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Federal investigators are focused on one Ferguson, Missouri, police officer who fatally shot an unarmed black teenager, but at least five other police officers and one former officer in the town's 53-member department have been named in civil rights lawsuits alleging the use of excessive force. In four federal lawsuits, including one that is on appeal, and more than a half-dozen investigations over the past decade, colleagues of Darren Wilson's have separately contested a variety of allegations, including killing a mentally ill man with a Taser, pistol-whipping a child, choking and hog-tying a child and beating a man who was later charged with destroying city property because his blood spilled on officers' clothes.

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Police officials from outside Ferguson and plaintiffs' lawyers say the nature of such cases suggests there is a systemic problem within the Ferguson police force. Department of Justice officials said they are considering a broader probe into whether there is a pattern of using excessive force that routinely violates people's civil rights.

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One officer has faced three internal affairs probes and two lawsuits over claims he violated civil rights and used excessive force while working at a previous police department in the mid-2000s. That department demoted him after finding credible evidence to support one of the complaints, and he subsequently was hired by the Ferguson force.

Counting Wilson, whose shooting of Michael Brown on Aug. 9 set off a firestorm of protests and a national debate on race and policing, about 13 percent of Ferguson's officers have faced ­excessive-force investigations. In all but one of the cases, the victims were black. Among the officers involved in the cases, one is African American.


13 percent of the force has faced excessive force investigations. If this isn't a symptom of institutional rot then it will serve as one until something worse comes along....

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2014-08-30 10:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

According to the lawsuit, officers encountered a dazed-looking man walking from behind a building in a residential area. Officer Brian Kaminski ordered 31-year-old Jason Moore to put his hands up and walk toward him, according to the suit, which then alleges that Kaminski fired his Taser prongs into Moore's chest and legs.

A second officer, Michael White, arrived and physically held Moore while Kaminski repeatedly Tasered him with electric currents, the lawsuit said.

Both officers are white. Moore was black.

Moore, who had a mental disorder, suffered a heart attack on the scene and died. His wife, Tina Moore, filed the lawsuit, saying her husband's death was another example of Ferguson police using excessive force.

"There was no need for the officers' excessive use of force in continuing to Taser Jason Moore in order to preserve the peace, maintain order or to overcome any resistance to authority by Jason Moore," says the suit, which names Ferguson Mayor James Knowles and Chief Thomas Jackson.


And many still wonder why the people of Ferguson are fed up with the way their police treat them?

#2 | Posted by tonyroma at 2014-08-30 11:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

Not surprised

#3 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-08-30 11:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

You guys will do anything to smear the reputation of these cops.

#4 | Posted by mysterytoy at 2014-08-31 08:30 AM | Reply | Flag:

#4 You'll do anything to cover the reputation of bad cops.

#5 | Posted by schmanch at 2014-08-31 09:55 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

You guys will do anything to smear the reputation of these cops.

#4 | POSTED BY MYSTERYTOY

Do you seriously think people who think like this belong on any police force or are you just trolling?

#6 | Posted by Lohocla at 2014-08-31 10:29 AM | Reply | Flag:

#2 Then I guess they should get off their entitlement government paid a@@es and first register to vote and second vote
#7 | Posted by gracieamazed

Michael Brown was 18.
The police killed him before he had the opportunity to cast a ballot.

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-08-31 09:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

#8 What about his family? His friends. Look it up. Epic voter failure. And now they bitC@@ that the police chief and Mayor are white. Elected positions. Damn great reason to loot, keeping the man down.

#9 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2014-08-31 09:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

#7 maybe you should control your dog

#10 | Posted by bruceaz at 2014-08-31 09:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

#9 | POSTED BY GRACIEAMAZED

Your kidding yourself to think their votes count. Ever hear of the art of drawing up voting lines.

#11 | Posted by memyselfini at 2014-08-31 09:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

#11 Of course, it's a Black Panther trick. And Bruce STFU.

#12 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2014-08-31 09:25 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

#8 What about his family? His friends. Look it up. Epic voter failure< #9 | Posted by gracieamazed

This is quite a change from the narrative that all blacks vote, and they all vote Democrat.

I wonder what's up with that.

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-08-31 09:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

All blacks vote? What fortune cookie told you that? And that is the issue. They don't vote and loot when things don't work out.

#14 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2014-08-31 09:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

Good advice gravy,take it.

#15 | Posted by bruceaz at 2014-08-31 09:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

Until all police face accountability and peer pressure to be good cops and to avoid abuse charges, this will continue. Cameras will mean nothing unless those responsible for abuse face personal charges and their peers pay a price.

