets them in!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who is in control of the immigration policy?

Tell me jpw, why should the dem administration help those evil big businesses?

#9 | Posted by Sniper at 2016-09-21 03:02 PM | Reply

Who is letting them in?

#5 | Posted by Sniper

That would be Congress.

Who is in control of the immigration policy?

Same answer. Congress.

#10 | Posted by donnerboy at 2016-09-21 04:07 PM | Reply

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Donner,

DAPA and DACA had ZERO to do with Congress.

#11 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-09-21 04:08 PM | Reply

Who is letting them in?

#5 | Posted by Sniper

That would be Congress.

Who is in control of the immigration policy?

Same answer. Congress.

#10 | Posted by donnerboy

You better go back to school and take several courses in US government. I feel sorry for you donnie.

#12 | Posted by Sniper at 2016-09-21 04:54 PM | Reply

Who is in control of the immigration policy?
Tell me jpw, why should the dem administration help those evil big businesses?

#9 | POSTED BY SNIPER AT 2016-09-21 03:02 PM | FLAG:

The policy is meant to allow businesses to continue to grow by hiring people from abroad if they can't be found here.

Some businesses abuse the policies. They should be held accountable for their accountants.

#13 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2016-09-21 07:37 PM | Reply

I feel sorry for you donnie.

#12 | Posted by Sniper

Don't cry for me Argentina.

Article I, Section 8, clause 4 of the Con­stitution entrusts the federal legislative branch with the power to "establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization." This clear textual command for uniformity establishes that the federal government, specifically Congress, is responsible for crafting the laws that determine how and when noncitizens can become nat­uralized citizens of the United States.

...

From the late 19th century through the present day, the Supreme Court has upheld almost every federal immigra­tion regulation against constitutional challenge, citing Congress's plenary power in this area. As Justice Kennedy wrote in the 2012 decision in Arizona v. United States:

The Government of the Unit­ed States has broad, undoubted power over the subject of immi­gration and the status of aliens. … This authority rests, in part, on the National Government's con­stitutional power to "establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization," U. S. Const., Art. I, §8, cl. 4, and its inherent power as sovereign to control and conduct relations with foreign nations….

www.americanbar.org

#14 | Posted by donnerboy at 2016-09-21 07:46 PM | Reply

Mackris, Mackris, Mackris!

It's funny that she can't hear the immigration dog whistle unless the word illegal is there to trigger her.

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-09-21 07:49 PM | Reply

How much are they saving on each worker?
#8 | Posted by eberly

Just on salary, probably around $5K. That's the differential in the tech world, so I'd expect the same elsewhere. But the real savings is in the fact that a work visa pretty much makes you beholden to the employer. These workers aren't in a position to job shop.

Of course, $5K could be low.

"On average, applications for H-1B workers in computer occupations were for wages $13,000 less than Americans in the same occupation and state." www.workpermit.com

It's hilarious how this topic is kyrptonite to Mackris.

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-09-21 07:54 PM | Reply

-The Government of the Unit­ed States has broad, undoubted power over the subject of immi­gration and the status of aliens. … "

Sounds good. Let's reduce immigration, legal or otherwise, by 90%, and help the American working class.

#17 | Posted by nullifidian at 2016-09-21 07:55 PM | Reply

DAPA and DACA had ZERO to do with Congress.

#11 | Posted by JeffJ

While the President has enforcement discretion Congress makes the law. And the Supreme Court can overrule the President (or Congress).

If Congress does not like the President's interpretation or enforcement of the law then they are welcome to take the President to court and or create a new more stricter law.

#18 | Posted by donnerboy at 2016-09-21 07:58 PM | Reply

DAPA and DACA are law - they were created out of whole cloth and confer positive benefits onto people that actual law forbids them from receiving.

#19 | Posted by JeffJ at 2016-09-21 08:01 PM | Reply

DAPA was tossed out by the Supreme Court, wasn't it?
Isn't that exactly how the process is supposed to work?

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-09-21 08:06 PM | Reply

"On average, applications for H-1B workers in computer occupations were for wages $13,000 less than Americans in the same occupation and state." www.workpermit.com"

They are supposed to be paying what an american gets paid, or the average american gets paid.

#21 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2016-09-21 08:50 PM | Reply

I have clients who utilize guest workers but it's because they are large commercial AG and farm organizations.

They can't find this help. They aren't firing anybody to hire these workers and they make pretty good money.

#22 | Posted by eberly at 2016-09-21 08:56 PM | Reply

They can't find this help

Why would they look when they're being spoon-fed guest workers by Uncle Sam?
Life is good on the big business plantation.

#23 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-09-21 09:01 PM | Reply

It's expensive. This isn't about cheap. It's about supply.

#24 | Posted by eberly at 2016-09-21 09:30 PM | Reply

What's "big business"?

These are locally owned farms and commercial AG business.

Not Cargill or ADM

#25 | Posted by eberly at 2016-09-21 09:32 PM | Reply

These are locally owned farms and commercial AG business.

Okay. You described them as "large... organizations."

#26 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-09-21 09:39 PM | Reply

You're right.

My bad. Less than 50 employees.

#27 | Posted by eberly at 2016-09-21 09:40 PM | Reply

It's expensive. This isn't about cheap. It's about supply.

Are these high-tech H-1B jobs or something?
Because you said "guest worker" which to me means migrant seasonal farm worker a la H-2A visa.

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-09-21 09:42 PM | Reply

I don't have all day to post on every thread.

Apparently you ran out of time to talk about H-1B immigration too.

#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-09-21 09:46 PM | Reply

H-2A

#31 | Posted by eberly at 2016-09-21 09:47 PM | Reply


What's "big business"?
POSTED BY EBERLY

Oh lawdy, commence the nuance wars.

#32 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2016-09-21 09:48 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

H-2A

Those people are not paid much, Eberly.
Or did you mean it costs the businesses more than market rate to have Uncle Sam rassle up some field hands for them?

#33 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-09-21 09:51 PM | Reply

How do you know what they're paid?

#34 | Posted by eberly at 2016-09-21 09:53 PM | Reply

Understand, I know exactly what they make

#35 | Posted by eberly at 2016-09-21 09:54 PM | Reply

That makes one of us.

I guessed they are low paid based on other guest workers used in other lines of work.

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-09-21 10:08 PM | Reply

Maybe they are just hiring them because they are better educated, and therefore will make less mistakes than 'lazy' Americans.

ps: 'Lazy' Americans - obama's words, not mine ;)

#37 | Posted by MSgt at 2016-09-21 11:18 PM | Reply

Yes, lets keep that immigration legal and illegal door wide open....

Honest question.

Do you think if you had your way business would just shrug and hire Americans at American level wages?

#38 | Posted by jpw at 2016-09-22 12:45 AM | Reply

Tell me jpw, why should the dem administration help those evil big businesses?

Because the Dems are as beholden to business interests as the Repubs are.

Can you admit that the reason immigrants come here is to take jobs being offered by big business for lower wages than Americans will accept?

#39 | Posted by jpw at 2016-09-22 12:47 AM | Reply

Do you think if you had your way business would just shrug and hire Americans at American level wages?

He's not even opposed to H-1B immigration. As a tech guy, he knows how much tech companies profit from it.
He only hates the poor immigrants... and presumably the farmers who need them.

#40 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-09-22 02:16 AM | Reply

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