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Thursday, September 15, 2016

Donald Trump said in an interview in Ohio Thursday that he remains unwilling to say that President Barack Obama is born in the United States. Asked whether he believes Obama was born in Hawaii, Trump replied, "I'll answer that question at the right time. I just don't want to answer it yet. ... I don't talk about it anymore." Trump's role leading the birther movement -- an effort to delegitimize the country's first black president by demanding he prove his U.S. citizenship and college grades -- is one of the reasons that 44% of the U.S. believe Trump is racist, according to a recent Suffolk poll.

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He doesn't want to alienate his racist voters.

#1 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2016-09-15 08:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

#1 Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner! He doesn't want to upset his basketful of deplorables.

#2 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2016-09-15 09:14 PM | Reply

Since it was Hillarys people that started it (confirmed via emails)........

#3 | Posted by aescal at 2016-09-15 09:38 PM | Reply

#3 - That's going to be the punchline, right before the election.

Hillary will not be able to respond.

#4 | Posted by Prolix247 at 2016-09-15 10:09 PM | Reply

The left uses racism as a tool to divide us. They can't exist without playing PC and race card and calling some racists. We need a leader that will focus on unity and the country first, not individual tribes or demographics within the country.

#5 | Posted by Robson at 2016-09-15 10:23 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Hillary and her campaign never said anything about Obama not being American. Nobody forced Trump to push an obvious myth.

It has served Don the Con very well. Thanks to millions of idiots, it helped get him the candidacy. Who knew so many people would base their political ideology on their morning spam email hoaxes?

Trump never believed it. But now Mr. "says whatever he wants" doesn't have the guts to say whatever he wants. If he says he does, he'll look more like the fool he is. If he says he doesn't, he'll upset his basket of deplorables.

#6 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2016-09-15 10:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Time for Hillary to start using Trump's line: I don't talk about that anymore.

#7 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2016-09-15 10:30 PM | Reply

#6 - exactly. The lie of Hillary's campaign pushing birtherism has been researched to death and found to be completely false. I hope the Trump campaign idiots try that line. That will be a glorious a** handing they'll get.

On subject, Trump can't be honest about his lie. His lie now owns him.

#8 | Posted by YAV at 2016-09-15 10:33 PM | Reply

"basket of deplorables" still works and still gets a chuckle!

#9 | Posted by YAV at 2016-09-15 10:34 PM | Reply

Yes, Bigotry always unifies Bigots.

Hillary 2016!
Bigotry IS American...

#10 | Posted by Prolix247 at 2016-09-15 10:46 PM | Reply

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Voldemort appreciates your support, Prolix.
He was so misunderstood.

#11 | Posted by YAV at 2016-09-15 10:49 PM | Reply

I wonder what Giuliani and Pence think about Trump staying mum on this topic after they went out and passionately assured us Trump is no longer a birther.

#12 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2016-09-15 11:08 PM | Reply

#6

Her campaign did back in 2007

www.theatlantic.com

Penn Memo

"What could hold him (Obama) back?

..

Lack of American roots

..

.."

#13 | Posted by aescal at 2016-09-15 11:42 PM | Reply

Trump campaign: Obama born in the US

Washington (CNN)Donald Trump's campaign on Thursday said he believes President Barack Obama was born in the US, a major reversal from a line of attack Trump launched five years ago.

The announcement late Thursday night is an attempt by Trump's campaign to take the controversial issue -- which helped propel him to political prominence -- off the table ahead of the first presidential debate later this month.

But Trump himself has not flatly said Obama was born in Hawaii.

www.cnn.com

Hilarious. Soon to be President for Life (like Putin!) Trump has his Ministry of Propaganda say what he himself still will not say.

#14 | Posted by Corky at 2016-09-16 12:09 AM | Reply

Hillary and her campaign never said anything about Obama not being American.

What? LOL...

www.youtube.com

Just hours after the Washington Post published an interview with Donald Trump in which he refused to acknowledge that President Barack Obama was born in the United States, the Trump campaign released a statement saying that the Republican presidential candidate "believes" Obama was born in the U.S. "Having successfully obtained President Obama's birth certificate when others could not, Mr. Trump believes that President Obama was born in the United States,"

Nice try Corky...

