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Saturday, August 16, 2014

Police in Ferguson, Missouri, once charged a black man with destruction of property for bleeding on their uniforms while four of them allegedly beat him. "On and/or about the 20th day of Sept. 20, 2009 at or near 222 S. Florissant within the corporate limits of Ferguson, Missouri, the above named defendant did then and there unlawfully commit the offense of 'property damage' to wit did transfer blood to the uniform," reads the charge sheet. "[N]othing new can faze me about Ferguson," said James Schottel, an attorney who has filed a civil suit on behalf of the man, a 52-year-old welder named Henry Davis who had been arrested in a case of mistaken identity.

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What about those lies? Seems the accomplice to the crime, the same man with Brown when he was shot, may have confessed that they were the ones who robbed the store.

Curious.

#1 | Posted by HeuristicGratis at 2014-08-16 10:59 AM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

What about them? Unrelated.

One shows kids being stupid. One shows systemic failure of the criminal justice system. The mere fact alone the cops in this story - the subject of this t thread - were not charged with assault, battery, false imprisonment and perjury shows why even if they are not lying in other cases, no one can really know. They're part of a whole system that has no credibility.

#2 | Posted by zeropointnrg at 2014-08-16 11:51 AM | Reply | Flag:

Ferguson kid has history of crime

See how that works?

#3 | Posted by cookfish at 2014-08-16 12:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

#3

People who can't tell the difference between one kid and an entire police force.

See how that works?

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2014-08-16 12:31 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

No headline about the riots/looting from last night? I thought the presence of the Police is what 'sparked' the riots in the first place. Looks like when ever the police are not around, the looters take over. Must be more 'average' teenagers produced from the black culture.

#5 | Posted by RobThomas at 2014-08-16 12:35 PM | Reply | Flag:

One shows kids being stupid. One shows systemic failure of the criminal justice system.

#2 | POSTED BY ZEROPOINTNRG AT 2014-08-16 11:51 AM | REPLY | FLAG

The DA hasn't charged any one because he/she is gathering/considering the evidence. Unlike you.

#6 | Posted by RobThomas at 2014-08-16 12:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

People who can't tell the difference between one kid and an entire police force.
See how that works?
#4 | POSTED BY CORKY AT 2014-08-16 12:31 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

People who can't tell the difference between once police officer with an unblemished record and an entire police force.

See how that works.

Leftist thrive by ignoring the individual and categorizing people into groups. It is the calling card of the DEM party for the past 40 years. How has it worked out for those groups they labeled 'minority'.

#7 | Posted by RobThomas at 2014-08-16 12:41 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

once police officer with an unblemished record

Let's be honest about this "unblemished record" thing: it doesn't mean he never did abuse before, it means he wasn't caught or charged.

I got pulled over the other day for running a red light. It was iffy (I say it was yellow, but so be it). The cop ran my license and told me if it came back clean, he wouldn't write me a ticket. My driving record remains unblemished, but I did run the red light.

#8 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-08-16 12:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

- How has it worked out for those groups they labeled 'minority'.

Great over the last 50 years, comparatively speaking.

Not that that had anything to do with the absurd notion that only Dems ever label anything or anyone.

You might have missed the thread article, which is about the police force, not about the one officer.

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2014-08-16 12:49 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Saying one has an unblemished record while serving on a corrupt force is hardly indicative of his past behavior. If his force condones or encourages the harassment of random innocent black teens, he's not going to have a record of discipline.

#10 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2014-08-16 12:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

#7 "Leftist thrive by ignoring the individual and categorizing people into groups".

Says the Righty who is categorizing people into groups.

#11 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2014-08-16 12:51 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 3

#8 | POSTED BY KANREI AT 2014-08-16 12:44 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

Honesty says his record is unblemished. Post modern logic attempts to apply 'yeah buts' to his record do not matter.

#12 | Posted by RobThomas at 2014-08-16 12:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

- How has it worked out for those groups they labeled 'minority'.
Great over the last 50 years, comparatively speaking.

#9 | POSTED BY CORKY AT 2014-08-16 12:49 PM | REPLY | FLAG

Yah right.

#13 | Posted by RobThomas at 2014-08-16 12:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

#13

You may have missed the first part of the last century, but that is no excuse not learning about it.

Or perhaps you are just one of those rwingers who believe slavery and it's aftermath were, "not so bad".

