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Friday, September 16, 2016

Florida's Orange County Public Schools announced this week that their students must have parental permission if they want to kneel during the national anthem at football games. District officials told WSBTV that they were following state law regarding the pledge of allegiance, a strict and controversial statute that requires unadulterated participation in patriotic gestures. Other school districts are punishing students who don't follow state law.

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At least no child will lose an endorsement deal.

#1 | Posted by cookfish at 2016-09-16 08:48 PM | Reply

Funny how republicans are the FREEDOM! party yet they're the ones who try to make everyone think and act the same.

What kind of authoritarian requires "unadulterated participation in patriotic gestures?" North Koreans?

#2 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2016-09-16 09:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 9

Sometimes I wish this would really happen:

A Well Known American Patriot's Solution for Florida

#3 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2016-09-16 09:31 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Blatantly unconstitutional.

Also what's even the point of this?

#4 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-09-16 09:39 PM | Reply

How is this not idolatry?

#5 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2016-09-16 10:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

That's OK. 250 million gallons of radioactive water containing phosphogypsum waste has escaped from a fertilizer plant and is presently poisoning Florida's freshwater aquifer. This is what is known, in some circles, as "God's retribution"

#6 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2016-09-16 10:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Governments should not mandate patriotism. Governments earn patriotism. Who mandated patriotism? The Germans in the 1930s."

Jesse Ventura - Facebook

I have to agree.

#7 | Posted by bat4255 at 2016-09-16 10:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

COMPLETELY against the Constitution. I would LOVE to be the lawyer that would take that on.

#8 | Posted by e1g1 at 2016-09-16 11:12 PM | Reply

We should go back to the good old days

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#10 | Posted by truthhurts at 2016-09-17 01:18 AM | Reply

In Germany during the Nazi time before the war American Tourists were warned they could be attacked and beaten up for not giving the Nazi Salute when solders passed or other patriotic events passed on the street.

#11 | Posted by THomewood at 2016-09-17 06:04 AM | Reply

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Did they sing it in Spanish so that the majority of students could follow along?

#12 | Posted by visitor_ at 2016-09-17 08:14 AM | Reply

I thank God every day that I grew up in the Patriotic 50's. ---- like this was unheard of.

#13 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2016-09-17 09:00 AM | Reply

Nothing celebrates our Constitution like forcing children to stand for the National Anthem and punishing the ones who resist.

#14 | Posted by rcade at 2016-09-17 09:15 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

This just makes kneeling during the anthem more significant. These a******s have created an opportunity for the "kneelers" to get national attention and legal protection. Ignorant doofuses act to make their ignorance the real story here.

#15 | Posted by danni at 2016-09-17 09:30 AM | Reply

Each district school board may adopt rules to require, in all of the schools of the district, programs of a patriotic nature to encourage greater respect for the government of the United States and its national anthem and flag...

Dear State of Florida,
"Programs of patriotic nature" like forcing people to stand or salute do not "encourage greater respect for the government of the United States and its national anthem and flag."

Instead those programs properly and correctly encourage disrespect and abhorrence for the government that seeks to indoctrinate and force compliance.

#16 | Posted by YAV at 2016-09-17 09:48 AM | Reply

Was there not a SCOTUS decision in the 1940's that pretty much stopped compulsory participation?

#17 | Posted by SLBronkowitz at 2016-09-17 09:54 AM | Reply

Good for Florida! How many disabled military veterans over the years had lost their physical ability to ever stand and/or salute again due to having lost limbs in wars to protect unpatriotic punks such as these and their right to protest.

#18 | Posted by CalifChris at 2016-09-17 10:51 AM | Reply

#18 - that's a spoof, right?

#19 | Posted by YAV at 2016-09-17 11:17 AM | Reply

Nope :)

#20 | Posted by CalifChris at 2016-09-17 11:30 AM | Reply

Ok...
Hmm.

I mean all those lost limbs to protect freedom of speech, manifested through political legislation of compulsory speech (action) with penalties for non-compliance? Seems to me to be a horrid memorial to those disabled military veterans that served to protect that right you cited. This is the state controlled demolition of what you say they fought for.

#21 | Posted by YAV at 2016-09-17 11:36 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

We are approaching a point where we won't have the national anthem ever played, as it causes to much divisiveness.

It would appear that is the end goal

#22 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2016-09-17 11:49 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Nope :)

#20 | POSTED BY CALIFCHRIS

(The false use of) Patriotism is the refuge of scoundrels.

#23 | Posted by donnerboy at 2016-09-17 12:01 PM | Reply

It would appear that is the end goal

Those rascally republicans! Of course! The end game, by forcing compliance through law, is to incite a reaction where the only option is to cease playing the national anthem! How clever of them, all the while they wrap themselves in the flag and call the Democrats "unpatriotic."

#24 | Posted by YAV at 2016-09-17 12:04 PM | Reply

Dear State of Florida...

Perhaps you should broaden your target audience. Pledge of Allegiance statutes, state by state

Of the 53 states and territories in this survey (the 50 states plus Puerto Rico, the District of Columbia and the Virgin Islands), 43 require public school students to recite the Pledge of Allegiance. Only one state, Wisconsin, also requires private-school students to do so.
See also this part of the FL statute, "Upon written request by his or her parent, the student must be excused from reciting the [pledge of allegiance], including standing and placing the right hand over his or her heart."

