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The chance of a "megadrought" gripping the Southwest for more than 30 years has increased to 50 percent, according to a new study to be published in the American Meteorological Society's Journal of Climate. The odds of a 10-year drought afflicting the southwestern U.S. have increased to 80 percent, according to the new study by Cornell University, the University of Arizona and the U.S. Geological Survey. Nearly 82 percent of California is experiencing "extreme" drought -- the fourth harshest on a five-level scale measured in a weekly U.S. Drought Monitor report. But roughly 58 percent of the state of facing worse, "exceptional" drought conditions.

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Toby Ault, a Cornell professor of earth and atmospheric sciences and the lead author of the study, called the current drought a preview of "the future in climate change."

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Y'all better get ready to pay $25 per head of lettuce and $30 per avacado.

California is known as the "salad bowl of the nation" and produces about 2/3 of our fruit and vegetables. I'm afraid this drought may have some dire consequences for this country if continues .

#1 | Posted by CalifChris at 2014-08-31 12:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

"California is known as the "salad bowl of the nation" and produces about 2/3 of our fruit and vegetables"

Florida will have to double it's production, and put in the overtime.

But seriously, this is very alarming. I live in New Mexico.

#2 | Posted by shane at 2014-08-31 01:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

But haven't you heard? Temperatures have stopped rising therefore al gore was wrong and climate change is just a giant liberal scam!

All those climate scientists who said droughts and floods would be a part of man made climate change are just greedy con artists chasing those fat government grants so they can buy used 1998 volvos.

#3 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-08-31 02:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

This is deliberate. They have perfected weather control since the late 60's. Just research the incredibly torrential weather systems controlled during the Vietnam war and you have your culprit.

Any vets here that remember that experience?

#4 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2014-08-31 03:44 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

"This is deliberate. They have perfected weather control since the late 60's"

Sure, dude.

#5 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-08-31 03:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

#4 | POSTED BY REDLIGHTROBOT AT 2014-08-31 03:44 PM | FLAG: Yes - Nha Trang and Tan Son Nhut, RVN.

#6 | Posted by MSgt at 2014-08-31 06:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

At some point it stops being a drought and starts being the new climate.

#7 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2014-08-31 08:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

At some point it stops being a drought and starts being the new climate.

#7 | POSTED BY SOMEBODYELSE AT 2014-08-31 08:30 PM | FLAG: Yes, an in hundred years, give or take, we will know.

#8 | Posted by MSgt at 2014-09-01 12:40 AM | Reply | Flag:

I guess SF and the delta smelt could do with a little less water so the central valley could have some.

#9 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-09-01 08:56 AM | Reply | Flag:

A lot of the American South West is desert. Why is this a surprise when you start building cookie cutter houses in the desert and all of a sudden water becomes a problem? That's what you get when you live in a desert.

#10 | Posted by boaz at 2014-09-01 12:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

At some point it stops being a drought and starts being the new climate.
#7 | POSTED BY SOMEBODYELSE

Thats what the Anasazi Indians said....

A lot of the American South West is desert. Why is this a surprise when you start building cookie cutter houses in the desert and all of a sudden water becomes a problem? That's what you get when you live in a desert.
#10 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Don't bother them with reality, they want to believe its the climate "change", and not the fact that we are on the edge of water usage even in high precipitation years, just like the Anasazi went through.

El Niño & La Niña
www.weatherexplained.com

#11 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-09-01 12:20 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Be careful Andrea,

I was beaten up for posting data and facts contrary to the Global Warming religion.

#12 | Posted by boaz at 2014-09-01 12:39 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

"That's what you get when you live in a desert."

Really??? Who woulda ever thunk it???
Just the same I promise to give up my SUV and to start driving an electric Volkswagen or lust ride a bike...as soon as China, India, Brazil, Mexico and other major carbon producers promise to address their emissions. Otherwise, I don't see any purpose in putt-puttin' around in some pedal car or on a skateboard which will have absolutely no effect on climate. It's all a scam to benefit Obama's cronies who look to become richer billionaires with "green" energy once oil, gas, coal and other sources are shut down. NONE of it will affect "climate change" one iota.

