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Thursday, September 04, 2014

A jury on Thursday found former Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell and his wife Maureen guilty on multiple counts of conspiracy and honest services wire fraud. The pair were indicted in January on 14 federal counts over their role in a gift scandal. The indictments centered around tens of thousands of dollars worth of gifts received by the Republican couple from a wealthy tobacco executive. McDonnell, the first governor in Virginia history to be charged with a crime, and his wife potentially face decades in federal prison. The moment the first guilty verdict was read, Bob McDonnell closed his eyes tightly, shaking in his seat as he wept. The McDonnells, who have been living apart since the trial begin, left in separate vehicles after the verdicts.

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Morally ethical family values champion found guilty on 11 counts of "conservative" values.

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FOX will Prolly identify him as a Dem in the TV crawl below the story, as they dishonestly have done, time and time again, in the past.

#1 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2014-09-04 04:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

well, he just happened to get caught. You don't really believe this is a partisan issue, do you?

#2 | Posted by DeadSpin at 2014-09-04 04:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

You damn right it is. And he made it that way.

#3 | Posted by kudzu at 2014-09-04 04:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

I see. so this type of behavior is restricted to republicans. check.

#4 | Posted by DeadSpin at 2014-09-04 05:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

Republicans are quite nonpartisan when it comes to Republican scandals.

Hey Spinner, were you as circumspect when Blagojevitch was convicted?

Howsabout when Jesse Jackson was sent to jail?

If you were, my hat is off to you.

When a Republican says,in effect, "they all do it", it usually means a Republican just got caught.

#5 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2014-09-04 05:44 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

"See. So this type of behavior is restricted to republicans. Check"

Umm no.

However when you make yourself out to be as pure as the driven snow this behavior is much more noticeable and deserving of ridicule.

I do have to admit that I am getting a good laugh looking back at all the idolizing praise the "base" heaped on this ------. They sure do love their snake oil salesmen over there in cra-craville

#6 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2014-09-04 05:48 PM | Reply | Flag:

What a piker ..LOL
Duke Cunningham, plead guilty to accepting at least $2.4 million in bribes and also tax evasion.

#7 | Posted by SammyAZ_RI at 2014-09-04 06:01 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

..but these Rethugs go to church every Sunday and that's more important.

#8 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-09-04 10:04 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

lend the prestige of the governor's office to Jonnie R. Williams Sr. in a nefarious exchange for his largesse.

so he was found guilty...okay...pay the price...but this comment is as close as ANY of the three articles I've read that actually says what WILLIAMS got in return....

I would just like to know what he got because this does NOT tell us...williams got immunity...okay...not unusual...and I know some of you partisan left wingers will do your 'thing' on me...but why can't we know just what he got....

Why can't we know the details ?

#9 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-09-04 10:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

and these are federal charges.....well then that answers my question....

details don't matter.....

#10 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-09-04 10:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

...for once I gotta agree with unable, in that there is nothing more unreliable than a witness facing prison or offered an early release. Its what today's Prosecutors depend on.

#11 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-09-04 10:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

So, he is innocent until proven guilty, then after he is proven guilty on 11 counts of conspiracy and wire fraud charges, he is still innocent to Babbles and nutter...cause Babbles hasnt read more than a headline about the charges, and Nutter says he doesnt like the manner in which the miscreant's crimes were discovered.

Well, I guess that settles the matter.

He cant be guilty, as he was found by a jury of his peers.
He is innocent by reason of Republicanness.

You guys are really sumthin.

#12 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2014-09-04 10:49 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

This had to be one of the top 10 worst defense strategies I've ever heard of from a politician.

#13 | Posted by Twinpac at 2014-09-05 12:18 AM | Reply | Flag:

You don't really believe this is a partisan issue, do you?
#2 | POSTED BY DEADSPIN AT 2014-09-04 04:55 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

"Both sides are the same"(tm) deflection.

#14 | Posted by 726 at 2014-09-05 06:29 AM | Reply | Flag:

"The moment the first guilty verdict was read, Bob McDonnell closed his eyes tightly, shaking in his seat as he wept. "

Good for him.

#15 | Posted by 726 at 2014-09-05 07:32 AM | Reply | Flag:

I hope he was wearing an absorbent undergarment. Other people have to sit in those seats, too.

