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Thursday, September 04, 2014

Seventeen fake cellphone towers were discovered across the U.S. last week, according to a report in Popular Science. Rather than offering you cellphone service, the towers appear to be connecting to nearby phones, bypassing their encryption, and either tapping calls or reading texts. Les Goldsmith, the CEO of ESD America, used the company's CryptoPhone 500 to detect 17 bogus cellphone towers. Goldsmith said, "Interceptor use in the U.S. is much higher than people had anticipated. One of our customers took a road trip from Florida to North Carolina and he found eight different interceptors on that trip. We even found one at South Point Casino in Las Vegas."

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Where was your dissenting voice when Dubya was doing the spying Boaz???

#1 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-09-04 12:22 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 7

Where was your dissenting voice when Dubya was doing the spying Boaz???

They were still paying him so he wasn't going to say anything...

#2 | Posted by jpw at 2014-09-04 02:31 AM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

The article points out that the NSA doesn't need them, so the question is "are they domestic?" Time to follow the money on the construction of the towers and see who is at the other end. I'm betting someplace on the continent of Asia.

#3 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2014-09-04 08:33 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Where was your dissenting voice when Dubya was doing the spying Boaz???

Same place yours was while Obama has been doing it.

#4 | Posted by boaz at 2014-09-04 09:34 AM | Reply | Flag:

#4 So you freely admit that you are a hypocrite. That's okay. It's not like we didn't already know.

#5 | Posted by 726 at 2014-09-04 11:59 AM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

From the story:

Although it is unclear who owns the towers, ESD found that several of them were located near U.S. military bases.

"Whose interceptor is it? Who are they, that's listening to calls around military bases? Is it just the U.S. military, or are they foreign governments doing it? The point is: we don't really know whose they are," Goldsmith said to Popular Science.

It's probably not the NSA -- that agency can tap all it wants without the need for bogus towers, VentureBeat reported:

Not the NSA, cloud security firm SilverSky CTO/SVP Andrew Jaquith told us. "The NSA doesn't need a fake tower," he said. "They can just go to the carrier" to tap your line

So we know it ain't OBama.

#6 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-09-04 12:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

The FBI thinks its hackers looking for passwords and identities - you can run a fake base station with a laptop.

But Mustang may be right, it could be the Yellow Peril.

#7 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2014-09-04 03:23 PM | Reply | Flag:

If we're talking about software on a laptop connected to a coat hanger...well that may be....but you can't simply erect a tower and place a communication device on it willy nilly. The property where it's erected is owned by someone, the tower requires a long list of permits, requires power, requires cooper/fiber etc.

Even if someone used an existing tower, they would have to have access to the hut below the tower, use their power and copper/fiber and need a T1 or other high density circuit to access and move traffic. Techs know whats in their huts. There isn't any unknown strange equipment laying around...not even in CoLo's.

That doesn't even take into account the fact that they would need access to UHF RF bands that TELCOs hold and monitor like gold.

IF these exist, they aren't hackers. It's TELCO or Gov't.

#8 | Posted by DeadSpin at 2014-09-04 04:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

Build Your Own Cellular Network: www.technologyreview.com

Looks easy to me.

#9 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2014-09-04 04:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

Like I said, "If we're talking about software on a laptop connected to a coat hanger...well that may be."

If we're talking towers with cellular RF? theres no way TELCO or gov't doesn't know.

#10 | Posted by DeadSpin at 2014-09-04 05:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

Same place yours was while Obama has been doing it.

#4 | Posted by boaz at 2014-09-04 09:34 AM | Reply | Flag

I've been against BOTH doing it. Nice deflection though.

#11 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-09-04 05:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

#10 I think it's a small box with a 5km range, like in the article I linked, not a tower.

Also, there is a guy in my neighbourhood with a huge antenna mast in his backyard (ham radio?), so it doesn't sound too hard to get away with.

#12 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2014-09-04 05:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

.. IF these exist, they aren't hackers. It's TELCO or Gov't.
#8 | Posted by DeadSpin at 2014-09-04 04:46 PM

Precisely. The biggest spy cellular spy network was actually designed by our "good friends" in the Middle East where much of the encryption routines were developed and current traffic is routed through. Israel.

#13 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2014-09-04 07:55 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Creeeeeeepy.

#14 | Posted by Tor at 2014-09-04 08:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

IF these exist, they aren't hackers. It's TELCO or Gov't.

