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Saturday, September 17, 2016

A month after suggesting Hillary Clinton could be attacked by "Second Amendment people," Donald Trump used similar language during a campaign rally on Friday. Speaking in Miami, Trump accused Clinton of wanting to "abolish" the Second Amendment, then criticized her for traveling with armed Secret Service bodyguards. "I think that her bodyguards should drop all weapons -- they should disarm," he said. "I think they should disarm immediately, what do you think, yes? Take their guns away, she doesn't want guns. Take their guns away, Let's see what happens to her." Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook responded, "This kind of talk should be out of bounds for a presidential candidate. ... Whether this is done to provoke protesters at a rally or casually or even as a joke, it is an unacceptable quality in anyone seeking the job of commander in chief."

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If you disarm the bodyguards how are they gonna catch her when she faints again?

#1 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2016-09-16 09:41 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

It's no wonder Donald attracts undereducated angry white rwingers, is it? He says any viciously stupid thing that comes into his head, too.

What gets me is that after all he's said, and unsaid the next day.... or sometimes at the same time, those people are fighting mainly for the of 1 percenters to get a 37 percent tax cut.

That's it. Everything else has been lies and come-ons.

#2 | Posted by Corky at 2016-09-16 10:49 PM | Reply

His writer is.that guy from mad magazine that "died" recently....FACt!

#3 | Posted by mutant at 2016-09-16 11:05 PM | Reply

I never thought I would live to long for the old days when a "Flip Flop" on a single issue could destroy a candidate's campaign.

Donald Trump is the Tangerine Tzar of Flippedyflopistan.

#4 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2016-09-16 11:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It sunk Kerry in 2004, apparently.

#5 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2016-09-16 11:16 PM | Reply

This small-handed doofus gasbag has set the bar so low, someone should ask Doktor Harold "Feel Good" Bornstein whether his patient suffers from Alice in Wonderland Syndrome, a.k.a. Lilliputian Hallucinations.

#6 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2016-09-17 06:14 AM | Reply

Trump was pointing out the irony in her having armed guards.

It doesn't seem to me he was actually suggesting anyone should harm her.

No story here.

#7 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2016-09-17 06:20 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Nice excuse, Bill.

It's completely offensive to use rhetoric that suggests the possibility of violence to your opponent. This shouldn't have to be explained to anyone in a country with a tragic history of presidential assassinations.

Trump is an emotionally stunted child who lashes out at people when he's under criticism. He can't help himself from making irresponsible and dangerous statements that incite violence.

#8 | Posted by rcade at 2016-09-17 08:21 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Rcade,

But it's ok when she does it?

Didn't she make some comment that was actually far more direct about assassination in 2008?

#9 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2016-09-17 08:29 AM | Reply

When exactly has Hillary ever suggested that people or LEO should not have guns?
Any limits on gun use that Clinton has proposed would not stop LEOs from having guns.
Trump is a lying sack of blubber.

#10 | Posted by bored at 2016-09-17 08:34 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I guess Trump has never heard of the old "glass houses" saying. I be sure, there are a lot of people who dislike Hillary. But I think there are a much greater number of people who viscerally despise Trump and every molecule of his existence. I do not think he would want to see the results of what would happen if HIS bodyguards were disarmed.

#11 | Posted by MarcNBarrett at 2016-09-17 08:40 AM | Reply

In 2008 when talking to a paper's editorial board in private, Hillary made this comment about staying in the race: "We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California."

Many people were offended and she apologized multiple times.

So you think Trump should apologize multiple times too, right?

#12 | Posted by rcade at 2016-09-17 08:47 AM | Reply

"Trump was pointing out the irony in her having armed guards."

The stupidity of that sentence is amazing. Is it intentional or accidental. Hillary Clinton has never said that there is no reason for Americans to have guns but she has asked that we make sure those who buy them are sane? Crazy huh? Anyone who disagrees is probably one of the crazies.

#13 | Posted by danni at 2016-09-17 09:23 AM | Reply

In 2008 when talking to a paper's editorial board in private, Hillary made this comment about staying in the race: "We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California."

What does that have to do with anything? I do remember Bobby Kennedy getting murdered but how is that relevant to anything other than access to guns?