#25 | Posted by et_al at 2016-09-17 01:38 PM | Reply

Good for Florida!

Forcing children to show respect to an anthem, pledge or flag isn't respect at all. You're in favor of teaching children blind obedience. That's an idea straight out of places like North Korea.

#26 | Posted by rcade at 2016-09-17 01:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#26

I'm not seeing the force, where are you seeing it?

#27 | Posted by et_al at 2016-09-17 02:16 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

LOL

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-09-17 02:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'm not seeing the force, where are you seeing it?

The headline. The story. CalifChris agreeing with Florida's actions. Take your pick.

#29 | Posted by rcade at 2016-09-17 02:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

In Florida, a child seeking an abortion will result in parental notification, but a child seeking to remain seated during the Pledge needs parental consent.

Apparently the right-wing legislature has decided the Pledge is the more important family values issue.

#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-09-17 02:33 PM | Reply

So it's anecdotal. Nothing to do with what the statutes actually say, none of which force anyone.

#31 | Posted by et_al at 2016-09-17 03:05 PM | Reply

This is the state controlled demolition of what you say they fought for.

#21 | Posted by YAV

You're thinking too much, Yav.

"Murica!" is all you need to know.

#33 | Posted by jpw at 2016-09-17 03:13 PM | Reply

I thank God every day that I grew up in the Patriotic 50's. ---- like this was unheard of.

#13 | Posted by phesterOBoyle

Because there weren't cell phone cameras to film the cops doing what they do.

#34 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2016-09-17 03:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#33 - it would be easier to accept if I just pithed myself.

#35 | Posted by YAV at 2016-09-17 03:22 PM | Reply

Good for Florida! How many disabled military veterans over the years had lost their physical ability to ever stand and/or salute again due to having lost limbs in wars to protect unpatriotic punks such as these and their right to protest.

#18 | Posted by CalifChris at 2016-09-17 10:51 AM

What do you think those military people fought for? As a Trump supporter, I guess you haven't a clue, so I'll give you the answer and see if you can remember. Those military people fought and died for freedom. They fought for the right to stand or sit down during the national anthem. They fought for the right to march in the streets to tell the government women need the right to vote. They fought for the freedom mentioned in the Constitution. People like you vote against what they fought and died for, and your vote for Trump is against everything America stands for

#36 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2016-09-17 05:29 PM | Reply

Actually recently they've been fighting for imperialism

#37 | Posted by truthhurts at 2016-09-17 05:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

A thousand little Eichmanns, with nice tans.

#38 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-09-18 03:04 AM | Reply

I'm not seeing the force, where are you seeing it?
#27 | POSTED BY ET_AL AT 2016-09-17 02:16 PM

Life creates it, makes it grow. Its energy surrounds us and binds us. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter. You must feel the Force around you...here, between you, me, the tree, the rock, everywhere. ☺

#39 | Posted by madscientist at 2016-09-18 08:26 AM | Reply

"Good for Florida! How many disabled military veterans over the years had lost their physical ability to ever stand and/or salute again due to having lost limbs in wars to protect unpatriotic punks such as these and their right to protest."

and which of the wars fought in my lifetime were for freedom or to actually defend this country? Name one. You can't because none were.

#40 | Posted by danni at 2016-09-18 10:10 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Military basic training forces a behavior upon recruits like respect or standing or saluting. It is called discipline. The liberal elites don't comprehend that respect unless it is to muzzle free speech through their gods of political correctness. There is huge duplicity between typically wealthy intolerant liberals and the common sense of average folks that understand the difference between propaganda and that which has worked for society for hundreds of years.

#41 | Posted by Robson at 2016-09-18 08:16 PM | Reply

You must feel the Force around you...here, between you, me, the tree, the rock, everywhere. ☺

#39 | Posted by madscientist.

I want some of whatever it is you're smokin^ :)

#42 | Posted by CalifChris at 2016-09-18 08:19 PM | Reply

Military basic training forces behavior.
And that's why it's incompatible with freedom.

Why do you hate Freedom, Robson?

#43 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-09-18 08:27 PM | Reply

Danni -- saw your post but still am trying to figure out typing on Windows 10. I sure miss my Windows xp. Will get back to you later on with my answer okay?

#44 | Posted by CalifChris at 2016-09-18 08:34 PM | Reply

Military basic training forces behavior.
And that's why it's incompatible with freedom.

But somehow the IRS is compatible with freedom?

#45 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2016-09-18 09:08 PM | Reply

Spekaing of taxes...

On "at least three dozen" occasions the New York State Department of Taxation and Finance has obtained tax liens against Trump properties for nonpayment of taxes. en.wikipedia.org

#46 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-09-18 09:15 PM | Reply

Military basic training forces a behavior upon recruits like respect or standing or saluting. It is called discipline.

#41 | Posted by Robson

It's called brainwashing. Stop thinking for yourself and just do what you're told.

#47 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2016-09-19 12:03 PM | Reply

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