#8 | Posted by DeadSpin

Cyber crime is the mafia's bread and butter now. Russian mob especially.

#15 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-09-04 08:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

I don't think any of you know what the different types of towers look like.

#16 | Posted by rearendhat at 2014-09-04 09:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

cross country repeaters seems likely.

#17 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-09-04 09:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

cross country repeaters seems likely.

Posted by nutcase at 2014-09-04 09:55 PM | Reply

So the equivalent to a woman with a multiple bullhorn then.

#18 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-09-04 10:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

Most of it transmits in the worldwide, no, universal langauge of porn anyhoo...so whAts the diff?

#19 | Posted by mutant at 2014-09-04 10:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

I thought this was an article about the cell towers that look like trees

#20 | Posted by mutant at 2014-09-04 10:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

They were not towers. They are likely laptops monitoring everything.
Many are the police some are at army bases. Others are criminals.

None are the cell companies.

It is called the Stingray system and has been talked about for years but no one listens. So now PS science calls them towers and you finally listen up and tell the story?

Because you told the story in a confusing way no one knows whats going on.

These are Stingray systems monitoring and tracking phones. They are not real cell phone towers. They trick your phone into thinking they are a tower then monitor your calls and track you.

Until now no software existed to find them but this new phone can identify them in a test they found 17 but there are thousands and thousands in the US.
And we do not know who is running them and what they are doing with the data.

www.theblaze.com

In china they can access your phone with these devices what they can do here is unknown but they can read your text and track your GPS location.

#21 | Posted by tmaster at 2014-09-05 12:13 AM | Reply | Flag:

No they are Stingray systems

#22 | Posted by tmaster at 2014-09-05 12:14 AM | Reply | Flag:

The new surveillance technology is the StingRay (also marketed as Triggerfish, IMSI Catcher, Cell-site Simulator or Digital Analyzer), a sophisticated, portable spy device able to track cell phone signals inside vehicles, homes and insulated buildings. StingRay trackers act as fake cell towers, allowing police investigators to pinpoint location of a targeted wireless mobile by sucking up phone data such as text messages, emails and cell-site information.

When a suspect makes a phone call, the StingRay tricks the cell into sending its signal back to the police, thus preventing the signal from traveling back to the suspect's wireless carrier. But not only does StingRay track the targeted cell phone, it also extracts data off potentially thousands of other cell phone users in the area.

Although manufactured by a Germany and Britain-based firm, the StingRay devices are sold in the US by the Harris Corporation, an international telecommunications equipment company. It gets between $60,000 and $175,000 for each Stingray it sells to US law enforcement agencies.

www.globalresearch.ca

#23 | Posted by tmaster at 2014-09-05 12:18 AM | Reply | Flag:

It's kinda funny how people who pack wireless GPS homing beacons everywhere they go grumble about their location being tracked.

#24 | Posted by REDIAL at 2014-09-05 12:46 AM | Reply | Flag:

#24 now that makes sense.

#25 | Posted by DeadSpin at 2014-09-05 12:52 AM | Reply | Flag:

If Stingray isn't a search does that mean anybody can set one up?

#26 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-09-05 01:02 AM | Reply | Flag:

#23 You... you mean it isn't the Jews?!

#27 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2014-09-05 01:12 AM | Reply | Flag:

Nothing to worry about as long as the homeland is safe!

#28 | Posted by Scotty at 2014-09-05 02:21 AM | Reply | Flag:

#8 Deathspin

You are correct. A full sized cell tower has Alpha, Beta and Gamma radios that bring in the signal thru a BTS(1x or 2x cellphones) or an AEM aggregating router (3G or LTE). That's some expensive equipment that has passwords and is encrypted. They should be able to find out who is behind this pretty quickly.

#29 | Posted by boaz at 2014-09-05 08:30 AM | Reply | Flag:

Whichever alphabet soup fascist intelligence organization they belong to is not relevant. The NSA definitely knew that they were there, and did #$^& all.

#30 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-09-05 08:41 AM | Reply | Flag:

Maybe the JV Basketball team needs them to broadcast changes in the practice schedule....

#31 | Posted by wisgod at 2014-09-05 09:05 AM | Reply | Flag:

Where was your dissenting voice when Dubya was doing the spying Boaz???

#1 | Posted by LarryMohr

Where are you now that your boy is taking it to new heights?

#32 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-09-05 10:23 AM | Reply | Flag:

So we know it ain't OBama.