#16 | Posted by Twinpac at 2014-09-05 07:36 AM | Reply | Flag:

WHAT?? No video of his reaction to him hearing the verdict?? Dammit.

#17 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-09-05 07:42 AM | Reply | Flag:

Deadspun, the only reason this story is interesting or even slightly unusual is because this piece of crap (and his loyal but unintelligent fans) presented him as a model of Christian virtue and good old clean family values.

If you recall some of the past conversations we have had, this is emblematic of the problem I have with the GOP. I am basically a conservative/libertarian type (nowadays, that means independent), but I hate these religionist charlatan politicians. I will vote for a liberal democrat or even a socialist the rest of my life before I will vote for one of these wingnut fools.

What the poor religious people in America, who are not experts in politics, don't understand is that they are so desperate for validation that they have hitched their wagon to these fools. They will say any lie to get their vote. Claiming to 'be just like them' is just one of the lies that they have found to be very effective.

They are not 'just like the good religious small folk in america', they are liars and thieves, and I am on a mission to tell that to John Q. Public, because I want the 'smart GOP' back, not because I care what happens to stupid religious people.

#18 | Posted by kudzu at 2014-09-05 07:48 AM | Reply | Flag:

#18

Reminds me of

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and

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#19 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-09-05 08:04 AM | Reply | Flag:

#6 "pure as the driven snow" is a stupid saying due to the fact that rain, snow, and ice accumulate on a based of dirt particles.

They are, at their foundation, dirty.

#20 | Posted by HeuristicGratis at 2014-09-05 08:44 AM | Reply | Flag:

"I would just like to know what he got because this does NOT tell us"

GD you are such a lazy bastard.

"The supplement was launched, with much fanfare, at an event at the governor's mansion. The state's first lady traveled the country with Williams, promoting the product at events with groups of doctors and potential investors."

When was the last time you held an event promoting your product at the governor's mansion?
When was the last time they even let you into the governor's mansion?
When was the last time you picked up the phone and actually spoke the governor?
When was the last time they let you within 50' of the governor?

I wrote to McDonnell once, all I got was a canned response. Of course, I was just asking for some "small business" help and didn't include a check.

#21 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2014-09-05 09:21 AM | Reply | Flag:

The GOP needs to open their own Publishing Company. That way, when their members need money, they can have a ghost writer put together a autobiography, purchase a couple of million copies, give the books away at 20% of their cost and the member gets rich. See Obama and Hillary for examples.

#22 | Posted by RobThomas at 2014-09-05 09:42 AM | Reply | Flag:

GOP does it too. See Gingrich. It is an old and very well known back door method to getting money to your favorite politician. You can buy a copy for every employee as a Christmas gift for example.

#23 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-09-05 09:43 AM | Reply | Flag:

Dont be so hard on Governor Ultra Sound.

He was just doing what he learned at that Christian Family Guy Values University.

And The Lord said,
When in trouble throw your wife under the bus.

Now The Lord is just opening some new doors for him.

Prison doors.

Where he can now get his own personal Ultra sound probes.

The Lord sure works in Mysterious Ways.

#24 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-09-05 11:31 AM | Reply | Flag:

...but I hate these religionist charlatan politicians. I will vote for a liberal democrat or even a socialist the rest of my life before I will vote for one of these wingnut fools.

I agree. He's as bad as the Benny Hinns and Paul Crouches-es. I can't stand the political religionization of the evangelical wingnuts. It's offensive.

If Jesus was still in His tomb he'd be rolling over. I wish they'd leave His name out of it.

#25 | Posted by DeadSpin at 2014-09-05 12:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

My original point was that crooks on both sides of the aisle exist despite party affiliation.

#26 | Posted by DeadSpin at 2014-09-05 12:22 PM | Reply | Flag:

"It was a stunning outcome for the couple, all the more so because in December, McDonnell declined to accept a plea agreement in which he would have been found guilty of just one felony count of lying on a loan document, according to people familiar with the case. Maureen McDonnell would have faced no charges."

You have to wonder why they would have refused to take the plea bargain. I imagine that Mrs. McDonnell, especially, regrets that decision now.

#27 | Posted by danni at 2014-09-05 12:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

You have to wonder why they would have refused to take the plea bargain.

It has been reported that accepting of gifts is ok under VA law. Maybe they thought that VA law trumped federal law?

#28 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2014-09-05 01:07 PM | Reply | Flag:

Lessee,
High risk, Low reward.
What could go wrong?