#14 | Posted by Corky at 2014-08-16 12:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

Honesty says his record is unblemished

I said as much.

Post modern logic attempts to apply 'yeah buts' to his record do not matter.

Spin what I said how you wish. What I said is there in post 8 for all to see what I really said and what it meant.

#15 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-08-16 01:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

Honesty says his record is unblemished

I said as much.

Post modern logic attempts to apply 'yeah buts' to his record do not matter.

Spin what I said how you wish. What I said is there in post 8 for all to see what I really said and what it meant.

#16 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-08-16 01:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

Sorry for the double post. Either I have a stutter today or IE thought I made a really good point.

#17 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-08-16 01:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

Honesty says his record is unblemished.
#12 | Posted by RobThomas

That's a great "The Government says it so it must be true" attitude you have there.

#18 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2014-08-16 01:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

an unblemished record and an entire police force.

#7 | POSTED BY ROBTHOMAS AT 2014-08-16 12:41 PM | FLAG: didn't read the article

They actually weren't keeping records in the first few years he served. Who knows how good the record keeping is now?

#19 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2014-08-16 01:23 PM | Reply | Flag:

Obligatory joke:

How many Ferguson cops does it take to throw a suspect down a stairwell?

None; he fell.

#20 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-08-16 01:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

Must be more 'average' teenagers produced from the black culture.

#5 | POSTED BY ROBTHOMAS AT 2014-08-16 12:35 PM | FLAG:

Leftist thrive by ignoring the individual and categorizing people into groups. It is the calling card of the DEM party for the past 40 years. How has it worked out for those groups they labeled 'minority'.

#7 | POSTED BY ROBTHOMAS AT 2014-08-16 12:41 PM | FLAG:

You dirty leftist.

#21 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2014-08-16 01:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

Black leaders need to tell people that if you're getting arrested, don't fight back, or argue. That's what you have courts for. It's what they all do when they protest some outrage and want to be arrested for show.

As I told my son, call us and we'll come and get you out, and then fix it later. It's not worth getting hurt or worse. Worked well when it did happen 9 years ago and kept him eligible for their diversion program.

#22 | Posted by 88120rob at 2014-08-16 01:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

8Rob, is your son black? They have just as good reason not to trust the courts as they do not to trust the Police.

#23 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2014-08-16 02:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

White people "mouth off" at police all the time. Rarely do they end up dead as a result.

#24 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2014-08-16 03:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

All authoritarians have a history of abuse of those not in authority. That said the USA media happily diverts any and all attention from the Israeli/Zionist/Nazis killing innocent kids.

The 24/7 Ferguson situation has relevance but it is mostly about keeping the Israelis off the news. Ask Wolf Blitzer.

#25 | Posted by Robson at 2014-08-16 07:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

AFTER.... reports come out the department has history of abuse....

but NO NO NO NO NO....you MAY NOT report the TRUTH about the character and alleged activities of the kid.....

T.L.B.

#26 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-08-17 12:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

"But however lax the department's system and however contradictory the officers' testimony, a federal magistrate ruled that the apparent perjury about the "property damage" charges was too minor to constitute a violation of due process and that Davis' injuries were de minimis -- too minor to warrant a finding of excessive force. Never mind that a CAT scan taken after the incident confirmed that he had suffered a concussion."

Even after the lie is proven nothing is done. But people should just trust the system.

#27 | Posted by Sully at 2014-08-17 12:49 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

White people "mouth off" at police all the time. Rarely do they end up dead as a result.

#24 | POSTED BY WHODAMAN

How often do black people end up dead as a result? Also seems rare.

#28 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2014-08-17 01:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

Not that rare. There have been at least three in the last month.

The killing of Michael Brown by police in Ferguson, Missouri, was no anomaly: As we reported yesterday, Brown is one of at least four unarmed black men who died at the hands of police in the last month alone. There are many more cases from years past. As Jeffrey Mittman, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union's Missouri chapter put it in a statement of condolence to Brown's family, "Unarmed African-American men are shot and killed by police at an alarming rate. This pattern must stop."

In Oakland, California, the NAACP reported that out of 45 officer-involved shootings in the city between 2004 and 2008, 37 of those shot were black. None were white.

www.motherjones.com

#29 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2014-08-17 01:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

Why are you counting Brown as one who died for 'mouthing off?' He committed two felonies -- a strong-armed robbery and an attempt to disarm an officer.

