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States that have legalized medical marijuana tend to experience an unexpected benefit -- fewer overdose deaths from narcotic painkillers, a new study suggests. Access to medical marijuana is associated with 25 percent fewer prescription drug overdose deaths each year compared to states where medical pot is illegal, according to findings published Aug. 25 in JAMA Internal Medicine. What's more, states that pass medical marijuana laws see their overdose death rates decrease dramatically in the years immediately afterward, researchers reported.

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"We think that people with chronic pain may be choosing to treat their pain with marijuana rather than with prescription painkillers, in states where this is legal," said lead author Dr. Marcus Bachhuber, a researcher with the Center for Health Equity Research and Promotion at the Philadelphia Veterans Affairs Medical Center.

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Next, you hippies will tell me hemp has 50,000 uses.

But if this is true, then we can expect more sandals, Led Zeppelin, and long hair among the elderly.

#1 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2014-09-01 05:30 AM | Reply | Flag:

Huh. I just googled "hemp tampon"* to find out, and it turns out there may actually be 50,001 uses for hemp....

* The last time I used google that way, it was to see if anyone on earth had ever said "I am going to cut off my dick and shove it up my ass". It turns out no-one ever has.

#2 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2014-09-01 06:08 AM | Reply | Flag:

That doesn't mean a thing HR, except that they used duckduckgo to search instructions. ;-p

#3 | Posted by zeropointnrg at 2014-09-01 02:53 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

My problem with medical marijuana: the hacks who write a prescription to anyone who can fog a mirror and complain of 'back pain' or menstrual cramps. Put the stuff into pill form, and make it a real regulated drug. Then lots of phonies will get a life and those who really will benefit form this treatment will receive that benefit without being labeled as dopers...

#4 | Posted by catdog at 2014-09-01 06:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

Traffic deaths have dropped in Colorado as well, contrary to the anti-marijuana lobby predictions. I suspect that pot use has displaced alcohol use, which leads to safer roads.

#5 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-09-01 07:35 PM | Reply | Flag:

#4 | POSTED BY CATDOG AT 2014-09-01 06:59 PM | REPLY | FLAG

What problems do you see arising if anyone over 18 can purchase Marijuana. Is it worse then alcohol to you? Have you ever smoked a joint?

#6 | Posted by Buffalo_Bob at 2014-09-01 08:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

Then lots of phonies will get a life and those who really will benefit form this treatment will receive that benefit without being labeled as dopers...
#4 | Posted by catdog at 2014-09-01 06:59 PM | Reply

Aaaaaand the Most Ignorant Post of the Day award goes to..... Catdog!

So, is someone that uses Advil (or Vicodin) to manage their joint pain all day long considered a doper to you? How about someone who suffers from insomnia and can't get to sleep without Ambien? Or someone who just can't seem to wake up in the morning without a cup of caffeine? Are all of these people "dopers" to you too?

Why does it seem to get under your skin that some of these folks who do suffer from these conditions (and many many many other conditions) decide to use marijuana instead of the junk churned out by the pharmaceutical industry?

Look around you. You're stuck in the 1940s mentality. Everyone else is evolving around you. Soon, you'll be left holding two sticks and wondering how the phvck everyone else got fire. You are becoming insignificant. And that actually makes me smile.

#7 | Posted by deadseasquirrel at 2014-09-01 09:04 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

@ HeliumRat & ZeropointNRG

What I find disturbing is that there are advertisements for that particular search.

#8 | Posted by censored at 2014-09-01 11:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

This is exactly what the pharmaceutical companies are worried about.
Anti-marijuana "researchers" are on the payroll of the pharmaceutical industry.
You know, the pharmaceutical industry that sees marijuana as a existential threat to their opiate products...
www.vice.com

many of the largest anti-pot advocacy groups, including the Community Anti-Drug Coalitions for America, which has organized opposition to reform through its network of activists and through handing out advocacy material (sample op-eds against medical pot along with Reefer Madness-style videos, for example), has relied on significant funding from painkiller companies, including Purdue Pharma and Alkermes. Pharmaceutical-funded anti-drug groups like the Partnership for Drug-Free Kids and CADCA use their budget to obsess over weed while paying lip-service to the much bigger drug problem in America of over-prescribed opioids.

As ProPublica reported, painkiller-funded researchers helped fuel America's deadly addiction to opioids such as OxyContin and Vicodin. These academics, with quiet funding from major pain pill firms, encouraged doctors to over-prescribe these drugs for a range of pain relief issues, leading to where we stand today as the world's biggest consumer of painkillers and the overdose capital of the planet.

#9 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-09-02 01:08 AM | Reply | Flag:

Dead: My problem isn't with those who need medical marijuana to help them conduct productive lives, its with those who seek a prescription so as to hit a spliff all day long at the local 'medical dispensary' rather than make something of themselves. Those folks are only about two steps from inhabitants of opium dens. Meds should help people, NOT allow them to live life in a daze...

#10 | Posted by catdog at 2014-09-02 08:25 AM | Reply | Flag:

Dead: My problem isn't with those who need medical marijuana to help them conduct productive lives, its with those who seek a prescription so as to hit a spliff all day long at the local 'medical dispensary' rather than make something of themselves. Those folks are only about two steps from inhabitants of opium dens. Meds should help people, NOT allow them to live life in a daze...

#10 | Posted by catdog at 2014-09-02 08:25 AM | Reply | Flag:

There are relatively few people like that compared to people who sit around getting drunk all day. Not to mention that the alcoholics cause many more problems when they are out among public. If legal drug abuse were really your problem, wouldn't you be taking on alcohol first?