#14 | Posted by danni at 2016-09-17 09:25 AM | Reply

Rcade,

Seems to me some people just look for reasons to be offended.

I don't see why he needs to.

In 2008 I didn't even hear about it. It wasn't until Hillary supporters made a big deal out of Trumps comments that her comments came to my attention.

So...no...I don't care if he does or not.

He was pointing out the duplicity surrounding guns.

Had nothing to do with Hillary where her comment in 2008 was directly about her opponent.

This doesn't even merit discussion.

#15 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2016-09-17 09:26 AM | Reply

Danni,

"What does that have to do with anything?"

That's sort of what I think too.

#16 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2016-09-17 09:29 AM | Reply

In 2008 I didn't even hear about it.

It was a big deal at the time.

Trump keeps making statements that incite violence or suggest the prospect of violence. He has no control over his mouth and no sense of responsibility.

Do you think those might be bad traits in a president?

#17 | Posted by rcade at 2016-09-17 09:52 AM | Reply

Rcade,

I decided 2 years ago I was voting republican next election regardless who was the nominee.

It could be there are other people who feel like that and is why Trump just can't seem to hurt himself??

Funny...I voted for Reagan both terms and it was his actions that turned me democrat.

I realized back then Reagan was taking America in a direction that made me uncomfortable so I voted straight democrat ticket until this election.

Why the change this time?

While I do support gay rights and even believe gays deserve the same protection for their relationships provided by Gay Marriage (although I would have preferred Civil Unions written to provide as such), I was appalled at the way the courts treated the businesses who preferred to not participate in Gay Marriages but were forced out of business even though they weren't discriminating against the people. They just didn't want to provide that particular product. It was at that time I realized the liberals need to be reined in. And now...transgender issues. Are you serious???

So...I decided I will vote republican next election and so I'm voting for Trump.

No...Trump does have some personality issues but I do like that he understands some of the dangers America is facing ahead and I believe liberals don't.

Liberals try to turn every little thing into a "morality issue"...but of course their version of morality.

However, some things just have nothing to do with morality and are just problems America needs to take seriously.

It just doesn't get any simpler (or complicated) than that for me.

Trump will get my vote.

#18 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2016-09-17 10:43 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

This bastion that we call "the media" once served us because it disclosed information that kept government and big business somewhat honest. Since it was consolidated into the hands of a few annointed ones, it has become a manipulative mouthpiece that gives us "news" intended only to advance their (and their cronies) political power and wealth. The journalists are now beholden to the group think of their masters, not to principles.

The good thing about this election is it has enlightened an enormous cross section of the country to the danger of our biased MSM propaganda machine. They recognize the lying media supports lying Hillary. A vote for Trump is giving the figurative middle finger to elites and a crooked political establishent that have made most Americans poorer and less secure.

#19 | Posted by Robson at 2016-09-17 10:47 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

#18 Well said. I felt the same way after Bush 2 and Repubs with his 9-11,Iraq War, debt, failure to make America better. So I had to vote against the Rs. Now after 8 years of Obama and his $20T in debt, while taking care of his money changers that broke our bank, and reneging on his hope and change, and his racist actions against most Americans, I'm going with Trump.

My conclusion is that we must get money out of politics. Americans 3 face enemies ....a manipulative lying consolidated media; a financier class that have become the owners of our country and politicians; and a corrupt political class that will sell out the citizens by inviting in outsiders that will deplete our safety net and be conditioned and made dependent to vote their way.

#20 | Posted by Robson at 2016-09-17 11:01 AM | Reply

#21 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

We would be glad to discuss it. Start a thread and see what happens. Trump and his stupid childish nonsense always seems to be sucking all the air and thread space out of any blog.

The problem is his supporters are apparently as childish and stupid as he is and they don't care to discuss any of Hilkary's visions. They would prefer to make things up and talk about that.

#22 | Posted by donnerboy at 2016-09-17 11:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Hilkary's = Hillary's

#23 | Posted by donnerboy at 2016-09-17 11:57 AM | Reply

His basket of deplorables must be jumping up and down in the backs of their lil --- trucks with the confederate flag of treason decals.