My suggestion is to take all civil settlements without replacement out of the pension fund, instead of out of the taxpayers' bank account. Only personal accountability rectifies bad behavior.

#16 | Posted by Robson at 2014-08-31 09:47 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Until all police face accountability and peer pressure to be good cops and to avoid abuse charges, this will continue.
#16 | Posted by Robson

I agree.

I don't think payouts will fix it.

I think it's going to take a pro-bono lawyer intervening in the arrest and subsequent proceedings of every black male (every poor person ideally). Ours is a criminal justice system that destroys people, especially poor people without lawyers. Shine enough light on these abuses as they're happening and eventually the justice system will be forced to deal with it.

#17 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-08-31 09:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

They don't vote and loot when things don't work out.
#14 | Posted by gracieamazed

So... you think there should be greater voter outreach in black communities, so that they might participate more in their own civic lives, and develop a sense of ownership in their communities?

What's your angle here, or are you just looking for more excuses to scold blacks?

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-08-31 09:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

I'm going to say a word I don't say very often, Gracie.
It might shock you so I hope you're sitting down.
Are you ready?

ACORN.

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-08-31 09:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

So... you think there should be greater voter outreach in black communities, so that they might participate more in their own civic lives, and develop a sense of ownership in their communities?
#18 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Why can people just vote in their interests? Why does there need to be "outreach"?

#21 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-08-31 10:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

Hi Rexty Shackleford

#22 | Posted by bruceaz at 2014-08-31 10:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

I think a big problem is that St. Louis has dozens of small municipalities with their own police forces. Officers who have problems on one force end up getting hired on another.

#23 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2014-08-31 10:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

You do know that the "gentle giant" that was shot in Ferguson has a juvenile arrest record, was part of a 2nd degree murder charge and was part of either the crips or bloods - right?

And - As I posted over a week ago ...the whole focus on Ferguson is just a way to try to gin up votes..just like the Democrats tried to use "he could have been my son" with Trayvon.

www.houstonchronicle.com

And just like Trayvon the truth leaks out - Criminal record, Robbed a store, Beat up the officer, Charged him.

Ut oh....truth does not look like the spin. But that is typical of IRS scandal (Huh..the BlackBerry was destroyed AFTER the investigation started ...and ONLY those who are under investigation had thier PCs crashed...and now it looks as if the emails COULD have been provided?) And Benghazi (You mean they STILL have the survivors under wraps? And the Swap ( Oh...you mean that was ILLEGAL?) or the rewriting of Obamacare so the law takes place AFTER the elections (also illegal?). And the president was told LAST YEAR about ISIS but STILL has no strategy? Except of course on the golf course.

Do you guys not see that EVERY position you take is based upon some sort of lie? Does that not bother you?

#24 | Posted by foshaffer at 2014-08-31 10:59 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

Either Crips or Bloods?You seem to misunderstand the organisations.

#25 | Posted by bruceaz at 2014-08-31 11:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

Why can people just vote in their interests? Why does there need to be "outreach"?
#21 | Posted by AndreaMackris

Is this a serious question?
Lack of awareness, ignorance of opportunity.
Basically, the same reason somebody had to teach you how to read.
Societal investment in raising the young is crucial to the success of many species.

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-08-31 11:23 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Either Crips or Bloods?You seem to misunderstand the organizations.

He's only here to smear the real victim and obfuscate the real crime. His sort has been around for ages. An ugly side of some humans.

#28 | Posted by YAV at 2014-08-31 11:30 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 4

Do you guys not see that EVERY position you take is based upon some sort of lie? Does that not bother you?
#24 | Posted by foshaffer

Systemic racism is not a lie, nor is America's ugly history of race relations. And this is why it's largely irrelevant whether Brown was angel, thug, or somewhere in between. Police behaved after Brown was killed is a big part of this story too; behavior that's since resulted in two cops leaving that force. Police corruption is a real problem that predominantly affects the poor and minorities, from Rampart to Rodney King... and that's just one city.

#29 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-08-31 11:45 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Simple fix. make all law enforcement officers home addresses available publicly. I think that you will find most of them acting politely knowing that anyone can find out where they and their loved ones reside.

#30 | Posted by nastrand2000 at 2014-09-01 01:07 AM | Reply | Flag:

You do know that the "gentle giant" that was shot in Ferguson has a juvenile arrest record, was part of a 2nd degree murder charge and was part of either the crips or bloods - right?