#30 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2014-08-17 03:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

37 of those shot were black. None were white.

#29 | POSTED BY WHODAMAN

How many were shot for just 'mouthing off?' That was your premise.

#31 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2014-08-17 03:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Police in Ferguson, Missouri, once charged a black man with destruction of property for bleeding on their uniforms while four of them allegedly beat him. "

Sounds like the LAPD.

#32 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-08-17 03:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

www.ijreview.com
Maybe because they are white nobody cares because they cannot make it into a racist issue. Maybe because the white guys no better than to run at a police officer AFTER he has told you to freeze. And you ESPECIALLY should not continue to run at them after they fired warning shots. Couldn't help but notice that the main thread on this was taken down after this video appeared putting a lie to all the prior posts condemning the police and supporting the rioters. Yet again we find Obama supporting the lawless and find that Holder tried to keep the store video from being played.
And all of you falling right in behind like good little comrades. If the press and the liberals are saying it. Well it must be true!

Since the other thread was killed after I posted this on the black teen biased link I thought I would post it here. The big monster charged the officer and continued after the warning shots. All the bull posted against the police and the fact it was justified.

#33 | Posted by foshaffer at 2014-08-17 03:24 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

#31 | Posted by DixvilleNotch

No, the point is about being shot while unarmed. There is a process for handling suspects that involves arrest and trial (due process). Killing suspects who have not been convicted of anything is not supposed to be part of the deal. "Strong Arm" robbery is not a capital offense, and summary execution without a trial is not justified under the constitution. Since he was unarmed, to whom exactly was he a mortal threat? Even if he had struggled for the gun at some point, it's pretty clear that he wasn't in possession of it when he was shot. Shooting an unarmed suspect 8 times is pretty hard to justify, in my book.

#34 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2014-08-17 03:27 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

I can only read what you write:

White people "mouth off" at police all the time. Rarely do they end up dead as a result.

#24 | POSTED BY WHODAMAN

#35 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2014-08-17 03:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

"...and continued after the warning shots"

Warning shots? Is that what the police call it when they miss?

#36 | Posted by REDIAL at 2014-08-17 03:35 PM | Reply | Flag:

Even Rand Paul said something similar:

"If I had been told to get out of the street as a teenager, there would have been a distinct possibility that I might have smarted off. But, I wouldn't have expected to be shot."

#37 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2014-08-17 03:47 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

"Even" Rand Paul. That's funny.

Sounds like he was commenting on a case where a teenager may have gotten shot for mouthing off. That's not the case with Mike Brown.

#38 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2014-08-17 04:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

At least, it's not the case with Mike Brown before Rand Paul knew Mike Brown committed two violent felonies.

#39 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2014-08-17 04:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

Even if he had struggled for the gun at some point, it's pretty clear that he wasn't in possession of it when he was shot. Shooting an unarmed suspect 8 times is pretty hard to justify, in my book.

#34 | POSTED BY WHODAMAN

Just back in May the State of Missouri amended the law that makes disarming a police officer a felony. Whereas the law previously did not define the weapon, under the amendment the definition now includes the officer's taser, pepper spray, tactical baton or other intermediate weapon on an officer's belt.

"Statistics show that when a weapon is taken from an officer it is usually used on the officer, and unfortunately those occasions are often fatal," said Dale Roberts, the Executive Director of Columbia Police Officer's Association.

www.komu.com

Going after a cop's weapon raises the ante in your "tussle" significantly. It is treated similarly to trying to kill a cop. That provides a lot of justification.

Don't try to kill cops.

#40 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2014-08-17 04:21 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Even if he had struggled for the gun at some point, it's pretty clear that he wasn't in possession of it when he was shot. Shooting an unarmed suspect 8 times is pretty hard to justify, in my book.

#34 | POSTED BY WHODAMAN AT 2014-08-17 03:27 PM | REPLY | FLAG

Monday morning QB and expert. Ever been bummed rushed by a guy who goes about 6'5" and 280lbs and just assaulted you? I haven't so I don't try to tell the guy what he should have done. He had about 2 secs to decide.

#41 | Posted by RobThomas at 2014-08-17 04:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

"If I had been told to get out of the street as a teenager, there would have been a distinct possibility that I might have smarted off. But, I wouldn't have expected to be shot."