#24 | Posted by klifferd at 2016-09-17 12:22 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Trump = bully, bully, bully. He will enact death squads just like Philippine's leader Duterte for his opposition and for any reason he deems worthy.

#25 | Posted by mikeedge at 2016-09-17 12:48 PM | Reply

I decided 2 years ago I was voting republican next election regardless who was the nominee.

Perhaps you would make better choices if you waited to see who's running before you decided who to vote for.

This time around, your policy is making you vote for an incredibly unqualified cheddar chump who suffers 2 a.m. rage spirals on Twitter.

#26 | Posted by rcade at 2016-09-17 12:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I realized back then Reagan was taking America in a direction that made me uncomfortable so I voted straight democrat ticket until this election.

Doesn't sound like you understood Reagan, he raised taxes, granted amnesty and began the NAFTA talks.....

Sounds more like you went ALL in.....

#27 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2016-09-17 01:34 PM | Reply

First, Donald Trump is lying. Hillary has never proposed abolishing the 2nd Amendment or 'tak(img) away your 2nd Amendment rights' which is what Trump keeps falsely repeating to his audiences. As Danni noted, all that gun CONTROL advocates want is to establish sensible means to keep them from those who shouldn't have them. It doesn't do any good to ignore what many off-balance people think when they hear such statements, especially when they come from politicians trying to stoke existent fear and uncertainty in already cynical minds. We've had far too many political assassinations in this country and we don't need a presidential candidate even broaching the use of violence as a response to politics or politicians some citizens may disagree with.

As it regards Hillary invoking RFK's assassination in 2008, the reason she apologized was because the actual topic she was speaking to was her determination to not concede the nomination to Obama before all the primaries were finished. She invoked the assassination as a milepost to show that others hadn't conceded even though it was June. It was tone-deaf and unneeded to make her point. As a person of good conscious, she immediately apologized, especially to the Kennedy family, for bringing up the subject matter in the context she did. Some try to equate her statements with those who speak of '2nd Amendment solutions' as tacitly understandable reactions to political frustrations. They are nowhere close to the same.

#28 | Posted by tonyroma at 2016-09-17 03:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

As Danni noted, ... establish sensible means to keep them from those who shouldn't have them.

No need to repackage what she wrote to make it more palpable, what she wrote is the epitome of the gun control insanity--"make sure those who buy [guns] are sane?[sic]."

#29 | Posted by et_al at 2016-09-17 06:16 PM | Reply

It's no wonder Donald attracts undereducated angry white rwingers, is it? He says any viciously stupid thing that comes into his head, too.

What gets me is that after all he's said, and unsaid the next day.... or sometimes at the same time, those people are fighting mainly for the of 1 percenters to get a 37 percent tax cut.

That's it. Everything else has been lies and come-ons.

#2 | Posted by Corky

In the summer time a 911 response is over 1/2 hour where I live. hiltabeast gets protection but I am left to my knife throwing ability.

#30 | Posted by Sniper at 2016-09-17 06:37 PM | Reply

I never thought I would live to long for the old days when a "Flip Flop" on a single issue could destroy a candidate's campaign.

Donald Trump is the Tangerine Tzar of Flippedyflopistan.

#4 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour

What is the flip and flop?

#31 | Posted by Sniper at 2016-09-17 06:38 PM | Reply

It's completely offensive to use rhetoric that suggests the possibility of violence to your opponent.

#8 | Posted by rcade

You are putting a lot of words between his lines rca.

#32 | Posted by Sniper at 2016-09-17 06:39 PM | Reply

When exactly has Hillary ever suggested that people or LEO should not have guns?

#10 | Posted by bored

When she suggested we should follow the example set by Australia.

#33 | Posted by Sniper at 2016-09-17 06:40 PM | Reply

You lefties have real short memories.

freebeacon.com

#34 | Posted by Sniper at 2016-09-17 06:44 PM | Reply

Now look Hillary is the one that wants to disarm us. Why should she have to go by the same rules. She moves through city after city with armed guards. In many of those cities we are not even allowed to have a gun. Why cant she follow the same rules we are required to go by. Because the democrat party is above the law.