OK, so I stopped following this about a week ago (so excuse me if I'm not up to date on whether the officer was actually assaulted..) because it seemed they were just rehashing the same thing from a week prior, but...

even assuming everything you say is true, the things you list may blow the whole "gentle giant" thing out of the water but none of it justifies being shot multiple times by a police officer if no threat was presented. None.

You're the type of scumbag who claims law and order are important yet will drop those ideals in a heart beat the moment you want to believe someone you find undesirable is guilty.

Tell me, foshaffer, are you really as pure as the driven snow such that if you were shot tomorrow by a police officer they couldn't portray you as a deviant scumbag who was just asking for it?

I'm willing to bet if they hired your favorite Faux News talking heads it'd be a cake walk.

#31 | Posted by jpw at 2014-09-01 03:06 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 4

I'm not sure anyone else has made this observation but isn't the reasoning that cops have a dangerous stressful job and should be allowed extra latitude the exact same concept rejected by the conservatives when children raised with poverty and violence induced stress their entire lives turn to crime?
There is a fairly large segment of police officers who are adrenalin junkies or control freaks.
This was especially true after the Vietnam War where many returning combat veterans opted for police work.
Most police never draw their weapon on duty, fewer still percentage wise ever shoot anyone.
Much like with criminals a small group of recidivists perpetrate most of the crime, but the police have virtual immunity and know it.

#32 | Posted by kingcuke at 2014-09-01 07:08 AM | Reply | Flag:

I certainly understand all of you coming after the entire police force. that's to be expected, but you still don't know the whole story on this MAIN issue, much less other stuff. The way some people and some of you call out racist stuff and all..

but since it's apparently OKAY to make sure we know ALL ABOUT everyone in this case...here's a little picture of the 'gentle giant'...as usual, it's NOT ONE you will be ALLOWED TO SEE except for places like HERE..

www.ragingelephantsradio.com

#33 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-09-01 11:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

It does not justify the shooting but it does puts the officers actions into context. This guy has A history of violence and the video of the store shows his state of mind. So it supports the description of the action taken by the officer.

As to me - I don't have a record, I would not have robbed a store. I would not have been walking in the middle of the street. I would not have attacked the officer.If challenged I would have stopped and did exactly as the officer asked. So I would not have been shot. And without a background there would be nothing to smear me with.

Threatening the officer - running at them after hitting him justifies the shooting. He would be alive today if he did exactly like I or anyone else would have been done.

His actions -not the officers - caused his death . That is clear to anyone and shame on you for trying to put the blame on someone else.

But this has nothing to do with this kids death - it us only about votes in November.

#34 | Posted by foshaffer at 2014-09-02 09:21 AM | Reply | Flag:

It does not justify the shooting but it does puts the officers actions into context. This guy has A history of violence and the video of the store shows his state of mind. So it supports the description of the action taken by the officer.

As to me - I don't have a record, I would not have robbed a store. I would not have been walking in the middle of the street. I would not have attacked the officer.If challenged I would have stopped and did exactly as the officer asked. So I would not have been shot. And without a background there would be nothing to smear me with.

Threatening the officer - running at them after hitting him justifies the shooting. He would be alive today if he did exactly like I or anyone else would have been done.

His actions -not the officers - caused his death . That is clear to anyone and shame on you for trying to put the blame on someone else.

But this has nothing to do with this kids death - it us only about votes in November.

#35 | Posted by foshaffer at 2014-09-02 09:21 AM | Reply | Flag:

#33 AFKA -- you know that's not Brown, right? That's a photo a police officer somewhere made up, in anticipation that there would be similar photos of Brown cropping up as the story unfolded. There is no published photo of Brown posing with a gun.

#36 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2014-09-02 12:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

obfuscate the real crime. His sort has been around for ages. An ugly side of some humans.

#28 | Posted by YAV

The real crime here seems to be felony assault on a police officer. I guess we'll find out soon enough. In the mean time, you may very well end up being the one doing the obfuscating. LOL

#37 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2014-09-02 12:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

Police in Charlotte, North Carolina, arrested a black LGBT activist and former state Senate candidate Monday, saying that he violated a city ordinance by distributing literature about voting rights and candidates on parked cars.

The arrest of Ty Turner, who was attending a Moral Mondays-affiliated rally at a park in Charlotte, was particularly poignant given that the event was held to condemn the state's record on voting rights and racial profiling.

#38 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-09-02 02:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

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