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Friday, September 16, 2016

[Bernie] Sanders continued making the pitch he's been honing since he returned to the campaign trail: This isn't a year to vote third party. Mentioning [Hillary] Clinton's name sparingly, Sanders told several hundred voters -- many still wearing gear from the Democratic primary -- that their votes could stop the election of a Republican "who thinks climate change is a hoax." Sanders, who was the most prominent independent in American politics even before his run, is gradually embracing a role as a third-party critic, a spoiler of the spoilers. As Democrats contemplate ways to tamp down a protest vote for Johnson, or for the Green Party's Jill Stein, Sanders is already arguing that anyone who voted for him would set the movement back by voting against Clinton.

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"This is not the time for a protest vote, in terms of a presidential campaign," Sanders said. "I ran as a third-party candidate. I'm the longest-serving independent in the history of the United States Congress.

"I know more about third-party politics than anyone else in the Congress, okay? And if people want to run as third-party candidates, God bless them! Run for Congress. Run for governor. Run for state legislature.

"When we're talking about president of the United States, in my own personal view, this is not time for a protest vote. This is time to elect Hillary Clinton and then work after the election to mobilize millions of people to make sure she can be the most progressive president she can be."

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Bernie is spot on again. And again and again.

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2016-09-16 04:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

To protest, one would not vote. Which is not participating.

Voting for a candidate that appears on a ballot is practicing your constitutional right.

#2 | Posted by Prolix247 at 2016-09-16 04:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Bernie is spot on again. And again and again.

#1 | POSTED BY CORKY

Funny, Corky didn't think Sanders was right about anything 3 months ago.

It will never be time for a protest vote. Corky will never vote anything but straight party line blue.

#3 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2016-09-16 04:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Bernie is spot on again. And again and again.

Except when he's running against Hillary.

Then he's a socialist, racist, and misogynist. Spreading unicorn fart dreams. With no hope of winning.

Funny how Sanders is suddenly Hillary's only hope of getting enough votes to win.

What happened to those amazing 3 million votes you HillBots crow about?

Isn't that enough for her to win the general?

#4 | Posted by ClownShack at 2016-09-16 04:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Jeezus, if Bernie thought this way he should've run in the Democratic primaries.
~ Sheepasullytrumpkins

#5 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2016-09-16 04:44 PM | Reply

#4

So, no comment on Bernie's logic?

- Corky didn't think Sanders was right about anything 3 months ago.

I thought he was right about a lot of things, and I said so. He just was not going to be the nominee.

-never vote anything but straight party line blue.

Why would any left-leaning person ever vote for the GOP that hasn't had a better set of policies nor a better candidate for President in a lifetime?

If there is only one party proposing legit policy over many decades, how is it being a partisan hack to vote for that party?

#6 | Posted by Corky at 2016-09-16 04:47 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I'm amazed Hillary would want a person her supporters labeled a racist and a misogynist campaigning for her.

#7 | Posted by ClownShack at 2016-09-16 04:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

no comment on Bernie's logic?

Bernie's logic is sound.

He made a promise and he's sticking to it.

Even after he was slandered by team HillBot.

#8 | Posted by ClownShack at 2016-09-16 04:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

- her supporters labeled a racist and a misogynist

Name them.

btw, no comment on what Bernie said today?

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2016-09-16 04:52 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

- He made a promise and he's sticking to it.

His did and he is because that is what he believes... or do you think he's lying now?

#10 | Posted by Corky at 2016-09-16 04:53 PM | Reply

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her supporters labeled a racist and a misogynist

Doc_Sarvis.

Or have you forgotten his daily threads slandering Sanders?

I'll assume your selective memory prohibits you from remembering.

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2016-09-16 04:55 PM | Reply

OK, I'll give you Doc.... lmao.

It's not like Bernie was portrayed that way by myself or any other libs here. Doc was tough on Bernie, but he's never claimed to be a dyed in the wool lib.

But the thread is not about the primary, it's about Bernie's call on his supporters NOW to support what his campaign stood for and not to help Trump by voting 3rd party as a protest.

#12 | Posted by Corky at 2016-09-16 04:59 PM | Reply

Perhaps Bernie made such a promise, but his supporters did not. It's a shame the DNC never thought independent voters were particularly important.

#13 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2016-09-16 05:00 PM | Reply

#13 |

Like Bernie is doing this against his will because he made a promise.

He is saying what he thinks, which he always had. And what he says makes good sense.

#14 | Posted by Corky at 2016-09-16 05:02 PM | Reply

[He] did and he is because that is what he believes... or do you think he's lying now?
#10 | POSTED BY CORKY AT 2016-09-16 04:53 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

I believe he's doing what he agreed to. I respect that. And he probably does believe Hillary to be the lesser of the two evils.

But I'm not voting for the lesser of the two evils. I'm voting for the candidate I feel is the best choice available.

Funny right? Voting for someone, rather than voting against someone else.

