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Monday, September 01, 2014

Iraqi security and volunteer forces have broken the siege of Amerli and have entered the town, news that prompted a wave of celebrations across the town which had been besieged by fighters from the terror group ISIS. The breakthrough came after the United States said it carried out airstrikes and dropped humanitarian aid in Amerli to protect an ethnic minority that one official said faced the threat of an "imminent massacre." Amerli is home to many of Iraq's Shiite Turkmen. Australia, France and the UK also participated in the aid drop.

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Bad Obama(tm)

Only 20,000 people trapped for months running out of food and water and surrounded by ISIS.

Hardly worth the effort.

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2014-08-31 11:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

Al-Jazeera says that Iranian jets participated in the attack.

I have no way of knowing if that's true....

#2 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2014-08-31 11:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

#1 the goal is all out war, not helping people:

"We have to have a clear strategy dictated by a policy and that policy has to be we have to defeat ISIS, not contain, not stop, but defeat ISIS, because they are a direct threat over time to the United States of America," McCain said Sunday on CBS' "Face the Nation."

"...defeat" because, "...they are a direct threat over time to the United States of America..."

Stick to your handlers script. The script is for war. Boots on the ground. Defeat the boogeyman. Cos he's on his way to da USA. He's crossing the southern border as we speak. He's got dirty nukes. Be afraid America. Let's bomb Iraq some more.

You do want $3.50 gas, right? We'll, that requires bombs.

#3 | Posted by DeadSpin at 2014-09-01 12:18 AM | Reply | Flag:

-the goal is all out war

You're a frakking moron... as in; apparently you haven't heard of fracking.

I don't mind conspiracy theorists, really, but the newbies are such self-righteous drama majors. This one was a Bush voter, I guarantee it.

We don't need that oil so much anymore, but since your former hero W disbanded the army and the government and decided to nation build, we now owe it to the people of Iraq not to let them be massacred when we can help stop it with air support.

This "boots on the ground" BS is just that.

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2014-09-01 12:28 AM | Reply | Flag:

This "boots on the ground" BS is just that.

Reply noted for next month when you're applauding boots on the ground.

#5 | Posted by DeadSpin at 2014-09-01 12:48 AM | Reply | Flag:

We don't need that oil so much anymore, #4 | POSTED BY CORKY AT 2014-09-01 12:28 AM | FLAG: liar

www.eia.gov

Show Data By:
Product Area
GraphClear Dec-13 Jan-14 Feb-14 Mar-14 Apr-14 May-14 View
History
Total All Countries
5,057 5,243 5,540 5,382 5,618 5,260 1973-2014
Persian Gulf
2,189 2,155 2,154 2,103 2,273 1,916 1993-2014
OPEC*
3,238 3,090 3,271 3,223 3,491 2,953 1993-2014
Algeria
110 61 79 92 69 102 1993-2014
Angola
135 93 114 116 116 178 1993-2014
Ecuador
13 78 182 102 101 63 1993-2014
Iran
0 1993-2014
Iraq
332 249 289 290 321 351 1996-2014
Kuwait
332 474 348 360 342 334 1993-2014
Libya
0 0 0 0 0 0 2004-2014
Nigeria
40 67 8 87 146 6 1995-2014
Qatar
6 1 30 15 1 1 1993-2014
Saudi Arabia
1,519 1,456 1,453 1,443 1,606 1,239 1993-2014
United Arab Emirates
-3 -26 -7 -9 0 -10 1993-2014
Venezuela
754 636 776 727 789 689 1993-2014

#6 | Posted by DeadSpin at 2014-09-01 12:55 AM | Reply | Flag:

This one was a Bush voter, I guarantee it.

Wrong again. I haven't voted since Iran-contra broke.

#7 | Posted by DeadSpin at 2014-09-01 12:57 AM | Reply | Flag:

#6 You do know that America gets it's oil from itself, Canada, and Mexico, right?

Middle East oil is mostly for Europe, China, and Japan. It just so happens to affect affect global prices, though.

