Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Thursday, August 14, 2014

Eight years after Matt Drudge was compared to Walter Cronkite by well-connected media insider Mark Halperin, John Herrman of The Awl looks at the current state of the publicity shy right-winger's site: "Eight years later, his site looks and feels the same. The same people read it: The establishment crew maybe a little less; the paranoiacs maybe a little more. He has settled into a groove, now that Barack Hussein Obama is president, and it finally feels like we're starting to get to know the real Matt."

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Herrman looks at all the recent headlines Drudge devotes to one of his favorite topics -- scary black people -- after the police shooting in Ferguson, Missouri: "August 11th, Monday, early morning: The situation has escalated. 'LOOTING' makes its first appearance; so, too, does the Drudge favorite, Literally Burning America."

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"Eight years after Matt Drudge was compared to Walter Cronkite"

hahahahahahahah. Good one!

#1 | Posted by CrisisStills at 2014-08-14 07:24 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

When i get down and feeling real blue about the colossally ignorant wingnuts down here in texas, I just go to The Drudge Retort and i find that, by comparison, these texas goobers are not so bad.

At least they give a nod to the truth as it slowly disappears into their rear-view mirror. You know how they say hindsight is 20/20? Drudge has the unusual distinction of having hindsight myopia.

#3 | Posted by kudzu at 2014-08-14 07:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

Matt Drudge's site is the ultimate spin zone. Every single headline and photograph is carefully chosen and manipulated to craft a calculated narrative to support a partisan ideology, and magnify controversies as well as create artificial ones in order to suck the maximum number people to come to his site.

#4 | Posted by sentinel at 2014-08-14 08:00 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

So, the scary black people are or aren't committing these crimes? No looting? No knockout games? No murders? No flash mob robberies?

Why do people want to live in a bubble where they pretend that there isn't a problem with robberies and violence in the black community?

We see an instance or two of stupid tea partners and you rock heads spout endlessly about it, yet we all see what is perpetrated daily by a segment of our society and you bury your heads in the sand...

#5 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2014-08-14 08:39 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Do you consider those Tea Partiers "scary white people" or "the white community"?

#6 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2014-08-14 08:48 PM | Reply | Flag:

So, the scary black people are or aren't committing these crimes? No looting? No knockout games? No murders? No flash mob robberies?
Why do people want to live in a bubble where they pretend that there isn't a problem with robberies and violence in the black community?
We see an instance or two of stupid tea partners and you rock heads spout endlessly about it, yet we all see what is perpetrated daily by a segment of our society and you bury your heads in the sand...

#5 | POSTED BY 101CHAIRBORNE

I ------- DARE you to read and comment on the following www.patheos.com

#8 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-08-14 08:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

#4 what's the over/under on him running the Hillary Clinton ------- shot before the 2016 election? I think he's saving it for her acceptance speech at the convention.

#9 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-08-14 08:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

Matt Drudge's top headline now reads: "'HOPE AND CHANGE' TURNS TO RAGE" with a picture of the shooting victim just above. So, IOW, B. HUSSEIN OBAMA DID IT!!!

#10 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-08-14 09:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

#9, no doubt it will have headline that says 'read my lips, no more bush'

#10, no doubt the photo he chose, with the victim flipping off the camera, is a response to this article... wonder how many of his readers think that's Obama in the photo.

#11 | Posted by sentinel at 2014-08-14 10:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

"The same people read it: The establishment crew maybe a little less; the paranoiacs maybe a little more."

Wow... we really are a mirror site.

#12 | Posted by Corky at 2014-08-15 12:20 AM | Reply | Flag:

I know that this will bounce out of a lib's concept of reality, but there are a lot of black people that scare the crap out of other black people.

#13 | Posted by docnjo at 2014-08-15 08:45 AM | Reply | Flag:

Flag this post as Newsworthy if you found the Retort by looking for Drudge.

#14 | Posted by TheTom at 2014-08-15 09:38 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 7

Why do people want to live in a bubble where they pretend that there isn't a problem with robberies and violence in the black community?

Why do you not recognize that Matt Drudge is engaging in constant "race war" anti-black scandal mongering?

#15 | Posted by rcade at 2014-08-15 09:49 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

C'mon Rcade, why do you rag on Drudge? Without him you would not have a site! The only reason I found you was because you knowingly ripped him off so people would type in "Drudge" and be directed to you. I was happy I did but c'mon man.

#16 | Posted by fishpaw at 2014-08-15 09:52 AM | Reply | Flag:

I can't remember the last time I actually read a headline at the Report. I go there almost daily, but I go there for the link list at the bottom of the page.

#17 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-08-15 09:53 AM | Reply | Flag:

I found this site because Neil Rogers was talking highly of it in like 2002 or maybe 2003. Many of the stories he read on the air came from this site.

