Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Sunday, September 18, 2016

Hillary Clinton has a 9-point lead among likely Pennsylvania voters as Donald Trump continues to struggle among groups key to winning the state, according to a Morning Call/Muhlenberg College poll released Saturday. The survey, conducted Sept. 12-16, shows Clinton leading the presidential race here with support from 47 percent of likely voters who say they intend to vote for her or are leaning that way. Trump is at 38 percent, while 11 percent say they'd pick neither of the major-party choices, and 4 percent are not sure.

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Seems legit....

#1 | Posted by USinVN at 2016-09-18 10:11 AM | Reply

The right-wing RealClearPolitics has Hillary leading Pennsylvania by 6.6% in its polling average.

A Republican hasn't won Pennsylvania since 1988.

Trump's path to 270 is extremely difficult without winning this state.

#2 | Posted by rcade at 2016-09-18 10:49 AM | Reply

You misspelled toll. it costs $2.50 to get on the turnpike.

#3 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2016-09-18 11:26 AM | Reply

Poll: Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton tied across battleground states - www.cbsnews.com

"One reason this race remains tight and most have made up their minds: partisans have very negative outlooks on what might happen if the other side wins. Eighty-six percent of Democrats say the country might be "damaged beyond repair" if Trump wins, and 83 percent of Republicans think the country might be "damaged beyond repair" if Clinton wins."

#4 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2016-09-18 11:39 AM | Reply

83 percent of Republicans think the country might be "damaged beyond repair"

83 percent of Republicans think it already is. "Once great country" and all that.

#5 | Posted by REDIAL at 2016-09-18 12:59 PM | Reply

The Hillary juggernaut, the most extensively planned, most heavily funded campaign in US history, riding the coattail of a reasonably popular presidency, is going to only squeak out a victory by a 2-3% margin in 1 critical semi-blue state, that's if FiveThirtyEight numbers are to be believed. Not exactly a blowout.

#6 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2016-09-18 01:15 PM | Reply

riding the coattail of a reasonably popular presidency

#6 | Posted by sitzkrieg

That Kenyan popular? How the hell did that happen?

#7 | Posted by Zed at 2016-09-18 02:20 PM | Reply

Eighty-six percent of Democrats say the country might be "damaged beyond repair" if Trump wins, and 83 percent of Republicans think the country might be "damaged beyond repair" if Clinton wins."

#4 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2016-09-18 11:39 AMFlag: (Choose)FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusive

And 83-86% percent of all voters asked: Who the hell is Jill Stein?

#8 | Posted by Zed at 2016-09-18 02:21 PM | Reply

That Kenyan popular? How the hell did that happen?

#7 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2016-09-18 02:20 PM | FLAG:

Gas prices went under $2.

#9 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2016-09-18 03:32 PM | Reply

democrats have destroyed this country. detroit, chicago crime, dying cities, bankrupt california, division of our people, god and the founding institutions under daily attack, crime, corruption, blatant lying, no checks and balances, rigged elections (poor bernie).

#10 | Posted by outbacker at 2016-09-18 04:03 PM | Reply

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Wait to you add the Amish and Bible believers who are not sampled.
Hillary can not tell the truth if her life depended upon it.
I can list more the 50 negative attributes ascribe to this evil anti-god, anti-american lying Sec. of State. Will somebody help identify one Godly attribute or accomplishment during her political career.

The attack dog media has not found one proof of ungodliness in TRUMPs character.

#11 | Posted by geneww38 at 2016-09-18 09:34 PM | Reply

Will somebody help identify one Godly attribute

She gave birth.

#12 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-09-18 09:35 PM | Reply

The attack dog media has not found one proof of ungodliness in TRUMPs character.

#11 | POSTED BY GENEWW38

Except the adultery, greed and lying, I suppose.

#14 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2016-09-19 10:11 AM | Reply

"The attack dog media has not found one proof of ungodliness in TRUMPs character."

