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Monday, August 25, 2014

Sam Wang, The New Yorker: To get a look at whether a Republican governor's policy stances matter, I re-plotted some of the relevant polling data. This time, I used two symbols to represent a governor's stance on Medicaid expansion (and other aspects of the implementation of the Affordable Care Act) ... According to these data points, Republican governors who bucked their party's stance and accepted the policy are faring better with voters -- in these races, an average of 8.5 percentage points better.

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The Republicans Susana Martinez, of New Mexico, John Kasich, of Ohio, and Rick Snyder, of Michigan, look as strong as they did when they were first elected. All three accepted the Affordable Care Act and its Medicaid expansion. Evidently, Obamacare is not the political liability it was once thought to be.

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In places like East Kentucky where thousands more now have medical coverage it's clearly an asset.

#1 | Posted by Tor at 2014-08-25 06:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

ACA must be working, we're not getting the usual 6 scary horror threads per day on the back page.

#2 | Posted by REDIAL at 2014-08-25 07:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

All joking aside, the answer is 'yes' if you otherwise would not have access to decent health insurance. Of course it is an asset to the candidate who supported it.

#3 | Posted by moder8 at 2014-08-25 07:22 PM | Reply | Flag:

In Utah ------ Mormon sheep do as they're told and vote as a block.

#4 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-08-26 07:24 AM | Reply | Flag:

#4: Umm, isn't that what a particular "block" of voters did when electing our current president?

#5 | Posted by Daniel at 2014-08-26 07:28 AM | Reply | Flag:

What percentage of Americans are covered by it? Shouldn't we wait until all of Obama's delays are over to judge it? Shouldn't we ask the people who were previously covered by their employers for their take? Shouldn't we ask the taxpayers who will pay for the subsidies?

#6 | Posted by wisgod at 2014-08-26 07:35 AM | Reply | Flag:

Shouldn't we find all sorts of excuses to be against it because that's what good Republicans do?

#7 | Posted by danni at 2014-08-26 09:02 AM | Reply | Flag:

#7
Take nine parts orange juice and one part arsenic, stir gently. Mmm, good orange juice.

#8 | Posted by Daniel at 2014-08-26 09:31 AM | Reply | Flag:

In places like East Kentucky where thousands more now have medical coverage it's clearly an asset.

#1 | Posted by Tor

This is a true statement but, 80% OF ACA signups are for medicaid.

#9 | Posted by Daniel at 2014-08-26 09:37 AM | Reply | Flag:

ACA is a campaign disaster for Dems.

None of them are going to campaign on it and the Republicans are going to amp up their anti-ACA ads pretty quickly.

#10 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-08-26 04:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

ACA is a campaign disaster for Dems.

None of them are going to campaign on it and the Republicans are going to amp up their anti-ACA ads pretty quickly.

Posted by JeffJ at 2014-08-26 04:21 PM | Reply

Good luck with that.

#11 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-08-26 04:23 PM | Reply | Flag:

According to polls, disapproval for ACA is at an all-time high, Larry.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see how said polling is going to affect campaign strategies in the midterms.

#12 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-08-26 04:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

www.msnbc.com

Watching the tide turn quickly on ‘Obamacare'

Republican campaigns are moving away from anti-ACA advertising; Republican candidates are increasingly reluctant to say whether they intend to take ACA benefits away from constituents; other Republican candidates are grudgingly conceding that there's "no doubt" the ACA has helped people; and we now see Republican officials embracing key elements of the ACA they used to reject.

#13 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-08-26 04:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

www.msnbc.com

Remember when Republican campaign officials were absolutely certain that running against "Obamacare" would be their first, second, and third priorities in the 2014 midterms? Well, forget it.

#14 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-08-26 04:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

In an obvious attempt to help the Democrats preserve their Senate majority, the "reporters" of the legacy news media have been hard at work promoting a new Obamacare meme. The Los Angeles Times assisted in the launch of this propaganda campaign early this month with a piece titled, "Obamacare loses some of its campaign punch for Republicans." The evidence provided by the article's authors in support of this claim consists primarily of a July study involving GOP advertising: "The percentage of broadcast television ads focused on Obamacare dipped in the spring, according to a study conducted by Kantar Media/CMAG."

This unremarkable fact has since been gleefully reported by countless "news" outlets as if it constitutes a tectonic shift in the dynamics of the midterm election cycle. The Washington Post parroted the party line thus: "Obamacare disappearing as major issue." Salon breathlessly announced, "GOP surrenders on Obamacare." Bloomberg chimed in with a piece titled, "Obamacare Losing Power as Campaign Weapon in Ad Battles." The latter provides a helpful quote from a doubtlessly objective political science professor, Andrew Taylor of North Carolina State University, who opines that Obamacare "isn't the kind of issue it was."