#18 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-08-15 09:56 AM | Reply | Flag:

"The only reason I found you was because you knowingly ripped him off so people would type in "Drudge" and be directed to you...."

the world is full of bait...

from an intenet hyperlink to a woman's shapely, pear-shapped backside...

following both can take your life's focus away and lead you down a path of ruin...

#19 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-08-15 11:03 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Black people are the only ones looting. How is that raciest?

No court trial has even started and they claim racism and loot TV sets and shoes. Anyone doing this should be criticized and told they are insane. You looters are as bad as a cop killer you should all be in jail.

#20 | Posted by tmaster at 2014-08-15 11:16 AM | Reply | Flag:

And this site recently has been all about the scary jewish people.

An excellent example of imitation is the highest form of flattery.

#21 | Posted by Yodar013 at 2014-08-15 11:20 AM | Reply | Flag:

I don't what all the fuss is about killing an unarmed black teen.

Cop obviously thought he was in Florida.

#22 | Posted by Corky at 2014-08-15 11:22 AM | Reply | Flag:

Or the kid was a wannabe thug who was being sought in a strong arm robbery and the neighbors are lying because FTP. But totally about scary black people. Word is it was a black cop who shot him. But keep going with this thread despite the facts.

#23 | Posted by monkeylogic42 at 2014-08-15 12:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

-Word is it was a black cop who shot him

Word is wrong.

#24 | Posted by Corky at 2014-08-15 12:07 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

Black officers call for changes to ease racial tension in St. Louis police

The group's president, Sgt. Darren Wilson, said last week that the racist note was symptomatic of a larger, citywide problem.

www.stltoday.com

#25 | Posted by Yodar013 at 2014-08-15 12:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

It's all Matt Drudge's fault.

#26 | Posted by Yodar013 at 2014-08-15 12:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

Why do you not recognize that Matt Drudge is engaging in constant "race war" anti-black scandal mongering?

#15 | Posted by rcade at 2014-08-15 09:49 AM | Reply

He puts up what he thinks are relevant articles, same as how you put up a new anti-israel article every 2 hours.

It's not wrong... simply an opinion.

#27 | Posted by Yodar013 at 2014-08-15 12:48 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

It's not wrong... simply an opinion.

POSTED BY YODAR013 AT 2014-08-15 12:48 PM |

And that is the problem: the news is virtually all opinion now.

#28 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-08-15 12:51 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

Blacks are indeed and rightfully regarded frightening by white people

Stopped right there. Not in the mood for a Stormfront inspired rant.

#30 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-08-15 12:54 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

#23-25

The Ferguson officer, however, is not -- contrary to some Twitter photos and social media speculation -- the Darren R. Wilson of the nearby St. Louis police department, an African-American and president of the Ethical Society of Police. The Ethical Society of Police have released a statement confirming that.

Sgt. Darren R. Wilson is an 18-year veteran of the St. Louis Police Department. The Darren Wilson who shot and killed Michael Brown is a six-year veteran of the Ferguson Police Department, not the St. Louis Police Department. He is also reportedly a white man. www.ibtimes.com

#31 | Posted by tonyroma at 2014-08-15 12:57 PM | Reply | Flag:

Blacks are indeed and rightfully regarded frightening by white people

Stopped right there. Not in the mood for a Stormfront inspired rant.

#30 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-08-15 12:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

Wasn't there somebody named Johnson on this site years ago who used big words to support his racism? Smells like Johnson in here. So to speak.

#32 | Posted by cbob at 2014-08-15 01:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

Thanks for the clarification Tony. Pretty ironic.

#33 | Posted by Yodar013 at 2014-08-15 01:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

#29 Yea, whatever. If I'm on the bad side of the Detroit neighborhood at midnight and I see a group of blacks, hell yes I'm going to stay clear. Would the chances of them robbing or beating me be higher because I'm white, another hell yes. If I'm walking in downtown Portland, Maine during the day and I see a group of blacks am I going to stay clear? No

#34 | Posted by fishpaw at 2014-08-15 01:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

If I'm on the bad side of the Detroit neighborhood at midnight

I'm going to American Pawn and Jewelry! I have seen Hardcore Pawn and know that store is the safest place in Detroit...unless you are either Black or a customer.

#35 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-08-15 01:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

And that is the problem: the news is virtually all opinion now.

#28 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-08-15 12:51 PM | Reply

Which is probably symptomatic of the fact that any big 'issue' in society is rarely, if ever, black and white (pardon the pun). Objective reporting comes down to the ability to report as close to the objective truths that exist on both sides of whatever the issue is.