#6 | Posted by kanrei

Would you bet your life on that statement?

#33 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-09-05 10:25 AM | Reply | Flag:

Would you bet your life on that statement?

#33 | POSTED BY SNIPER AT 2014-09-05 10:25 AM

Meaningless question. What are you, Groucho Marx? Do I get a special prize if I guess the secret word?

#34 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-09-05 10:26 AM | Reply | Flag:

Why not just take down one of these towers and see who comes around to complain?

Just kidding NSA/FBI/CIA/SHIELD please don't put a black hood over my head and drag me away. I actually like being spied on, really....

#35 | Posted by Sully at 2014-09-05 10:35 AM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

I would like to apologize to the tower owners, for the time they wasted listening to my boring phone calls. Fell free to bill my Master Card (you have the numbers and password already)

#36 | Posted by SammyAZ_RI at 2014-09-05 01:22 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Meaningless question. What are you, Groucho Marx? Do I get a special prize if I guess the secret word?"

I never thought you were old enough to remember Groucho.

#37 | Posted by danni at 2014-09-05 01:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

I never thought you were old enough to remember Groucho.

#37 | POSTED BY DANNI AT 2014-09-05 01:30 PM

=D I listen to a TON of old time radio shows. On a "Father Knows Best" kick right now. Just finished a "My Friend Irma" one.

#38 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-09-05 01:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

Same place yours was while Obama has been doing it.

#4 | Posted by boaz at 2014-09-04 09:34 AM | Reply | Flag

I've been against BOTH doing it. Nice deflection though.

#11 | Posted by LarryMohr

He meant it was In the Future.

#39 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-09-05 02:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

Why not just take down one of these towers and see who comes around to complain?

Just kidding NSA/FBI/CIA/SHIELD please don't put a black hood over my head and drag me away. I actually like being spied on, really....

#35 | Posted by Sully

So what you are saying is that you like to be watched while you dance nekked in front of your laptop?

I think there is an App for that.

#40 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-09-05 02:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

So what you are saying is that you like to be watched while you dance nekked in front of your laptop?

Are you saying webcams have another purpose?

#41 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-09-05 02:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

#23 You... you mean it isn't the Jews?!
#27 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2014-09-05 01:12 AM

Come off it - you know that orthodox zealots of any form are the real threat to societies across this planet. I have ZERO problem with Jewish satyr, I celebrate Christmas mass and adore Muslim call to prayer. It's the crazy Zionists that have infected everything from governance to military to corporatism. Their mentality is a disease and YES the encryption routines for these cellular devices was developed by Israeli.

I've never heard of Stingray - but this is extremely probable that it is closely aligned with corporate espionage. The black box voting devices are also German-made.

#42 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2014-09-05 02:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

These towers are big news, A tower and hardware go for around $600,000- for a small one. about 2.5 million for a big one. Find out who put them up, they have access to the dark web. If you don't know what that is, get better informed. If this story is axed, it was probily the government. Otherwise, look for folks who have millions to invest in a major crime conspiracy.

#43 | Posted by docnjo at 2014-09-05 08:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

(also marketed as Triggerfish, IMSI Catcher, Cell-site Simulator or Digital Analyzer)

They were going to call it the Humuhumunukunukuapua, IMSI catcher, Cell-site Simulator or Digital Analyzer until they realized by the time they spelled it the signal would be gone.

Well that and Hawaiian's are too laid back to spy on people.

#44 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2014-09-05 09:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

As they* say, "If you have nothing to hide, all of this talk of spying and monitoring is an irrelevant conspiracy theory and unimportant."

Some day I predict Americans will grasp the reality that the left-right divide is really a tool created to splinter us, and keep us from uniting against the embedded corporate and political corruption.

*The MSM and mouthpiece of the PTB

#45 | Posted by Robson at 2014-09-06 02:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Some day I predict Americans will grasp the reality..."

I doubt it.

"...that the left-right divide is really a tool created to splinter us, and keep us from uniting against the embedded corporate and political corruption."

...that its the two heads of the same snake.

These parties differ on a few knee-jerk popular issues. they just tell us what we want to hear to create the illusion there's a choice. But in the end? it doesn't matter who wins an election, theyre going to do whatever financially benefits themselves and their buddies.

You either get Don Corleone or Don Barzini. there aren't any other choices.

#46 | Posted by DeadSpin at 2014-09-06 03:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

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