W was a moron to think Americas future depended on securing Middle East oil - that is 1970's speak.

#8 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2014-09-01 02:18 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Can the US become independent from foreign oil?

Not likely -- in part because "oil independence" is a bit of a myth.

Right now, the United States imports 40 percent of the oil that it consumes. That number is expected to shrink to about 32 percent in the decades ahead, thanks to increased production and the fact that we're driving more efficient vehicles. But it still means plenty of imports.

Even if we could reduce our imports all the way to zero, however, the United States still wouldn't be totally independent of foreign countries. That's because oil prices are set on the global market. So instability in the Middle East or rapid growth in China would still drive up global oil prices -- leading to price spikes here in the United States.

www.vox.com

#9 | Posted by DeadSpin at 2014-09-01 02:39 AM | Reply | Flag:

For more than 40 years, the U.S. security presence in the region has been rooted in one reality: It is where our oil comes from. The need to keep the oil flowing has meant U.S. administrations cozy up to Saudi Arabia. It has meant the U.S. military keeps aircraft carriers stationed around the Gulf. And it has meant a U.S. willingness to go to war to keep oil shipping lanes open, a position first enunciated by President Jimmy Carter.

"An attempt by any outside force to gain control of the Persian Gulf region will be regarded as an assault on the vital interests of the United States of America," Carter declared in his 1980 State of the Union address. "Such an assault," Carter said, "will be repelled by any means necessary, including military force."

Where The U.S. Gets Its Oil
In 2011, net imports accounted for 45 percent of U.S. petroleum demand. Of that, 52 percent comes from the Western Hemisphere.

The top sources of crude petroleum and oil products: Canada (29 percent), Saudi Arabia (14 percent), Venezuela (11 percent), Nigeria (10 percent) and Mexico (8 percent).

Source: U.S. Energy Information Administration
Credit: Stephanie d'Otreppe/NPR
The Carter Doctrine has guided U.S. policy ever since.

www.npr.org

#10 | Posted by DeadSpin at 2014-09-01 02:41 AM | Reply | Flag:

That's what I thought. About 7% of our total oil comes from Saudi Arabia...

#11 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2014-09-01 03:41 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

W was a moron to think Americas future depended on securing Middle East oil - that is 1970's speak.
#8 | Posted by HeliumRat

PNAC tells a different story.

#12 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-09-01 05:05 AM | Reply | Flag:

We don't need that oil so much anymore,

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2014-09-01 12:28 AM | Reply |

Now that statement is so devoid of knowledgeable acumen that I can't bring myself to even take the time to respond to it.

#13 | Posted by matsop at 2014-09-01 08:58 AM | Reply | Flag:

#4 | Posted by Corky

Interesting statement, especially considering Bush and Cheney made fracking what it is today.

#14 | Posted by wurster at 2014-09-01 01:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

#14

Just the facts, ma'm, not support for fracking.

#15 | Posted by Corky at 2014-09-01 01:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

We don't need that oil so much anymore

We don't need the oil. We need the oil bought and sold in US dollars.

Just like we don't keep our LNG. We sell it and make sure it's bought in dollars.

Dollar dependence > Energy independence

#16 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2014-09-01 05:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

ISIS rules by terror, just like the Taliban, the new Ukrainian Government, Saudi Arabia and the Egyptian military. Its a very big deal when our enemies act this way, but when we or our friends do it, it is unmentionable.

#17 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-09-01 08:35 PM | Reply | Flag:

Why are we bombing anyone? I thought Obama was going to "Sit down and negotiate with our enemies with no pre conditions".

#18 | Posted by shirtsbyeric at 2014-09-02 11:15 AM | Reply | Flag:

Why are we bombing anyone? I thought Obama was going to "Sit down and negotiate with our enemies with no pre conditions".

#18 | Posted by shirtsbyeric

He is negotiating. And the negotiations will continue until morale improves.

One of the unspoken preconditions of sitting down with someone is that you get to keep your head when you negotiate with them.

#19 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-09-02 02:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

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