#15 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2016-09-16 12:27 AM | Reply

Lack of American roots

It's true, not all blacks came here in chains.

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-09-16 02:51 AM | Reply

#15

Donald J.Trump@realDonaldJTrump

Don't believe the biased and phony media quoting people who work for my campaign. The only quote that matters is a quote from me!

5:33 PM - 28 May 2016
6,979 6,979 Retweets 19,844 19,844 likes

www.huffingtonpost.com


Who to believe, Mackris or Trump? Hell of a decision, no?

#17 | Posted by tonyroma at 2016-09-16 04:28 AM | Reply

Her campaign did back in 2007
www.theatlantic.com
Penn Memo
"What could hold him (Obama) back?
..
Lack of American roots

Clearly you didn't read the memo. Nothing in it about not being born in the US (Hawaii), but some reference to him being raised in Indonesia. I'll assume you posted that out of ignorance, or because the bright shiny "Lack of American roots" tag line was too good to pass up. You posted it not realizing all you've done is support what I said.

Here:
www.politifact.com

And Trump continues to push the lie, only now he's moved to being tacit.

#18 | Posted by YAV at 2016-09-16 06:24 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Two presidential campaigns and hundreds of millions spent, resulting in NO evidence of Obama's foreign birth and The Don still believes what he believes? Trump is huffing too much of the glue holding down his comb-over...

#19 | Posted by catdog at 2016-09-16 08:44 AM | Reply

"Penn Memo
"What could hold him (Obama) back?"

Every idea he expressed turned out to be wrong and Hillary isn't responsible for his ideas.

#20 | Posted by danni at 2016-09-16 08:46 AM | Reply

"Just hours after the Washington Post published an interview with Donald Trump in which he refused to acknowledge that President Barack Obama was born in the United States, the Trump campaign released a statement saying that the Republican presidential candidate "believes" Obama was born in the U.S. "Having finally understood that some voters will be turned off by a birther, Mr. Trump believes that President Obama was born in the United States,"

FTFY

Donald Trump doesn't believe anything, he says whatever he thinks his audience wants to hear.

#21 | Posted by danni at 2016-09-16 08:51 AM | Reply

Everybody ready for Trump's big announcement on this? He's been hawking it. This man is such a huckster and a liar.

#22 | Posted by YAV at 2016-09-16 09:14 AM | Reply

I love the desperate attempt to pin birtherism on Hillary. Trump ran a public campaign for months claiming President Obama was not born in the United States, telling people he sent investigators to Hawaii, the whole nine yards. When the long-form birth certificate was released, further proving the idiocy of his campaign, Trump just doubled down and demanded college records.

Now we're supposed to pretend that it was Hillary's idea for Trump to go full racist? Good luck selling that to anybody outside the Trump purple kool-aid club.

#23 | Posted by rcade at 2016-09-16 09:26 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Yawn...this will have zero effect on any polling. Trump has been skewered daily on MSNBC/CNN/NY Times/Washington Post for 15 months, and it doesn't matter. People don't support Trump because he says controversial or racist things, they support Trump because they are sick of being told how & what to think by the mainstream media, big business, university types...the "elite". These elites despise the average electrician or mechanic in St. Louis, Missouri, or Nashville TN. They despise folks who are patriotic. You only need to read these boards to understand the disdain that the liberal wing of the Democratic party has for average Americans. Trump gets this. The media doesn't. The Dems used to own labor. Now they hate them for being uneducated dolts. The hate actually flows from the liberal side, but they are just too engulfed to even see it.

The trust level of the media is at an all time low of 32%(read below). Unless Trump murders someone on live TV, these daily attacks will be meaningless. He was absolutely correct when he made that statement. It only emboldens those who support him. With turnout being the dominant factor, the media only fuels the motivation for Trump voters because they see these daily attacks. They understand that big business, big media and politics are all joined at the hip. it is a rigged game. 32 % of people trust the media. Those that do are already voting Democrat.

www.gallup.com

#24 | Posted by CaseyJones at 2016-09-16 09:43 AM | Reply

They despise folks who are patriotic. You only need to read these boards to understand the disdain that the liberal wing of the Democratic party has for average Americans.