#15 | Posted by ClownShack at 2016-09-16 05:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

always has

#16 | Posted by Corky at 2016-09-16 05:03 PM | Reply

-I'm voting for the candidate I feel is the best choice available.

You are voting for someone who has no chance to win. And depending where you are, you could be helping to elect Donald Trump. If not, go for it. If you are, then that's self-defeating behaviour.

#17 | Posted by Corky at 2016-09-16 05:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If you are, then that's self-defeating behaviour.
#17 | POSTED BY CORKY

Aaaaaaaaand what's wrong with that?!!!!!

#18 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2016-09-16 05:08 PM | Reply

"And depending where you are, you could be helping to elect Donald Trump"

Or Hillary.

#19 | Posted by eberly at 2016-09-16 05:15 PM | Reply

Tens of millions in this country don't vote at all. Talk about self-defeating behavior!

Other tens of millions continue to vote for the duopoly plutocrats. Talk about even MORE self-defeating behavior!

This country has been engaged in self-defeating behavior for decades. It's why we continue to fall behind on so many issues.

#20 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2016-09-16 05:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#20

Excellent point.

Instead of bitching at people who show up on election day, why don't you focus your vitriol towards folks who don't vote at all?

#21 | Posted by eberly at 2016-09-16 05:22 PM | Reply

= vitriol

Drama Queen Officially In The House.

#22 | Posted by Corky at 2016-09-16 08:32 PM | Reply

Bernie's right. He's never been right before...but he is now.

#23 | Posted by madbomber at 2016-09-16 09:08 PM | Reply

Aaaaaaaaand what's wrong with that?!!!!

#18 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11

9/11, theIraq clusterfk and the Great Recession come to mind.

And Bush was better than Played'oh Putin would be.

#24 | Posted by northguy3 at 2016-09-16 09:40 PM | Reply

Bernie isn't doing this because he made a promise and now feels he has to stand by his word. He is doing this because, as he said in another interview, he doesn't want his children and grandchildren to live under a Trump presidency.

#25 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2016-09-16 10:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

2000 is about to repeat itself, sans recount.

#26 | Posted by e1g1 at 2016-09-16 11:16 PM | Reply

Bernie on Trump, Clinton, the issues in this election and his love for the young people who came to his rallies (on All In With Chris Hayes):

www.msnbc.com

#27 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2016-09-16 11:43 PM | Reply

Bernie's right. This isn't the time for a protest vote. This is the time to get behind a candidate with integrity, values, honesty, and isn't owned by the 1%. It's time for liberals to get out and vote for Jill Stein.

A real progressive. Who's looking out for the average American and the poor.

Vote Jill for first female president in US history!

#28 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2016-09-17 01:08 AM | Reply

Ross perot effect initiatè.

20 percent turnout was respectAble.and your vote went against bush.* Lol

*it went to.what you selected - perot. - one outta five

FAGct

#29 | Posted by mutant at 2016-09-17 02:47 AM | Reply

We now know that the DNC rigged the primary. Bernie never had chance. We also know that the Clintons support the end welfare as we knew it, the NAFTA "free trade" scam, the incarceration of multitudes of poor people of color, "humanitarian" bombing of Yugoslavia to achieve regime change, deregulation of the financial system, privatization of social security, etc.

The lesser-of-two-evils defense dictates that we vote for Clinton, despite all her admittedly bad stuff, for fear that a Trump presidency would dismantle public health care, attack the unions, and stack the Supreme Court to the right.

As long as Hillary knows that lesser-of-two-evils adherents will still vote for her, she'll continue feinting to the left and moving to the right. Unions will still be targeted, because Clinton knows Wall Street will abandon her if she doesn't deliver low wages and high profits.

In four years, with Hillary at the helm, another recession will be in full swing. The lesser evil strategy facilitates a greater evil.

#30 | Posted by nutcase at 2016-09-17 07:53 AM | Reply

SHEEPLESHISM

You were all in for Bernie.

Don't pretend you aren't voting for Stein as a protest vote.

#31 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2016-09-17 07:00 PM | Reply

What's a protest vote? I'm voting FOR the one person on the ballot that best represents my political views and represents who I believe would best fulfill the office of president.

Why would I vote for anyone else?

#32 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2016-09-17 07:23 PM | Reply

Democrats think any vote not for Hillary is a protest vote.

Maybe they should re-evaluate their marketing strategy.

#33 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2016-09-18 09:23 AM | Reply

#17 "You are voting for someone who has no chance to win. And depending where you are, you could be helping to elect Donald Trump."

*smacks you with a fish*

#34 | Posted by sentinel at 2016-09-18 01:18 PM | Reply

What's age got to do with it? Bernie is older than Hillary.

#36 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2016-09-18 05:30 PM | Reply

Gary Johnson: 63 years

Jill Stein: 66 years

Hillary Clinton: 68 years

Donald Trump: 70 years

Bernie Sanders: 75 years

#37 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2016-09-18 05:33 PM | Reply

It's not the years, it's the weight.
I'm yuuge.
~ Don the Fatty

#38 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2016-09-18 05:45 PM | Reply

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