#13 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2014-09-01 12:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

All those climate scientists who said droughts and floods would be a part of man made climate change are just greedy con artists chasing those fat government grants

And that's true. It takes a lot of schooling to forecast a desert is going to be hot in 10 years...

#14 | Posted by boaz at 2014-09-01 12:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

as soon as China, India, Brazil, Mexico and other major carbon producers promise to address their emissions.

That's actually a great reason to do something: to mitigate the damage being done globally. It is like saying "I'll quit smoking when everyone else does because second hand smoke is going to harm me too."

It is short-sighted IMHO.

#15 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-09-01 12:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

OR even better since it is where my head is at right now: I'm going to do nothing to fight the cancer killing me because cancer is a natural process and there are so many things other people are doing that contributes to my cancer that it is pointless for me to fight.

#16 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-09-01 12:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

I was beaten up for posting data and facts contrary to the Global Warming religion.

#12 | Posted by boaz

That's what you get for beliving facts.

#17 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-09-01 01:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

Be careful Andrea,

I was beaten up for posting data and facts contrary to the Global Warming religion.

That's what you get for beliving facts.

Oh you poor, victimized darlings...

Actually, that's what you get for posting an article from a British tabloid that has a reputation for dishonestly presenting the topic.

If it was the same on Matsop had posted briefly, it was wrong anyway. And wrong in the same usual ways that deniers tend to be wrong by.

#18 | Posted by jpw at 2014-09-01 03:52 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

British tabloid that has a reputation for dishonestly presenting the topic

It posted a satellite photo from 2012 and 2014. Scientists use such in their findings..

We could do it to show we were losing ice, why cant we do it now that we are gaining ice?

#19 | Posted by boaz at 2014-09-01 04:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

It posted a satellite photo from 2012 and 2014. Scientists use such in their findings..

Which is representative of area. Not volume, which is what matters.

Also, go to the video linked on the last post of yesterdays nooner to see an explanation of why your thinking is flawed.

We could do it to show we were losing ice, why cant we do it now that we are gaining ice?

It isn't so simple as always losing or always gaining. Again, watch the video.

#20 | Posted by jpw at 2014-09-01 04:21 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Also I seem to recall 2012 is the absolute minimum for Arctic ice cover. Go back to sat 1979 and run the pictures through to today if you want to get a better understanding of this dynamic.

Spoiler alert: There's a lot less ice. The multi-year ice which endured for millennia is gone. This ice was easily identifiable because after centuries of pressure the salt is actually squeezed out leaving behind fresh water. You could pick a hunk of ice out of the water and tell if it was seasonal or ancient by sucking on it.

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-09-01 04:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

I got something you can suck on, Snoofy.

I would like to see if this is seasonal. What's to say the ice returns to 1970 levels? What will you say then?

#22 | Posted by boaz at 2014-09-01 05:33 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

We could do it to show we were losing ice, why cant we do it now that we are gaining ice?

#19 | Posted by boaz

Where are you getting your information? I'd take those sites off your browser bookmarks, dude.

Arctic Melt Opens Northwest Passage

Less ice there, expanding melting, melting glaciers around the world, permafrost melting.

And this in the Southern hemisphere:

Melting ice shelves drive rapid Antarctic sea level rise

#23 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2014-09-01 05:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

What's to say the ice returns to 1970 levels? What will you say then?
#22 | Posted by boaz

Oh come on. If your best rebuttal relies on me speculating on how I might react to something hypothetical...

Boaz, have you stopped beating your wife?

#24 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-09-01 07:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

Science Linking Drought to Global Warming Remains Matter of Dispute
www.nytimes.com

This is from February.

#25 | Posted by HeuristicGratis at 2014-09-02 09:17 AM | Reply | Flag:

Obama thinks we CAN control the weather...through a carbon tax.

#26 | Posted by shirtsbyeric at 2014-09-02 11:04 AM | Reply | Flag:

Obama thinks we CAN control the weather...through a carbon tax.

#26 | Posted by shirtsbyeric

If you don't know the difference between weather and climate, you shouldn't comment on either one.

Also if you don't know the difference between influencing something and controlling something, you should go back to 8th grade.

#27 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-09-02 11:41 AM | Reply | Flag:

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