#37 | POSTED BY WHODAMAN AT 2014-08-17 03:47 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

Absurd. I wonder if Paul ever tried to prevent an officer from exiting his car. I wonder if Paul ever assaulted an officer. I wonder if Paul ever attempted to take an officers weapon.

The story about being shot over "smarting off" has been debunked by eyewitnesses who were captured on video/audio talking about the struggle between the officer and the guy who made a big mistake.

#42 | Posted by RobThomas at 2014-08-17 04:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

I cannot believe after seeing the video of the eye witness and hearing their description anyone would still be supporting the idea that it was unjustified. Notice how Obama has not come forward now that the truth is known.

#43 | Posted by foshaffer at 2014-08-17 06:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

He clearly didn't take the officer's weapon because the officer shot him with it! Eight shots? Really? Because he was BIG? You really want to live in a country where cops can be judge, jury and executioner? But you love the Constitution, right?

#44 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2014-08-17 10:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

As I said in an earlier thread when the usual suspects were rushing to justice that we should wait a little longer for the whole story of this sordid affair. I also made the comment that one should not put the credulity of Brown's friends on a high plain. Once again, those that rushed to judgement have egg on their visages (this is really getting monotonous)and it should be remembered in the future when similar cases again arise.
Having said that; I would posit that this nation has to start to look at what our law enforcement has become and what it should become in the future. It seems to me that there has to be a better way of handling some of these events especially when there are more then one law enforcement individual present. I can understand a single officer reacting with deadly force when he is out-manned and legitimately in danger of losing his life. However, when you have multiple officers present and they lose control, something is inherently sick in the bowels of that respective police force. Then you have police forces receiving military cast-off equipment and that certainly sends the wrong message to police forces that are already burdened with ultra high levels of testosterone.

#45 | Posted by matsop at 2014-08-17 10:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

No...but if an officer tells you to FREEZE and you turn around and CHARGE at him he has every right to shoot you. Hell the store clerk should have shot him when he stole the cigars and attacked him.

Do YOU want to live in a country where the criminals can attack the police and they can do nothing? Where THEY have all the rights?

You break the law you pay for it.

#46 | Posted by foshaffer at 2014-08-17 10:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

www.nytimes.com

Autopsy report is out.

6 shots
From the front
Shots to the arms indicate he did not have his hands up

Read if for yourself. Tox Report is missing, or maybe hasnt been released yet.

#47 | Posted by aescal at 2014-08-18 01:14 AM | Reply | Flag:

and the youtube video mentioned by the NYT also has a witness who, at the 6:30ish mark (sounds like an older gentleman) saying MB charged the officer.

Right after he says
"police dropped him, son."

www.youtube.com

#48 | Posted by aescal at 2014-08-18 01:17 AM | Reply | Flag:

Shots to the arms indicate he did not have his hands up

Because you say so?

HAHA! We waited this long for the autopsy report. We can wait for the full culmination of evidence to be presented.

And Tox Report won't have any bearing on whether the police officer shot an unarmed individual six times. So far the evidence supports eye witness reports. Let's see if that trend continues.

#49 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-08-18 01:20 AM | Reply | Flag:

Not one shot in the back.

#50 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2014-08-18 01:34 AM | Reply | Flag:

How convenient that Ferguson has multiple armored vehicles and all manner of military style equipment, but dont't have cheap dashcams installed in their cruisers to record their interactions with the public. Had there been one in this case the recordings would have cleared up many of the questions surrounding this shooting.

BTW, the two teenagers weren't walking down the middle of a busy street. It was a residential street.

#51 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2014-08-18 01:40 AM | Reply | Flag:

Those 4 in the arm weren't very effective.

#52 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2014-08-18 02:29 AM | Reply | Flag:

Video of eyewitness who was 15-20 feet away on the driver's side of the cruiser

www.msnbc.com

#53 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2014-08-18 02:31 AM | Reply | Flag:

Autopsy Diagram:

static01.nyt.com

Witnesses say he was facing the cop with his hands in the air and the cop kept firing. Nothing on this diagram runs contradictory to his arms being in the air.

The cop fired multiple times when Brown's hands were in the air.

#54 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2014-08-18 02:44 AM | Reply | Flag:

Nothing on this diagram runs contradictory to his arms being in the air.
The cop fired multiple times when Brown's hands were in the air.

#54 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY

LOL Now you're an internet Medical Examiner.