In an answer at Thursday night's presidential debate, tycoon Donald Trump said he would force the U.S. military to commit war crimes. Mr. Trump has suggested that he'd order the U.S. military to kill families of Muslim terrorists and institute interrogation techniques worse than waterboarding, itself widely condemned as torture. Torture and retaliatory executions are both war crimes under international law. In a recent interview, former National Security Agency and CIA director Michael Hayden said that the U.S. military might refuse such orders, which would constitute war crimes. The U.S. military has been trained for decades that an order to commit a war crime is not an legal order and thus must not be obeyed. This was brought up by one of the moderators at the Fox News debate, and Mr. Trump brushed it aside. He said his personality would count more. "They won't refuse. They're not going to refuse me," he said. "If I say do it, they're going to do it."

www.washingtontimes.com

#15 | Posted by Danforth at 2016-09-19 10:33 AM | Reply

The attack dog media has not found one proof of ungodliness in TRUMPs character.

#11 | POSTED BY GENEWW38

Trump displays his "ungodly" behavior every day. Are you not paying attention?

Wait....

Which God do you worship?

Seth?

That could be the problem here.

#16 | Posted by donnerboy at 2016-09-19 11:15 AM | Reply

I've really reached the point where I don't trust any of these polls. Depending on which candidate you support you can find plenty of polls claiming your candidate is winning. It has gotten stupid. And funniest of all, randomly some of these pollsters will turn out to have guessed correctly, so after the election they will have all sorts of new found 'credibility', a la Nate Silver.

#17 | Posted by moder8 at 2016-09-19 03:13 PM | Reply

The attack dog media has not found one proof of ungodliness in TRUMPs character.

www.washingtontimes.com

#15 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2016-09-19 10:33 AM

Wow, if Danforth had to reach back to a March, 2016 article in the MoonieTimes to find something to bash Trump with, he must be panicking about Illary's slide...

#18 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2016-09-19 03:45 PM | Reply

Still have not seen one post as to why Hill is qualified (besides she gave birth).

#19 | Posted by fishpaw at 2016-09-19 03:51 PM | Reply

This poll is a total joke. Drudge should focus on substantial information and intelligence instead of reaching so far as to discredit their journalistic integrity.
Look, this poll consisted of a measly 405 phone calls and boasts a margin of error at +-%5. %49 of the respondents were democratic voters living in a democratic community. Still couldn't muster better numbers for the criminal Hillary!
Since Drudge couldn't find it within their honest hearts to provide the link to the actual "poll" for the purpose of analyzing its methodology, I've provided the link for you here. I'd recommend Drudge not be so insulting of the intelligence and autonomy of its readership in the future.

www.muhlenberg.edu

#20 | Posted by Nemisistatic at 2016-09-19 04:21 PM | Reply

The poll is garbage propaganda. Study it for yourself. Compare 405 people from a predominantly democratic area answering the phone survey, versus the millions of people we see responding to social media like FB. It should be extremely evident that Hillary has a fraction of the support that Trump does. Now consider political rally turnout... I could go on. Anyway, here's the actual poll content:

www.muhlenberg.edu

#21 | Posted by Nemisistatic at 2016-09-19 04:31 PM | Reply

Searches related to NEMISISTATIC
breitbart
lucianne
hotair
daily caller
newsmax
wnd
the blaze
free republic

www.google.com

Speaking of garbage propaganda....

That's like the nuke of intellectual insults.

#22 | Posted by Corky at 2016-09-19 05:47 PM | Reply

Still have not seen one post as to why Hill is qualified (besides she gave birth).

#19 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

I'm no fan of Hillary's by any stretch, but to say a lawyer who was a Senator and the Secretary of State is not qualified to be President is downright ridiculous.

#23 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2016-09-19 06:09 PM | Reply

So, your point is that I chose an unfavorable nickname for my drudge account? While, also suggesting that I might frequent those sites? If so, you're wrong. Anyway, did you have a relevant response to my post?