Nice myth you're peddling there. Anybody who watched the Democratic National Convention knows that Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party are proudly patriotic. Democrats have done far more for the middle and working class people of American than Republicans. Democrats defend unions. Republicans destroy them. Democrats fight for a livable wage. Republicans keep wages down. Democrats brought health care to millions. Republicans vow to take it away.

Trump isn't going to help working people. He's screwed them over throughout his career. Look at what he does to cabinet makers and other contractors on his projects. He makes a deal to pay them one amount, then refuses to do it and tells them to accept pennies on the dollar or be stuck in litigation for years. He's driven many of them completely out of business.

Trump only cares about helping Trump.

You sound like Spiro Agnew railing against "America-hating hippies" on the left. The 1970s were four decades ago. Time to update your worldview.

#25 | Posted by rcade at 2016-09-16 10:36 AM | Reply

"You only need to read these boards to understand the disdain that the liberal wing of the Democratic party has for average Americans"

well said.

I think elected Dems at the Federal level are better people than folks here on the retort give them credit for. IOW, there is a disdain from right leaning folks here towards democrats in DC with a "D" after their name and that's misplaced disdain much of the time. Of course, left wing folks here waste a lot of energy with their "disdain" for anybody with a "R" after their name.

But you're right.....the left leaning folks here on the retort are very intolerant and arrogant towards average Americans. Not all of them...but many of them. It's all about who they vote for and nothing else.

#26 | Posted by eberly at 2016-09-16 10:45 AM | Reply

"You sound like Spiro Agnew railing against "America-hating hippies" on the left. The 1970s were four decades ago. Time to update your worldview.
#25 | POSTED BY RCADE "

Those "hippies" got older and are in the government, the media, and the higher education system now... And, the bad part about it is that they still believe the lies from the '60s and '70s, except they've made more up! You can't see it because you agree with the false narrative that America is evil or that most Americans before 1970 was evil.

#27 | Posted by LastAmerican at 2016-09-16 11:29 AM | Reply

Trump's launched right into his lying. Right off the bat.
And then he said "Obama was born in America and I made him show his birth certificate" and left the podium.

#28 | Posted by YAV at 2016-09-16 11:34 AM | Reply

Shortest time I've ever seen Trump at a podium.
What was that - 60 seconds? Maybe?
And he STILL couldn't do it without lying!
This guy is so frikken hilariously awful!

#29 | Posted by YAV at 2016-09-16 11:35 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Mark Halpern:
He said 3 things, and the first two were lies.

#30 | Posted by YAV at 2016-09-16 11:36 AM | Reply

"Trump's launched right into his lying. Right off the bat.
And then he said "Obama was born in America and I made him show his birth certificate" and left the podium.
#28 | POSTED BY YAV"

Simple. The media attention was swinging over to Hilary.

I just turned on CNN and flipped through to FOX and MSNBC. The Left are red-faced flustered by this! huffing a puffing and saying outrageous things like "bigoted"!

Yes, the word "bigoted" is out there and being discussed on national television.

This is a victory for Trump mostly because of the emotional reaction from the Left.

#31 | Posted by LastAmerican at 2016-09-16 12:03 PM | Reply

"Donald Trump finally acknowledged Friday that "President Barack Obama was born in the United States," reversing himself on the issue that propelled him into national politics five years ago."

ahahahahahhaahahahahahahahahahhaahhahahahahahahahahah

He probably prefaced it by saying "As I've always believed..."

This man is a JOKE.

#32 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2016-09-16 12:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This is a victory for Trump mostly because of the emotional reaction from the Left.

#31 | Posted by LastAmerican

Of course it is.

Just like NOT building a wall will somehow be a trump victory.

#33 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2016-09-16 12:08 PM | Reply

Not actually self-financing his campaign and giving the 1 percent a 37 percent tax cut, you know, to help the little guy, is also a Trump victory.

#34 | Posted by Corky at 2016-09-16 12:10 PM | Reply

This is a victory for Trump mostly because of the emotional reaction from the Left.