Turns out nothing in this diagram runs contradictory to Brown bumrushing the cop after Brown turned around.

Which of the bullets caused the five wounds the actual Examiner mentioned, AU?

"We need more information," says Baden, the real-life Examiner with 50 years experience. You know, the guy that made the diagram.

"What you mean we?" says AmericanUnity, Examiner at Large.

Don't go changing, AU.

*ROTFLMAO*

#55 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2014-08-18 02:57 AM | Reply | Flag:

"This one here looks like his head was bent downward," Baden said, indicating the wound at the very top of Mr. Brown's head. "It can be because he's giving up, or because he's charging forward at the officer."

You're familiar with the witness account that has Brown charging Wilson as Wilson fires? Did you read the article, AU?

#56 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2014-08-18 03:01 AM | Reply | Flag:

But Baden has not yet seen the X-rays showing where the bullets were found, which would clarify the autopsy results. Nor has he had access to witness and police statements.

Dr. Baden provided a diagram of the entry wounds, and noted that the six shots produced numerous wounds. Some of the bullets entered and exited several times, including one that left at least five different wounds.

"This one here looks like his head was bent downward," he said, indicating the wound at the very top of Mr. Brown's head. "It can be because he's giving up, or because he's charging forward at the officer."

He stressed that his information does not assign blame or justify the shooting.

"We need more information; for example, the police should be examining the automobile to see if there is gunshot residue in the police car," he said.

#57 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2014-08-18 03:04 AM | Reply | Flag:

More information:

www.ijreview.com

#58 | Posted by USAF242 at 2014-08-18 03:08 AM | Reply | Flag:

On the one hand:

"Dr. Baden, 80, is a well-known New York-based medical examiner, who is one of only about 400 board-certified forensic pathologists in the nation. He reviewed the autopsies of both President John F. Kennedy and the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., and has performed more than 20,000 autopsies himself."

On the other:

AmericanUnity, aging poorly, recently celebrated his 7th year as a "Retorter" blogging anonymously on "The Drudge Retort." Mr. Unity has risen to #193 on The Drudge Retort's little understood seniority ranking. Known for chirping incessantly against George Bush's usurpation of power and currently supporting Obama's executive excesses, he has posted in excess of 20,000 biased, knee-jerk entries himself.

Baden hedges, AU decides. *Priceless*

#59 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2014-08-18 03:11 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

So far the evidence supports eye witness reports. Let's see if that trend continues.

#49 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11

Well, no shot in the back is a glaring discrepancy. *blorp*

#60 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2014-08-18 03:20 AM | Reply | Flag:

Shot in the top of the head with his hands up? *blorp*

#61 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2014-08-18 03:21 AM | Reply | Flag:

Xrays will tell us where the bullets ended, but bullets have a nasty habit of tumbling, especially .40 SWs, being larger without necessarily more powder behind them. Plus, we are talking big guy here, not anorexic ballerina. It will take a Forensic ME and Ballistic Expert working hand in hand to determine the angles entry and exits to provide an accurate picture of what position the deceased was in. But already the "gentle giant" claim has been dismissed, as well as the "shot in the back running away" claim. Im more interested in the hospital report on the officer, to see if the blows he sustained while in the car were strong enough to disorientate him. Might explain the # of shots and why they arent center mass and grouped very tight.

#62 | Posted by aescal at 2014-08-18 03:24 AM | Reply | Flag:

Wilson's injuries could play a significant role.

I haven't seen anything, anywhere about blood spatters on the street, aside from the puddle when he bled out. If he was moving while taking fire over the course of a few steps it seems the blood spatters would be different than if he stopped, turned and got gunned down standing still.

Stopped, turned, and put his head down?

#63 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2014-08-18 03:47 AM | Reply | Flag:

Not a single eyewitness said he was charging the cops. Multiple witnesses describe Brown with his hands in the air when the cop continued firing multiple shots. Multiple eyewitness accounts trump some dude who calls himself a 'notch' any day of the week.

Ironic how right wingers had no problem with the armed 'protesters' at the Bundy ranch aiming guns at cops and federal officers ... without being shot.

#64 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2014-08-18 03:54 AM | Reply | Flag:

NOTCH

Considering he sustained two head shots, you don't suppose he could have been falling forward when the last shot hit him on the top of his head, now do you? He landed on his face, so he obviously fell forward. Duh.