#11 | Posted by sully at 2014-09-02 09:50 AM | Reply | Flag:

The notion that pot is incompatible with a productive life is absurd. The Beatles and others, including myself, would disagree. I went to college, skied, started two businesses and rebuilt a Volvo engine while being a heavy user for a decade. But, eventually I got tired of it. Now I do much less without the pot.

#12 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-09-02 09:50 AM | Reply | Flag:

"The notion that pot is incompatible with a productive life is absurd."

Of course. But there are people who abuse it. They aren't as numerous as people who abuse alcohol. They don't cause nearly as many problems as drunks. So they exist but as far as legal drug use goes they aren't our biggest problem.

#13 | Posted by Sully at 2014-09-02 10:03 AM | Reply | Flag:

i'd much rather ppl sit around all day smoking pot at the dispensary, then to sit around all day wasting their life on highly addictive prescription opium!

USA makes up 5% of the worlds population, and somehow manages to consume
about half of the world prescription meds.. and still pays 5x more than Canada for some Viagra! what I can't stand is old farts who run around the grocery store all day with hard um... well you can picture that

So much of the science has been manipulated over the decades, for the sole purpose of controlling competition with the monopolies @ prescription meds, logging, and even petro... remove those lobbies and there's no legitimate fight against full blown legalization.. not to mention its damn near world war III and so what a better time for legalization

#14 | Posted by HeyPal at 2014-09-02 10:21 AM | Reply | Flag:

here is your real Boogyman... As of 2012, USA consumes 80% of the worlds
painkillers... talk about wasting their lives and not making something of themselves.... do we really have that many injured people? If so that would only validate my point about the dumb factor in America... but its probably not the case and well, whats different about the manufacturers making so many drugs, enough to fuel this nonsense! really, what the hell!

www.businessinsider.com

and old farts whose minds are still consumed with bad science, still want to complain about reefer madness...

The folly of market worship

Times are a changing... an entire generation will be born, without the fears of marijuana that their grandparents had ... quite frankly television is more dangerous than marijuana and its the only legitimate
gateway drug @ Jersey Shore .. im so glad thats overwith

FWIW I used to do EVERYTHING ON WEED... I made friends, I drove around for no reason all day and night (when gas was cheaper), made love, hell I even sold real estate on weed... some ppl can handle it, everyone else is old ppl... im in the middle somwhere but frankly, we'll be voting well after the old ppl have been recycled, and many of them will be reincarnated under pot head parents it ought to be interesting

#15 | Posted by HeyPal at 2014-09-02 10:29 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Meds should help people, NOT allow them to live life in a daze...

#10 | Posted by catdog

Yeah that's what good ol fashioned american ALCOHOL is for!

You are only allowed to experience sensations that the right wing APPROVES of!

#16 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-09-02 11:50 AM | Reply | Flag:

So, is someone that uses Advil (or Vicodin) to manage their joint pain all day long considered a doper to you? How about someone who suffers from insomnia and can't get to sleep without Ambien?

No, but for everyone of those people who use weed to relieve their symptoms instead of those pills big pharma loses another paying customer.

Therein lies the real reason so many fight against the legalization of marijuana.

$$$$ first. Quality of life second.

Traffic deaths have dropped in Colorado as well, contrary to the anti-marijuana lobby predictions.

Just saw a news story here abcnews.go.com stating that traffic deaths will increase if weed is legal.

#17 | Posted by 726 at 2014-09-02 12:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

Just saw a news story here abcnews.go.com stating that traffic deaths will increase if weed is legal.

#17 | Posted by 726

Even that article fails to make an educated correlation, and even contradicts it near the end of the article.

"In Washington, there was a jump of nearly 25 percent in drivers testing positive for marijuana in 2013 -- the first full year after legalization -- but no corresponding increase in car accidents or fatalities."

#18 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2014-09-02 12:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

#18 That's also somewhat misleading. While possession was legal, marijuana wasn't legalized for sale in Washington until 2014. I also have to question how many drivers were being tested for marijuana before it became legal. Obviously if you test more you'll see more positives.

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-09-02 03:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

These academics, with quiet funding from major pain pill firms, encouraged doctors to over-prescribe these drugs for a range of pain relief issues, leading to where we stand today as the world's biggest consumer of painkillers and the overdose capital of the planet.

And almost half of Americans are afraid of pot being legal? They should be afraid of systems like these that are in place making it seem the Health Organizations of our country are actively trying to keep us healthy. The above runs DIRECTLY counter to such a notion.

It's written in black and white: big pharma is making itself out as an enemy when it overprescribes deadly "medicine" and demonizes "medicine" that can be grown in someone's backyard. What does it come down to? Money. Sure as hell is not life/death scenarios...they threw that justification right under the bus by pushing for overprescribing of opiate based pain killers.

#20 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-09-02 03:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

...its with those who seek a prescription so as to hit a spliff all day long at the local 'medical dispensary' rather than make something of themselves.

Only the naive believe that such individuals are not few and far between. You worry about a bogeyman, but you're an adult?

Interesting.

USA makes up 5% of the worlds population, and somehow manages to consume
about half of the world prescription meds.. and still pays 5x more than Canada for some Viagra! what I can't stand is old farts who run around the grocery store all day with hard um... well you can picture that

Very Newsworthy....

#21 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-09-02 03:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

The medical community is absolutely obligated to re-fit insurance to suit the reality that MARIJUANA SAVES LIVES.

To do otherwise is feeding a system of economic parasitism and medical hypocrisy.

#22 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2014-09-03 01:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

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