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Tuesday, September 20, 2016

New York Times Editorial Board: How does a lie come to be widely taken as the truth? The answer is disturbingly simple: Repeat it over and over again. When faced with facts that contradict the lie, repeat it louder. This, in a nutshell, is the story of claims of voting fraud in America -- and particularly of voter impersonation fraud, the only kind that voter ID laws can possibly prevent. ... There is virtually no voter fraud anywhere in the U.S. Out of one billion votes cast in all U.S. elections between 2000-2014, there were 31 possible cases of impersonation fraud. Other violations were also rare. So why do so many people continue to believe this falsehood? Credit for this mass deception goes to Republican lawmakers, who have for years pushed a fake story about voter fraud, and thus the necessity of voter ID laws, in an effort to reduce voting among specific groups of Democratic-leaning voters. Those groups -- mainly minorities, the poor and students -- are less likely to have the required forms of identification.

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The scary thing is how many Americans have bought into this charade. It shouldn't be surprising that the Republican Party's standard-bearer, Donald Trump, has elevated the lie about voting fraud and "rigged elections" to a centerpiece of his campaign.

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"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it."

#1 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2016-09-20 05:50 AM | Reply

DOC

Ah yes, the well known philosophy of this guy:

a4.files.biography.com

Amazing how Trump likes to parody the worst that human beings the world has to offer.

#2 | Posted by Twinpac at 2016-09-20 06:14 AM | Reply

DOC

Along the lines of the world's worst, check out what Mike Pence had to say.

www.businessinsider.com ~ I'll model my vice presidency after Dick Cheney."

Now ain't that just too cute.

#3 | Posted by Twinpac at 2016-09-20 06:21 AM | Reply

Trump, a devotee of the Swastika Club.

Pence, a devotee of Dick Cheney.

That's enough to gag a maggot.

#4 | Posted by Twinpac at 2016-09-20 06:26 AM | Reply

If it's racist to require ID why is it that there isn't an effort to apply it to all other aspects of life?

#5 | Posted by mysterytoy at 2016-09-20 07:59 AM | Reply

#5

IF it's racist?

What, never passed a US history class?

#6 | Posted by Danforth at 2016-09-20 08:25 AM | Reply

#3

TWINPAC -

What a relief!

#7 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2016-09-20 09:14 AM | Reply

The reason there is virtually no individual voter fraud is simple, 100 million voters dilutes the value of one vote and any benefit which can be realized by voting twice or thrice, a process which is time consuming.

But there is plenty of sanctioned fraud such as gerrymandering, fake felony lists and deliberate misallocation of voting machines. Unsanctioned fraud includes paper ballot destruction, and computer file tampering. These are the real dangers to our democracy, which were employed recently by the campaign machines of Shrub and Hillary.

#8 | Posted by nutcase at 2016-09-20 09:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

WE have a Repubican Party with diminishing numbers because of demographics, they knew this 30 years ago and set out to tilt the playing field in their favor to retain power and it worked. They can't win fair elections. Jimmy Carter said it, we are no longer a democracy, we are an oligarchy. George W. Bush did not win Florida in 2000. That's another lie that has been repeated so many times that people believe it. There are many such like put for by the Republicans and no, both parties are not the same. Anyone that claims they are is just a liar or a Republican which is the same thing.

#9 | Posted by danni at 2016-09-20 09:54 AM | Reply

News Source: New York Times - The Opinion Pages

#10 | Posted by wsmith1625 at 2016-09-20 10:52 AM | Reply

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I wonder this about pretty much any Republican issue. They're practically all lies. Why do they get to continuously control the political discussion in this country?

#11 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2016-09-20 11:18 AM | Reply

"Why do they get to continuously control the political discussion in this country?"

Because with the Fariness Doctrine being eliminated and then the Telecommunications Act of 1996 the media is owned by a few very large corporations who benefit from Republicans who cut taxes, regulations, refuse to enforce Sherman Anti-trust Act, etc.
Why isn't Trump being hounded by reporters wanting to know more about him bribing Pam Bondi, the AG of Florida.

#12 | Posted by danni at 2016-09-20 11:42 AM | Reply

Why do they get to continuously control the political discussion in this country?

#11 | POSTED BY TFDNIHILIST

Because they make more noise.

#13 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2016-09-20 11:44 AM | Reply

#11, Lets see, they own all the newspapers, broadcast networks, and politicians in DC, whom the usual gang of conservative idiots all claim are too liberal. The gang of academic useful idiots learn that there are rich rewards for going along to get along and isolation for speaking truth to power.

#14 | Posted by nutcase at 2016-09-20 11:49 AM | Reply

I have a need for cash in the coming months so plan to sell some of my equity mutual funds at the end of the month. I may do so sooner. Political risk is typically not something that US investors consider when valuing securities issued by US companies--until now. The cascade of lies being told by GOP politicians are swamping those told by the other side, and the result will be an even greater distrust of elected officials. The voter fraud canard is a great example of the lies being foisted on the US populace, and it will only get worse if Trump is elected and the Repubs remain in control of the House and Senate...

#15 | Posted by catdog at 2016-09-20 12:24 PM | Reply

What no righties willing to stand up and say voter fraud was actually a problem?

They're still sticking with the "getting an ID is easy" talking point.

Its easy for most. It's still an impediment to vote in order to solve a problem that didn't exist.