#29 | Posted by jcougowl at 2014-09-05 01:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

This guy was apparently on the short list of people Romney was considering for VP. What a surprise..

#30 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2014-09-05 02:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

You have to wonder why they would have refused to take the plea bargain. I imagine that Mrs. McDonnell, especially, regrets that decision now.

#27 | Posted by danni

He thought The Lord would protect him. He obviously didn't care about her anymore.

Family Guy Values.

#31 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-09-05 02:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

and OF COURSE even in the NY TIME article...there is Not ONE MENTION of

what williams got in return for all this....

and Im sure since all of you are so smart you DO KNOW that he BROKE NO STATE ETHICS law......don't believe me ? take it up with the NEW YORK TIMES>..

it's in the new york times under byline of trip gabriel.,..but NATURALLY that's in the last paragraph or two...

just sayin....not against state law....DEMOCRAT doj comes after him....found guilty....but I"M SURE there's no political payback here...oh no...not at all....

#32 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-09-05 02:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

The Democrat DOJ offered McDonnell (who is a lawyer) a sweetheart plea bargain, and he turned it down ! What an idiot ...LOL

#33 | Posted by SammyAZ_RI at 2014-09-05 03:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

didn't know that.....MAYBE he didn't because as the TIMES says....the things they got him on were not against state law.....

either way....what a great chance for the OBAMA DOJ to make a point and go after EVERY one they suspect,....even obama supporters..

#34 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-09-05 03:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

and Im sure since all of you are so smart you DO KNOW that he BROKE NO STATE ETHICS law......

Not so hard to believe once you understand that VA Ethics laws are some of the weakest in the nation. I am sure that is about to change once the Historical nature of this conviction sinks in.

He did, however, break federal corruption laws. But, hey, maybe that kind of thing is considered ok to do in Texas?

#35 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-09-05 03:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

either way....what a great chance for the OBAMA DOJ to make a point and go after EVERY one they suspect,....even obama supporters..

#34 | Posted by afkabl2

So, how is that Lawsuit to sue the President for doing his job coming along?

#36 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-09-05 03:25 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

So, how is that Lawsuit to sue the President for doing his job coming along?

#36 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY AT 2014-09-05 03:25 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

You mean the one related to a publisher purchasing the very books they sell in order to pay Obama?

#37 | Posted by RobThomas at 2014-09-05 05:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

Why is it that Gingrich was investigated and in turn decided to turn down a $4million dollar advance on a book deal and Obama did not?

The book advance from the publisher totalled $1.9 million contracted for three books.[3] Obama announced his ultimately successful presidential campaign on February 10, 2007, a little more than three months after the book's release.

It's because monkeys say "Do as I say, not as I do."

#38 | Posted by RobThomas at 2014-09-05 06:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

It's because monkeys say "Do as I say, not as I do."

#38 | POSTED BY ROBTHOMAS

If I was you I wouldn't mess with a Time traveling Socialist Muslim Monkeys from Kenya.

Time Lords can kinda do what they wanna.

#39 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-09-05 11:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

They need to let folks with pot offenses out of jail and start filling the prisons with the scum politicians who are the real criminals. This ---- is guilty and a hypocrite, lock him on a cell and throw away the key.

#40 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2014-09-06 01:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

Too bad they don't start investigating the crimes of the second Bush admin and start throwing those troglodytes (see all of them including Cheney and Dubya) in REAL prison.

Then AFTER that they should investigate the Obama admin for their crimes (see expansion of the patriot act and the NDAA), and while we are investigating, let's go after congress with a fine toothed comb!

#41 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2014-09-06 01:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

wtvr.com

McDonnell will have his license to practice law removed once the Virginia State Bar receives notice of his felony convictions.

There is also chance that he could lose his pension, due to a law he signed into effect in 2011. The legislation lis.virginia.gov states that retirement benefits are forfeited upon certain felony convictions.

This means that McDonnell could lose the pensions he earned while serving as an Army Reserves lieutenant colonel, Virginia Attorney General, and as a lawmaker in the House of Delegates.

#42 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-09-06 02:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

Ole McDonnell went to jail,
eeeiiieeeiiiooooooo,
and while in jail he
turned some tricks,
eeeiiieeeiiiooooooo...
(come on, everybody sing!)

#43 | Posted by earthmuse at 2014-09-06 09:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

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