#35 | Posted by tmaster at 2016-09-17 07:32 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Because the democrat party Department of Homeland Security is above the law.

#36 | Posted by REDIAL at 2016-09-17 07:43 PM | Reply

I rated number 18 Newsworthy (several times) but yet it was never rated that way. Why not? We all know exactly how it works in the fraudulent MSM where they regularly twist reality and the discussion about everything and even the ability of viewers to comment unless it suits their owner's elitist agenda.

That this election is highly emotional is not in dispute, but hopefully that's not how it now works here. Tell me we still have free unbiased discussion and not only politicized discussion based only on political beliefs of site's owner?

#37 | Posted by Robson at 2016-09-17 07:56 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

The media lives and dies with every Trump utterance. They can't help themselves. I would actually respect them more if they just came out and said, "we want Hillary". Stop acting like you are serving the public by being objective reports of news and just admit what you want. The "news" is what Trump said or didn't say the previous day. No mention of immigration, no mention of economic policy, no mention of healthcare, no mention of terror...just, "Can you believe Trump said this".

The funny thing is, they chase everything Trump says. As a result, everyday is a new attack on Trump. Just read the Washington Post daily to see this. Since there are so many lines of attack on Trump, and they change daily, none of them ever stick. The next day will be something new. Ironically, average Americans just see the media piling on Trump. The issues they care about get no discussion. Then, Trump can accurately say that the media won't talk about the real issues...and he is 100% correct.

This issue of Hillary's bodyguards being disarmed is the same. It will have absolutely no legs with any voters, but the media will run with it for a few days. Trump absolutely owns the media. He plays them perfectly, and they can't don't even realize it is happening. Bombs go off in NYC, and the media is focusing on Trump. The disconnect is unreal.

#38 | Posted by CaseyJones at 2016-09-18 11:24 AM | Reply

Bombs go off in NYC, and the media is focusing on Trump.

You say that, and yet the lead story on every major news site is the bombing in NYC?

#39 | Posted by REDIAL at 2016-09-18 12:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"You say that, and yet the lead story on every major news site is the bombing in NYC?"

They had no choice, eventually you have to cover it. Did you watch the morning talk shows?? Barely a blip. This happened last night.

#40 | Posted by CaseyJones at 2016-09-18 12:26 PM | Reply

Why would you watch a "talk show?"

#41 | Posted by YAV at 2016-09-18 12:29 PM | Reply

what silliness...attacking intelligence of supporters when it's you folks who are looking foolish when you understand one very real FACT...

the idea of removing her armed security meaning he's wishing harm is a ludicrous leap...but the real story is many of you are talking about the risk of her without ARMED SECURITY....proving two points....

1) Armed security can keep people safe, which is our point to begin with...THANKS for the corroboration.

2)the bigger issue of taking guns away from the public so that only ( enter various descriptive words here ) have guns, as comments here and around the blogosphere CLEARLY point out, is directly related to this hyperbolic gibberish and confiscation.

#42 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2016-09-18 01:27 PM | Reply

Ok, I'll bite.
1)
If:
armed security keeps Clinton safe
and:
trump calls for removing her security
therefore:
Clinton would't be safe
then:
Trump's wishing harm to Clinton

2)
(descriptive words here):
Police. Law Enforcement. Soldiers. National Guard. Private security. Licensed holders. Registered owners. Trained owners. Certified owners. People that passed background checks. Gun dealers. Well Regulated Militias. etc.

Or by "public" you mean "terrorists, domestic abusers, and other violent criminals" which are the only 'groups' Clinton has identified?
I'm good with that. That'd fall under her (OMG!) call for commonsense reforms to keep guns away from those groups.

I mean, you do know that Clinton hasn't called for the public to be disarmed, right? You know she's never even hinted at something like that, right? That's something the NRA might push, but it's divorced from reality. You do know that, right?

#43 | Posted by YAV at 2016-09-18 01:50 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

you mean to say you haven't read her calling for that....

there will be one here in moments...

the people who want to take guns, either literally or "back door" are same people who will KEEP THIERS

"if you can't see the irony in a gun ban enforced by people with guns, then you fail to understand the reason for the 2nd amendment in the first place."