Trump shows himself to be a complete and utter fake on the birther issue and you're declaring victory. He could take a dump on Pennsylvania Avenue and you'd be telling everybody it was TCBY.

#35 | Posted by rcade at 2016-09-16 12:31 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Why not ask the same question of Hillary as it was her campaign in '08 that originally raised the question - or did you forget?

"The paper trail

The allegation about Obama's birthplace tracks back to the bruising 2008 Democratic primary between Obama and Clinton. According to a Telegraph article, as early as April 2008, a Clinton supporter passed around an email that questioned where Obama was born.

"Barack Obama's mother was living in Kenya with his Arab-African father late in her pregnancy," it said. "She was not allowed to travel by plane then, so Barack Obama was born there and his mother then took him to Hawaii to register his birth."

The cry that Obama was not a legitimate candidate grew much louder in June."

#36 | Posted by MSgt at 2016-09-16 01:39 PM | Reply

#36 - Another lie, no citation.

#37 | Posted by YAV at 2016-09-16 01:44 PM | Reply

"they still believe the lies from the '60s and '70s, except they've made more up!"

What lies? That the Vietnam war was a farce all along just like the Iraq War and our leaders are not being straight with us?

The hippies were right bro.

Nixon WAS a crook and you should know where your food is coming from and you should compost and you should make love not war.

And America is not evil. Though some of our actions or the unintended consequences have been.

#38 | Posted by donnerboy at 2016-09-16 02:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

the left leaning folks here on the retort are very intolerant and arrogant towards average Americans.

What on earth are you talking about, Eberly?
Intolerant? Of what?

#39 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-09-16 03:26 PM | Reply

Hillary and her campaign never said anything about Obama not being American. Nobody forced Trump to push an obvious myth.

#6 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar

I guess you were just a child back in 08 and wouldn't remember it.

#40 | Posted by Sniper at 2016-09-16 03:33 PM | Reply

I guess you were just a child back in 08 and wouldn't remember it.
#40 | POSTED BY SNIPER AT 2016-09-16 03:33 PM | FLAG:

What's your excuse for not knowing anything?

Syphilis?

#41 | Posted by ClownShack at 2016-09-16 03:36 PM | Reply

And he STILL couldn't do it without lying!
This guy is so frikken hilariously awful!

#29 | Posted by YAV

So he lied when he said b h obama was born in America?

#42 | Posted by Sniper at 2016-09-16 03:40 PM | Reply

What on earth are you talking about, Eberly?
Intolerant? Of what?

#39 | Posted by snoofy

Racists think they should be a protected group like minorities.

They're furious that their racism isn't tolerated by decent people.

#43 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2016-09-16 03:44 PM | Reply

-Intolerant? Of what?

Americans and their opinions.

#44 | Posted by eberly at 2016-09-16 03:46 PM | Reply

-decent people.

do you actually know any?

#45 | Posted by eberly at 2016-09-16 03:47 PM | Reply

So he lied when he said b h obama was born in America?
#42 | POSTED BY SNIPER

It must be some kind of born-under-a-bad-sign gift the gypsies left with you in the basket - a knack for sounding so stoopid when you try and sound smart.

#46 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2016-09-16 03:54 PM | Reply

left leaning folks here on the retort are very intolerant and arrogant towards average Americans. Not all of them...but many of them.
#26 | POSTED BY EBERLY

That's some good trolling.

#47 | Posted by ClownShack at 2016-09-16 04:26 PM | Reply

but many of them.
#26 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Liberals are a bunch of arrogant intolerants!

Some are very good people I hear.

#48 | Posted by donnerboy at 2016-09-16 05:01 PM | Reply

#48

some are, indeed.

#49 | Posted by eberly at 2016-09-16 05:14 PM | Reply

Intolerant? Of what?
Americans and their opinions.

Should all opinions be tolerated, Eberly?
Racism, for example.

#50 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-09-16 05:21 PM | Reply

Snoofy, you're in no position to judge an opinion because you see racism everywhere, in everyone, and everything written, said, implied, sang about, chanted, hummed, and mimed.

#51 | Posted by eberly at 2016-09-16 05:24 PM | Reply

I believe in free speech.