#24 | Posted by Nemisistatic at 2016-09-19 07:51 PM | Reply

This poll is a total joke.

Are all these polls jokes too?

www.realclearpolitics.com

Let me guess. You don't like what they are saying so they must all be "skewed" am I correct?

#25 | Posted by donnerboy at 2016-09-19 08:11 PM | Reply

"Wow, if Danforth had to reach back to a March, 2016 article"

Good point. Why, it's been months since Trump said that. Remind me...how many times has he retracted that statement in the meantime?

#26 | Posted by Danforth at 2016-09-19 08:21 PM | Reply

Then again, ROC, you've proven you'll fall for anything.

Tell us again how Chelsea gets all the Clinton Foundation assets without paying any taxes. That was a whopper.

#27 | Posted by Danforth at 2016-09-19 08:23 PM | Reply

Compare 405 people from a predominantly democratic area answering the phone survey, versus the millions of people we see responding to social media like FB.

Care to share with us your link for your data on that or did you just pull that out of your rear?

FB and social media "likes" are NOT representative of American voters.

According to the Pew Research Center, only 58 percent of American adults use Facebook. And apparently most of them are young, low income and female.

Here is a link for what you might be thinking about. Go ahead and tout that if it makes you feel better but it is not representative of likely voters like a direct poll is.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

#28 | Posted by donnerboy at 2016-09-19 08:27 PM | Reply

"versus the millions of people we see responding to social media like FB"

You've just outed yourself as someone who has no idea how to conduct a poll. Thanks.

#29 | Posted by Danforth at 2016-09-19 08:34 PM | Reply

Tell us again how Chelsea gets all the Clinton Foundation assets without paying any taxes. That was a whopper.

#27 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2016-09-19 08:23 PM

I never said that she gets it without paying taxes, I said that on dissolution of the trust she gets it after paying 25% tax on the net value of the assets. You called BS that she could even get the corpus of the charitable trust and asked for a citation, I gave the applicable statute to you and then got *crickets* in return.

But nice try at revisionist history.

#30 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2016-09-19 08:52 PM | Reply

See, no worries as Hillary has PA all wrapped up :)

#31 | Posted by MSgt at 2016-09-19 11:31 PM | Reply

Seriously? I posted the link in my first post. Click it.

#32 | Posted by Nemisistatic at 2016-09-20 12:52 AM | Reply

Donnerboy,
Like I said before, I posted the link to the four day poll and its methodology. I absolutely understand how polls work and how they are conducted including margins of error, design of questions i.e. Verbiage, order of questions etc. If you think for one second that thousands upon thousands of positive comments placed on trumps Facebook page that hosts over 10 million followers compared to the thousands of negative comments left on clintons is worthy of overlooking for an archaic system like the methodology behind polls, you need to get your head checked.
Let's not forget rallies, Twitter and other social network media that paints the same picture. Go ahead, keep your faith placed entirely in small meaningless polls consisting margins of error almost as large as the results them self. If that makes you feel informed and with your finger on the pulse of collective opinion, good on ya. I'm telling you as a person well educated in political science that your opinion is next to baseless if based on polls like this. They are propaganda pure and simple regardless who they say is ahead of the race. My last statistics class was undergraduate (300 level). I'm working on finishing masters in a political science/law program currently. I won't take the time on this forum to educate you or, respond too much to empty insults. Fun as that can be, I simply don't have the time. Polls are not used to gather public opinion nearly as much as they are used to sway it. Fact.
wake up. Look around develop some autonomy of thought and you will see beyond the spoon being stuffed down your throat.

#33 | Posted by Nemisistatic at 2016-09-20 01:12 AM | Reply

I gave the applicable statute to you and then got *crickets* in return.

And once again, I hear the chirping...typical.

#34 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2016-09-20 02:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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