#44 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2016-09-18 04:00 PM | Reply

"I will get the NRA shut down for good if I become president. If we can ban handguns, we will do it".

Hillary Clinton
Des Moinse register interview
august 8, 2015

game-set-match...

#45 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2016-09-18 04:02 PM | Reply

"If the republicans agree to disarm, all is well and good. If they refuse, we will disarm them ourselves."

Elizabeth Warren

#46 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2016-09-18 04:05 PM | Reply

I mean, you do know that Clinton hasn't called for the public to be disarmed, right? You know she's never even hinted at something like that, right? That's something the NRA might push, but it's divorced from reality. You do know that, right?

#43 | Posted by YAV at 201

sorry I meant to repost your comment BEFORE I showed you exactly where she "never even hinted at something like that".....

If we sit back and believe lying bags like hillary, the day before guns are banned OR made impossible to own, that will be too late...you can believe anything you want from the lady who dodged sniper fire in bosnia, but I"m not...and I and others will be ready to prevent the end of that amendment...

#47 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2016-09-18 04:11 PM | Reply

PLUS YAV...

you're intelligent....do you want me to get the quote or a clip of chelsea telling us that now that scalia was gone, her mother could enact gun control?

No, I"m sure you remember that....even that is a "HINT"....

#48 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2016-09-18 04:12 PM | Reply

here's where you MIGHT say gun control isn't confiscation....and IF that's a point you'd like to make, I get it..under normal circumstances...but we're talking about liberal fascists..( oxymoron ) and I am not going to be party to waiting until it's too late to do whatever's possible to prevent people who WILL ALWAYS OWN GUNS...from even trying to take mine..

#49 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2016-09-18 04:16 PM | Reply

DRAT,,,sorry but you confused number one....or it wasn't clear..

WE have repeatedly said removing guns as a means of personal safety would create a less safe environment.

.okay, everyone is screaming that trump wants her bodyguards disarmed because that means he want her dead or harmed..I've read that all over the place.

.well...that's the point we've been making but never better than the left does on this issue..

take guns from her security and she DOES have a better chance of being harmed....and her security is in NO WAY more important than anyone else who also has every right to armed protection as she does...
so again...thanks to ALL HERE for you help and support.....

#50 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2016-09-18 04:23 PM | Reply

Doesn't sound like you understood Reagan, he raised taxes, granted amnesty and began the NAFTA talks.....

Sounds more like you went ALL in.....

#27 | Posted by AndreaMackris

Taxes were lower when he left office than when he took office. is that your definition of raising?

#51 | Posted by Sniper at 2016-09-18 06:29 PM | Reply

I mean, you do know that Clinton hasn't called for the public to be disarmed, right?

#43 | Posted by YAV

You really didn't read my link on that subject did you, or can't you read?

#52 | Posted by Sniper at 2016-09-18 06:31 PM | Reply

even though they weren't discriminating against the people. They just didn't want to provide that particular product.

Sure. And lunch counters simply didn't want to provide their lunch product to blacks.
It's like you don't know what civil rights are.
Which is odd for a gay man.

#53 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-09-18 06:32 PM | Reply

here's where you MIGHT say gun control isn't confiscation....

#49 | Posted by afkabl2

Where I am from gun control is being able to hit what you are shooting at. I am afraid that isn't what hiltabeast meant.

#54 | Posted by Sniper at 2016-09-18 06:34 PM | Reply

Where I am from, which is Newtown, Connecticut, gun control is being able to hit the toddler you are shooting at.

#55 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-09-18 06:40 PM | Reply

"I will get the NRA shut down for good if I become president. If we can ban handguns, we will do it".
Hillary Clinton
Des Moinse register interview
august 8, 2015
game-set-match...

#45 | POSTED BY AFKABL2 AT 2016-09-18 04:02 PM | FLAG:

If by "game-set-match" you mean I got it right and you bought into another lie, then yes:

www.snopes.com

#56 | Posted by YAV at 2016-09-18 10:53 PM | Reply

Just another chapter in aphlakke's famous book, "Gullible's Travels".

#57 | Posted by REDIAL at 2016-09-19 12:33 AM | Reply

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