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Monday, August 25, 2014

Bloomberg: The chemical triclosan has been linked to cancer-cell growth and disrupted development in animals. Regulators are reviewing whether it's safe to put in soap, cutting boards and toys. Consumer companies are phasing it out. Minnesota voted in May to ban it in many products. At the same time, millions of Americans are putting it in their mouths every day, by way of a top-selling toothpaste that uses the antibacterial chemical to head off gum disease -- Colgate-Palmolive's Total.

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Total is safe, Colgate says, citing the rigorous Food and Drug Administration process that led to the toothpaste's 1997 approval as an over-the-counter drug.

A closer look at that application process, however, reveals that some of the scientific findings Colgate put forward to establish triclosan's safety in toothpaste weren't black and white -- and weren't, until this year, available to the public.

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Among other things, the Colgate financed study found that after six or more months of use, fluoride toothpaste containing triclosan provided:

22% reduction in plaque and gingivitis as compared with traditional fluoride toothpaste
41% reduction in plaque severity as compared with traditional fluoride toothpaste
48% reduction in gum bleeding as compared with traditional fluoride toothpaste.

(it's a miracle drug") LOL

#1 | Posted by SammyAZ_RI at 2014-08-25 08:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

Rand Paul says the free market will decide if cancer-causing toothpaste should succeed or not.

It's not the government's job to tell corporations how they can or can't poison people.

Consumers just need to fully research every ingredient of the hundreds of products they use every week. Cause we all have time for that, ya know?

#2 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-08-25 10:15 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 5

Of course. Why not. Anything to wipe the boomers off the face of the earth.

#3 | Posted by coyote at 2014-08-25 10:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

#2

Very NW

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2014-08-25 10:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Rand Paul says the free market will decide if cancer-causing toothpaste should succeed or not."

I don't exactly agree with him, but in his defense, his idea of government wouldn't have the FDA and congress shielding these companies from law suits from the people who use the products. In some ways, he would be right. We could just sue them for poisoning us, and many of them would be afraid to put these chemicals in products because they would get sued into oblivion.

#5 | Posted by LEgregius at 2014-08-26 12:30 AM | Reply | Flag:

#5

Soooo.... first people have to be poisoned, then there can be testing and regulation.

What a concept.

#6 | Posted by Corky at 2014-08-26 12:36 AM | Reply | Flag:

Without the body count, how can we know anything? Now to eliminate the department that counts the bodies....

#7 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2014-08-26 12:50 AM | Reply | Flag:

We could just sue them for poisoning us
#5 | Posted by LEgregius

What would you say is the #1 thing a corpse should look for in a lawyer?
Communication skills such as seance or the Ouija board seems paramount.

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-08-26 12:53 AM | Reply | Flag:

I don't exactly agree with him, but in his defense, his idea of government wouldn't have the FDA and congress shielding these companies from law suits from the people who use the products. In some ways, he would be right. We could just sue them for poisoning us, and many of them would be afraid to put these chemicals in products because they would get sued into oblivion.

#5 | Posted by LEgregius

So that happens...AFTER the product kills people, right?

#9 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-08-26 01:12 AM | Reply | Flag:

Consumers just need to fully research every ingredient of the hundreds of products they use every week. Cause we all have time for that, ya know?

Even if you have the time to research all ingredients, cancer can be a tough link.

Tougher, still, in the libertarian dream world where we're bombarded all day every day with whatever garbage filler/"active ingredient" companies use to make short term profits.

I guess that has lead to an epiphany for me: Libertarians are so certain their world view works because their world view is so f---ed up their brains just shut down due to information overload and everything seems ggrrrooooooovvvvvyyyyyyyy.

#10 | Posted by jpw at 2014-08-26 03:09 AM | Reply | Flag:

In some ways, he would be right. We could just sue them for poisoning us, and many of them would be afraid to put these chemicals in products because they would get sued into oblivion.

But without a major overhaul of the litigation system it would become an insurmountable morass.

It's far too easy to sue and people are far too stupid/dishonest to make a litigation-based system viable.

On topic, are all Bloomberg articles bold-faced titles followed by bumper sticker level information? God it was so awful I stopped reading and, honestly, wonder how much it was hyped to get readers.

I say for me, the jury is out and more information is needed.

#11 | Posted by jpw at 2014-08-26 03:21 AM | Reply | Flag:

Welcome to the world of 1800 where companies are totally free to push their snake-oil 'medicines'.

Alcohol, cocaine, lead, and all other undisclosed ingredients people think will cure what ails them or others, are A O K. Caveat emptor after all.

#12 | Posted by 88120rob at 2014-08-26 05:39 AM | Reply | Flag:

Welcome to the world of 1800 where companies are totally free to push their snake-oil 'medicines'.

Maybe I'm naive but I think we're far from that.

If we were there righties wouldn't be [...]ing about it.

#13 | Posted by jpw at 2014-08-26 05:54 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

#2 Except in this case, the government DID say it was ok to poison people, which, as Legregius points out, absolves Colgate of any wrongdoing. Sounds like the government did pick winners and losers, doesn't it?

#14 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2014-08-26 07:20 AM | Reply | Flag:

I have never been able to stand Colgate - it is just disgusting to me. Wonder if that is why? I have tried it maybe a dozen times over the years and end up tossing it after a couple days each time.

#15 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2014-08-26 09:12 AM | Reply | Flag:

Total is safe, Colgate says,

Well that wraps that up.

Move along. Nothing to see here.

#16 | Posted by 726 at 2014-08-26 11:27 AM | Reply | Flag:

Among the pages were studies showing fetal bone malformations in mice and rats. Colgate said the findings weren't relevant.

Of course not. Humans don't have bones.

#17 | Posted by 726 at 2014-08-26 11:31 AM | Reply | Flag:

Colgate? No thank you. I'm a Crest sort of fella, but I almost attended Colgate (college) on a hockey scholarship back nearly 50 years ago. I settled on Michigan Tech. I played with Tony Esposito. Anyone remember him? I can no longer skate now. Too much arthritis. Don't grow old.

#18 | Posted by scalawag at 2014-08-26 11:42 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Don't grow old."

Aches and pains too but I think I will still choose to grow old as the alternative is much worse. As W.C. Fields has on his tombstone, "On the whole, I'd rather be in Philadelphia."

#19 | Posted by danni at 2014-08-26 11:58 AM | Reply | Flag:

We switched to Toms toothpaste. they're soap is good too.

#20 | Posted by DeadSpin at 2014-08-26 01:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

This was my toothpaste for years. Just saying.

#21 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-08-26 05:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

We switched to Toms toothpaste. they're soap is good too.

#20 | Posted by DeadSpin at 2014-08-26 01:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

en.wikipedia.org

In 2006, a controlling 84% stake in Tom's of Maine was purchased by Colgate-Palmolive for USD $100,000,000;[4] the Chappells own the remaining sixteen percent. The terms of the purchase stipulate that the policies and company culture of the Tom's of Maine brand, a crucial part of what makes the overall company so valuable, will be retained.[4]

#22 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-08-26 05:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

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