#65 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2014-08-18 04:01 AM | Reply | Flag:

#64 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY

www.youtube.com

"coming back toward him" =/= not running away

#66 | Posted by aescal at 2014-08-18 04:08 AM | Reply | Flag:

Not a single eyewitness said he was charging the cops.

#64 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY

Why do you keep skipping over this link?

www.ijreview.com

#67 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2014-08-18 04:09 AM | Reply | Flag:

you don't suppose he could have been falling forward when the last shot hit him on the top of his head, now do you?

#65 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY

He wasn't falling over dead because of the 4 shots to his arm.

The other shot to his head went in his eye, hit his jaw and came out his collarbone. Seems like it also entered when Brown had his head down.

Why not wait for the Medical Examiner to make his conclusions? If he's not drawing conclusions because he needs to examine more evidence, I'm not either.

Keep an open mind.

#68 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2014-08-18 04:13 AM | Reply | Flag:

The path of both bullets to the head is downward.

The bullet that entered the eye hit the jaw and came out the collarbone and caused two other wounds on the arm.

Drawing a straight(ish) line to connect those 5 wounds seems to show the hand down.

I'll wait to see what Baden says, though.

#69 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2014-08-18 04:26 AM | Reply | Flag:

10 wounds, 6 bullets.
1 bullet caused 5 wounds (from the Examiner).
5 other bullets each caused one wound.

Last bullet entered top of head, fatal (likely, says examiner)
4 other bullets wounded the arm or caused that chest wound

The bullet through the eye (second to last?) caused:

1)The eye wound, 2) the jaw wound, 3) the collarbone wound (says the examiner -- touch your chin to your collarbone and it makes sense) and since the examiner says that bullet caused 5 wounds, that bullet caused two of the wounds on the arm or the chest wound and one arm wound.

That's just connecting the pieces of info from the Baden interview. I'm sure there's a lot more to it.

#70 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2014-08-18 04:32 AM | Reply | Flag:

He obviously had his head down because he was repeatedly bashing the officer's head on the concrete.

#71 | Posted by REDIAL at 2014-08-18 07:27 AM | Reply | Flag:

Funny how the story us changing now that facts are becoming known. Just like Tayvon that other "innocent nice kid" that beat the crap out if the guy until he got shot. Here is the gentle giant" that robs a store, attacks a shop keeper and now looks to have attacked the cops.

One of these days you will see that your liberal world view where all the poor are nice and all the cops are corrupt is not reality.

#72 | Posted by foshaffer at 2014-08-18 07:29 AM | Reply | Flag:

1. he was not shot in the back

2. video records eye witness saying that the officer told him to stop running after their fight at the car, Brown turned and charged at the officer....

3. funny how this is turning against the "victim" as evidence surfaces...

4. police and Natl Guard should back out and let it burn.

#73 | Posted by scooter28054 at 2014-08-18 10:17 AM | Reply | Flag:

Leftist thrive by ignoring the individual and categorizing people into groups. It is the calling card of the DEM party for the past 40 years.

#7 | POSTED BY ROBTHOMAS AT 2014-08-16 12:41 PM | REPLY | FLAG

Where is that damn irony flag?

#74 | Posted by 726 at 2014-08-18 11:39 AM | Reply | Flag:

"So far the evidence supports eye witness reports. Let's see if that trend continues.
#49 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11"
Well, no shot in the back is a glaring discrepancy. *blorp*

"I saw him turn around with his arms up in the air and they shot him in his face and chest and he went down unarmed," Piaget Crenshaw said.

Then there's:

You're familiar with the witness account that has Brown charging Wilson as Wilson fires? Did you read the article, AU?

#56 | POSTED BY DIXVILLENOTCH


I'm on point. Go *blorp* yourself.

#75 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-08-18 01:35 PM | Reply | Flag:

"So far the evidence supports eye witness reports. Let's see if that trend continues.
#49 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11"

Well, no shot in the back is a glaring discrepancy. *blorp*
#60 | POSTED BY DIXVILLENOTCH

"I saw him turn around with his arms up in the air and they shot him in his face and chest and he went down unarmed," Piaget Crenshaw said.
Then there's:

You're familiar with the witness account that has Brown charging Wilson as Wilson fires? Did you read the article, AU?
#56 | POSTED BY DIXVILLENOTCH

I'm on point. Go *blorp* yourself.

#76 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-08-18 01:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

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