The voters didn't get that memo. They revile the health care law more than ever


spectator.org

#15 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-08-26 04:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

Larry,

I recently (within the last couple of days) read an article that thoroughly debunked the claims being made by the sources you are linking.

I am trying to find it, but have had no luck so far.

#16 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-08-26 04:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

I recently (within the last couple of days) read an article that thoroughly debunked the claims being made by the sources you are linking.

I am trying to find it, but have had no luck so far.

Posted by JeffJ at 2014-08-26 04:40 PM | Reply

I think you're BSing Me Jeff.

#17 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-08-26 04:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

Found it.

Somewhat more convincingly, Przybyla offers this bit of evidence: "Those seeking to unseat the U.S. Senate incumbent in North Carolina," she writes, "have cut in half the portion of their top issue ads citing Obamacare, a sign that the party's favorite attack against Democrats is losing its punch." Then again, that's quite an extrapolation, as well – especially when you consider that in her very own story Przybyla tells us that GOP groups have plans to re-focus on ACA as soon as premium increases for 2015 are announced. Like any issue, the political impact of Obamacare is hitched to events surrounding the law. An ebb is not a capitulation. And there will be more Obamacare events.

Here's another snippet:

And if you've heard about the Obamacare retreat before, it's because it's nothing new. Politico led the way with a story in 2013, "GOP quietly backing away from Obamacare" and similar predictions of the pending surrender on ACA go back years. And yet here we are.

thefederalist.com

#18 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-08-26 04:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

#17

Still think I am BSing you?

#19 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-08-26 04:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

Still think I am BSing you?

#19 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-08-26 04:49 PM | Reply | Flag

Yep because it didn't thoroughly debunk anything from my sourced links.

#20 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-08-26 04:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Debunked" is over-stating it.

Sorry about that.

It provides much-needed context to this new (re-tread) meme being promulgated by the MSM.

#21 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-08-26 04:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

Larry,

I construed your comment as you thought I was BSing you that I read such an article and was trying to find it.

BTW - look at my time stamp on #21. I recognized that Debunk was an inaccurate term before you made your comment (we posted at the same time).

#22 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-08-26 04:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

It's all good.

#23 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-08-26 05:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

Still think I am BSing you?

Of course you are. The premium hikes predicted are lower than estimated and some states will have LOWER premiums in 2015 than they are in 2014. States with GOP leadership that embraced Medicaid expansion enjoy wide support for re-election and those who rejected it (as in NC, who have a GOP mayor that walked to Washington, DC, to protest the insanity of the governor and legislature while a direct death has occurred because a rural hospital closed - and a heart attack victim died waiting for a helicopter to travel 84 miles to the closest treatment - because the expansion was rejected) are losing or in dogfights in their contests.

#24 | Posted by tonyroma at 2014-08-26 05:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

Tony,

The issue is whether or not ACA is a winning campaign issue for Dems in 2014 and whether or not anti-ACA is a winning campaign issue for the GOP.

The fact that the GOP has scaled back its ads (apparently waiting for the 2015 premium increases to be announced) but is still campaigning against it and no Dems that I am aware of are currently campaigning for it, tells me this issue is still a winner for the GOP. Polling backs this up.

#25 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-08-26 05:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

An asset? Well the first 3 letters are right.

#26 | Posted by sames1 at 2014-08-26 06:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

and no Dems that I am aware of are currently campaigning for it

Only the most embattled one from the reddest of states (a state that rejected the expansion):

Pryor touts vote for O-Care in new ad

#27 | Posted by tonyroma at 2014-08-26 08:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

More good news Jeff:
Health insurance premiums for plans sold under Obamacare in Arkansas are projected to decrease by an average of 2 percent next year, Gov. Mike Beebe's office announced Tuesday.

#28 | Posted by tonyroma at 2014-08-26 09:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

More good news Jeff:
Health insurance premiums for plans sold under Obamacare in Arkansas are projected to decrease by an average of 2 percent next year, Gov. Mike Beebe's office announced Tuesday.

#28 | Posted by tonyroma

Jeff is not impressed.

They only celebrate bad news (and any potential or just made up bad news) these days.

The fact that the GOP has scaled back its ads (apparently waiting for the 2015 premium increases to be announced)...

#29 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-08-27 01:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

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