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The parents who pulled their cancer-stricken son from a British hospital and spurred an international search for the boy have been ordered to appear Monday in a court in Spain, where they were arrested, police said. Brett and Naghmeh King took their 5-year-old son, Ashya, who has brain cancer, to France and then Spain late last week, authorities said. Hotel staff members in Malaga, Spain, recognized Ashya and his family from media coverage and contacted police. Authorities did not confirm what charges the couple will face, but say that "cruelty" could be one of them as suggested by British law. British police have arrived in Spain to question the parents, Malaga police told CNN. The British Crown Prosecution Service will be working on extradition efforts.

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Sorry, but...what's on the way to happening here?

#1 | Posted by TheTom at 2014-09-01 03:22 AM | Reply | Flag:

Sorry, but...what's on the way to happening here?

#1 | POSTED BY THETOM

I'm assuming parents being arrested for taking their critically ill child out of a hospital (assuming it's because it's socialized and "bad").

#2 | Posted by Lohocla at 2014-09-01 03:32 AM | Reply | Flag:

I would think taking a child from one hospital to another shouldn't constitute abuse. It gets down to ideology and the type of care a parent thinks his or her child to get.

#3 | Posted by boaz at 2014-09-01 09:06 AM | Reply | Flag:

I don't know that this should result in criminal charges, but taking a seriously ill cancer-stricken boy out of a hospital without the OK of his doctors is a big deal. The U.K. hospital maintains that what the parents did put the child's life in danger.

So I don't see this as an example of nanny government run amok.

#4 | Posted by rcade at 2014-09-01 11:55 AM | Reply | Flag:

Agree with Rcade. These parents think they know better then the doctors. Yeah right! Oh, and Malaga is the place Brits go often to work on their suntan, not for cancer treatment.

#5 | Posted by CrisisStills at 2014-09-01 02:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

"U.K. hospital maintains that what the parents did put the child's life in danger."

Of course they did. It's called job security. Cancer doctors and Neurosurgeons are notoriously linear in thier thinking. While they may acknowledge other opinions and forms of treatment, they are absolutely defensive and condesending when thier methods or competency are questioned. Hint, ask for a second opinion and see how thier attitude changes. Normally I would preface this with "IMHO". But having worked with hundreds of them in several hopsitals and states over the past 20 years, I will have to drop it to "IMO".

#6 | Posted by bogey1355 at 2014-09-01 02:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

Of course they did. It's called job security.

And you can't imagine a scenario where a kid's life is truly in danger if parents take him out of the hospital against doctor's orders?

Doctors don't need to hang on to a specific patient for "job security." They have lots of patients. If these doctors thought he wasn't in a condition to leave, the decision may have been medically sound.

#7 | Posted by rcade at 2014-09-01 02:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

I would think taking a child from one hospital to another shouldn't constitute abuse. It gets down to ideology and the type of care a parent thinks his or her child to get.
#3 | Posted by boaz at 2014-09-01 09:06 AM

Very rational observation.

Oncology is a scam, and a disgusting practice - the pricing for radio-"therapy" exceeds nearly all other hospital-derived treatments. I only hope that CBD oil becomes the primary tool for fighting cancers and relegating surgeries and irradiation to only the most extreme instances.

No pain, no after-effects, no drug dependencies, NO MONEY DIRECTLY TO ONCOLOGISTS.

#8 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2014-09-01 02:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

One of the alternative cure-doctors i've read asserts that cancer is nourished by nothing but sugar, and the a sugar-free diet will starve it. He really does not stand to profit from that information, which if true is very valuable. (i DO believe sugar is addictive.)

Nanny state run amok or not, in a monarchy the Queen OWNS your child. It's that simple, despite trappings of "democracy."

#9 | Posted by kenx at 2014-09-01 04:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

Your body is constantly producing glucose though so that's not such a viable idea.
For example, your brain uses glucose as its sole source of energy.

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-09-01 04:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

IMO, there's something to going sugar-free when cancer strikes. Cancer cells LOVE sugar.

My last dog was diagnosed with lymphoma in 2011. We got him an oncologist who administered the gold standard chemo protocol for lymphoma. We went with a grain free diet (reducing glucose). He outlived the 12 month prognosis by well over a year and was in complete remission when he died at 13-14 years old.

#11 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2014-09-01 05:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

Boaz, did you even get someone to read the article to you? They didn't take him to a hospital. They were in a hotel.

"We've got loads of these feeds here. We've got iron supplements and we've got Calpol," an over-the-counter medication, King said.
He accuses two doctors at the hospital for not allowing him to seek proton beam treatment outside of Britain, even though he said he was ready to pay for the treatment himself.

"We pleaded with them for proton beam treatment. They looked at me straight in the face and said with his cancer, which is called medulloblastoma, it would have no benefit whatsoever." King said he then looked on the Internet and found sites in the United States, France and Switzerland on proton beam treatment that "said the opposite that it would be beneficial for him." (and we all know if it is on the Internet, it has to be true, right Boaz?)

"Throughout Ashya's admission we have had conversations about the treatment options available to him and we had offered the family access to a second opinion, as well as assistance with organizing treatment abroad."

And you still claim to have been promoted to Major?

#12 | Posted by northguy3 at 2014-09-02 11:26 AM | Reply | Flag:

and the a sugar-free diet will starve it. He really does not stand to profit from that information, which if true is very valuable.

Interesting thought, but explain how low sugar diet tribes and animals develop cancer. And how it existed before we all went sugar crazy.

#13 | Posted by northguy3 at 2014-09-02 11:28 AM | Reply | Flag:

Medicine is an art not a science. Many treatments are not absolute in their curative power. Many are painful and detrimental to quality of life and other aspects of health in the process. Many are grossly over priced and profitable to providers.

Being in a hospital can be a threat to ones health due to hospital acquired infections, etc. There is no hospital or government agency that should have the power to force either children or their parents to keep them as a patient. The not so subtle difference we Americans need to remember is to demand to be considered an empowered customer versus a patient/object to be treated as they deem necessary.

If the Brits don't set them (the hospital medical establishment) straight, we Americans must make sure the medical establishment and US government are set straight.

Interesting well done documentary on adolescent brain tumors. burzynskimovie.com

#14 | Posted by Robson at 2014-09-02 03:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

#13 ~ "explain how low sugar diet tribes and animals develop cancer"

Not an expert on animal diet. My guess is that a high-carb diet, which converts to sugar, would feed a cancer; and i should have remembered that carbohydrates are also totally discouraged to starve a cancer.

One example i know of: the Tasmanian Devil species is being decimated by a facial cancer which is contagious, as the animals are prone to bite each other on the snout & elsewhere.

#15 | Posted by kenx at 2014-09-02 06:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

Authorities did not confirm what charges the couple will face, but say that "cruelty" could be one of them

Gotta love the Brits.

As a dying child I'd rather be taken to France and Spain and spend the last few... moments (?)... of my life living it.

Rather than being stuck in a hospital and dying either way.

The kid is alive, right? So. Obviously. He's not too terminally ill.

#16 | Posted by ClownShack at 2014-09-02 06:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

Interesting thought, but explain how low sugar diet tribes and animals develop cancer. And how it existed before we all went sugar crazy.

#13 | Posted by northguy3

A diet heavy in grains like corn - a big filler in cheap dog food, and 'maze', popular among native tribes - = glucose = sugar

#17 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2014-09-02 10:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

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