I tolerate your opinion, Snoofy.

If for no other reason that it's quite a source of entertainment for me.

#52 | Posted by eberly at 2016-09-16 05:25 PM | Reply

Factoids are like hemeroheedees.
They require lots of care and nurturing.
~ Obese Donald

#53 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2016-09-16 05:25 PM | Reply

That doesn't answer the question.
Should racism be tolerated?

#54 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-09-16 05:27 PM | Reply

How many people do you think are racists, Snoofy?

#55 | Posted by eberly at 2016-09-16 05:29 PM | Reply

You're unable to say if racism should be tolerated.
Because you're a weasel.

#56 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-09-16 05:33 PM | Reply

You see racism in your cornflakes.
Because you are a psycho

#57 | Posted by eberly at 2016-09-16 05:33 PM | Reply

Snoofy......do you mean to say "racist comments" should be tolerated?

You can skim posts on this place you think are racist and show some to me that you think "shouldn't be tolerated".

okay?

Then I'll tell you if I think they should be tolerated or not. sound fair?

#58 | Posted by eberly at 2016-09-16 05:35 PM | Reply

Weasels like to precondition their actions on ridiculous requests of others, then blame others for their own recalcitrance.

#59 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-09-16 05:41 PM | Reply

you can't do it, can you?

you can't fine racist posts here? YOU can't find them?

I can tell you this......I'm willing to tolerate a lot from folks....anti-religious, anti-business, attacks on folks for their voting choices, beliefs, career choices, drug use, ethics, military service, etc......

I tolerate all of it.

#60 | Posted by eberly at 2016-09-16 05:45 PM | Reply

I was referring to "opinions"

I tolerate them. You changed it to "racism" and demanded I say if I tolerate "racism".

I was talking about "opinions"

#61 | Posted by eberly at 2016-09-16 05:48 PM | Reply

Eberly is it okay to see racism in the death of Emmett Till?

How about in Reagan kicking off his Presidential campaign in the town most famous for the murder of three civil rights workers?

How about when Reagan banned open carry after Black Panthers open carried in Sacramento.

#62 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-09-16 05:50 PM | Reply

maybe
no
no

#63 | Posted by eberly at 2016-09-16 05:51 PM | Reply

Actually you said Americans and their opinions.

There are people that shouldn't be tolerated. In America and elsewhere.

#64 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-09-16 05:54 PM | Reply

Really, the death of Emmett Till is a maybe?

That's beyond the pale, even for you.

#65 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-09-16 05:55 PM | Reply

how about me?

#66 | Posted by eberly at 2016-09-16 05:55 PM | Reply

I only said maybe because I don't know who he is.

#67 | Posted by eberly at 2016-09-16 05:56 PM | Reply

Perhaps if you knew who Emmett Till was you wouldn't come off as having your head firmly in the sand on racial issues.

But I have to ask about Reagan. What kind of racial message do you think it sends when you start your run for presidency in a town famous for killing civil rights workers. "A racist message" is a perfectly understandable and sensible answer.

#68 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-09-16 06:05 PM | Reply

How about you?
You wear blinders.
Not knowing Emmett Till is Exhibit A in your choice to lead a blinkered life.

#69 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-09-16 06:06 PM | Reply

#68

Did Reagan make racist comments?

No?

#70 | Posted by eberly at 2016-09-16 06:23 PM | Reply

Did Reagan make racist comments?

You didn't answer the question.

What kind of message does it send when a candidate from the party that doesn't get many black votes since Civil Rights, a candidate who as Governor banned open carry after blacks started doing it on the steps of the State House, kicks off their campaign for President in the town most famous for being the place where three civil rights workers were murdered?

#71 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-09-16 07:12 PM | Reply

Reagan opposed the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act and the Fair Housing Act.

Racist?

#72 | Posted by snoofy at 2016-09-16 07:15 PM | Reply

Great time to pull out the Lee Atwater quote.

#73 | Posted by YAV at 2016-09-16 09:41 PM | Reply

Big story? really?

who give a F? Obama is not running

if this is what the left is railing on, they are done

#74 | Posted by Maverick at 2016-09-16 10:25 PM | Reply

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