#16 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2016-09-20 01:28 PM | Reply

The GOP's phony "voter fraud" meme is no more phony than the Birther meme.
Which I used to spew, but don't anymore.
*Wink*wink*
~ Delusional Donald

#17 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2016-09-20 01:36 PM | Reply

In person voter fraud exists but not certainly not to the extent hyped in the media. The state interests found by the SC to uphold the facial constitutionality of voter ID are:

Election Modernization

Voter Fraud

Safeguarding Voter Confidence.

www.law.cornell.edu

#18 | Posted by et_al at 2016-09-20 01:56 PM | Reply

The GOP sure do love them some Myths.

#19 | Posted by donnerboy at 2016-09-20 01:56 PM | Reply

This may be a controversial opinion, but any political party which relies on voters too irresponsible and dumb to secure a government ID for themselves, has no business voting on issues of government.

#20 | Posted by ReformedNeocon at 2016-09-20 02:10 PM | Reply

No one has come up with a better system than paper ballots marked with soft pencils and optical card readers. With elections in November and inauguration the following January, there is no great need for instant results and plenty of time to reconfirm a solid paper trail, if need be.

Voter ID is really only a hardship on the handicapped population, the blind, wheelchair bound who have as much right to vote, if they are citizens, as the rest of us. Besides, registration lists provide some additional control against this non-existent problem, for a country with a low participation rate.

U.S. turnout in the 2012 presidential election was 53.6%. Looking at the most recent national elections in OECD countries, the highest turnout rates were in Belgium (87.2%), Turkey (84.3%) and Sweden (82.6%).

#21 | Posted by nutcase at 2016-09-20 02:34 PM | Reply

The GOP is the party of lies and conspiracy theories. No changing that.

#22 | Posted by Sycophant at 2016-09-20 02:36 PM | Reply

This may be a controversial opinion, but any political party which relies on voters too irresponsible and dumb to secure a government ID for themselves, has no business voting on issues of government.

#20 | Posted by ReformedNeocon

Right. How dare someone be so DUMB and IRRESPONSIBLE as to be poor and live far away from their city's municipal offices?

The fundemental flaw with republicans is the inability to imagine anyone could be dealing with hardship that they themselves haven't experienced.

#23 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2016-09-20 04:45 PM | Reply

Make America Great Again.
Like when we didn't have any voter ID laws.

#24 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-09-20 05:12 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

This story is an OUTRIGHT Bold FACED LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Before Voter ID wills passed.

DEMOCRATS WERE CAUGHT IN NEW ORLEANS
DEMOCRATS WERE CAUGHT IN NEW ORLEANS
DEMOCRATS WERE CAUGHT IN NEW ORLEANS

The buses they were running were followed and videoed taking the same voters from poll to poll, people were seen being given papers with a name to use to vote and seen voting at every polling booth. Voters questioned said they were paid to vote.

There was no way to prosecute this because only the investigators saw it and when you tracked down the names that voted they were listed as living at vacant multi story buildings. Thousands of people voted but no one can even find where these people actually live or if they actually exist.

You can tell this lie over and over the fraud is going on they are just not getting caught because it happens in areas where the officials let it happen and refuse to arrest them. IN NO they filed complaints with all the evidence in congress and nothing was done.

#25 | Posted by tmaster at 2016-09-20 06:45 PM | Reply

The buses they were running were followed and videoed taking the same voters from poll to poll, people were seen being given papers with a name to use to vote and seen voting at every polling booth. Voters questioned said they were paid to vote.

#25 | Posted by tmaster

Oh I can't wait to see the BREITBART link to that gem.

Do you never get tired of falling for their crap?

#26 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2016-09-20 07:04 PM | Reply

The buses they were running were followed and videoed taking the same voters from poll to poll, people were seen being given papers with a name to use to vote and seen voting at every polling booth. Voters questioned said they were paid to vote.

What in the world are you blathering about now?

If there are videos you will have no trouble linking to them.

I won't hold my breath.

#27 | Posted by donnerboy at 2016-09-20 07:49 PM | Reply

Alabama passed a voter ID law and the following year closed 30 DMV offices, deliberately decreasing access and making compliance more difficult.

#28 | Posted by nutcase at 2016-09-21 11:19 AM | Reply

Much to the chagrin of many, elections and voter registration is controlled by the states. If a state wants the voter to be required to have a photo ID, it is on them, and there is nothing the feds can do about it, despite the court cases. Texas provides photo ID to anyone for free, if they can provide a birth certificate or have some proof of residence for ten years or more, like a high school diploma or school transcript. We have about 3 million non citizens living here, so it is an issue. Want to find some voter fraud? Ask me. I have watched it in action. Such as, Absentee ballots sent to one address, a nursing home that cares for demented patients. There go 60 or so votes for the Democrat party. Primaries are the major area of fraud, but we don't take them as seriously.

#29 | Posted by docnjo at 2016-09-22 07:39 AM | Reply

The GOP is the party of lies and conspiracy theories. No changing that.
#22 | Posted by Sycophant

Nice counselor, do you have something on topic or are you just being a whiny b***h?

#30 | Posted by et_al at 2016-09-22 08:07 AM | Reply

...closed 30 DMV offices...

None of which had anything to do with issuing voter ID.

#31 | Posted by et_al at 2016-09-22 08:09 AM | Reply

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