For example, the current situation in MO: there have been some ridiculous stories of looting and violence supposedly being committed in the name of protest. Similar to the Rodney king riots, asian store owners were the main victims of people protesting police brutality. Mob rule run amok really.

However, the other, and more important aspect of this situation: is racism in police departments, and the disgusting militarization of our police forces. Matt Drudge has done a very good job recently of reporting on the latter issue, but not enough on the former.

Another example: Rogers's anti-israel articles. This site has been 100% one-sided on that conflict and which (for the most part) objective articles he chose to post.

The indian reporters' video of hamas setting up a rocket feet from the media hotel somehow never made it here. Even though it was very clear and objective in showing what israel is up against.

Simply put, both of these and many other big issues in society are extremely complex and cannot be expressed in simple good guy/bad guy terms. That is the very first thing I say when people begin to debate the Israel/Hamas issue, everyone must be able to admit that there is no clear cut good guy/bad guy. And if you believe it's that simple, then you are a simpleton.

#36 | Posted by Yodar013 at 2014-08-15 01:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

unless you are either Black or a customer.

#35 | Posted by kanrei

one of the two latest episodes featured a white mma looking fighter. The bouncers took him down with some impressive skill. Looked legit. Such a horrible show, and almost all fake, but I love it.

#37 | Posted by Yodar013 at 2014-08-15 01:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

The bouncers took him down with some impressive skill. Looked legit. Such a horrible show, and almost all fake, but I love it.

I shamefully watch it too. I blame the cancer and the hours stuck in a hospital bed for exposing me to it.

That punch was so telegraphed even I saw it coming. I rewound it and watching it in slow motion to confirm it. As scripted as a Jackie Chan movie.

#38 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-08-15 01:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

- there is no clear cut good guy/bad guy

Was noted ad nauseum in those threads, often by Rcade.

#39 | Posted by Corky at 2014-08-15 01:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

Oh, there are clear cut bad guys. Nutty-Yahoo and Hamas comes to mind. Can't find any good guys. Plenty of innocents though.

#40 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-08-15 01:28 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

" Nutty-Yahoo and Hamas comes to mind"

Militant theists are responsible for a good proportion of global conflicts.

#41 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-08-15 01:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

Maybe it was noted, but the articles that made the page didn't reflect that sentiment. Whatever. Kanrei summed it up nicely.

I don't have a valid excuse to watch that show. Damn. Good luck man.

#42 | Posted by Yodar013 at 2014-08-15 01:35 PM | Reply | Flag:

Yodar: The claim this site only ran anti-Israel articles during the current conflict is demonstrably false. Several Moder8 links made the front page, as did the early story of Hamas rockets being found in a UN school.

Was the front slanted against Israel blowing the hell out of the captive Palestinian populace it has subjugated for decades? Absolutely. Israel shouldn't get a different set of rules than other countries when it comes to war crimes and international law.

#43 | Posted by rcade at 2014-08-15 03:16 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

C'mon Rcade, why do you rag on Drudge? Without him you would not have a site!

That's why I rag in him. I run this place when I coulda been somebody.

#44 | Posted by rcade at 2014-08-15 03:21 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 3

I think the situation is more complex than simply "Israel blowing the hell out of the captive Palestinian populace it has subjugated for decades". But that is your opinion and bias, depicted to a degree by which articles made the front page, and their frequency. imho.

It is what it is.

As for rule sets and international law, I think the western liberal outcries regarding the humanitarian situations in Israel/Palestine, Syria, Egypt, Iraq, Libya etc are very disproportionate.

so it goes.

Clearly a biased author, so read with skepticism. But the disproportion is there, and it's an interesting point:

www.washingtonpost.com

#45 | Posted by Yodar013 at 2014-08-15 04:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

full -----------: Matt definitely highlights (with his own bias) violence/crime in the US black community. But regardless of one's opinion as to its origin, the issue is mostly ignored in the MSM.

Which received more attention, american deaths in Afghanistan or Chicago?

#47 | Posted by Yodar013 at 2014-08-15 05:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Wasn't there somebody named Johnson on this site years ago who used big words to support his racism? Smells like Johnson in here. So to speak.

#32 | Posted by cbob "

Duh huh huh He used a big word, Duh huh huh. That's you, man. Yeah, that's what you sound like. You smell a johnson? Kinda - close, to it, aren't you? Go on - taste it!
Duh huh huh. You're funny.

-Stewie Johnson

#48 | Posted by channelabe at 2014-08-15 06:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

The headline now is "Looters strike again..."

So we were told the police presence caused the riots. Even though the first wave of looting occurred before the police were on the scene.

Now it's the fault of the police for releasing the video.

You couldn't make this stuff up.

#49 | Posted by RobThomas at 2014-08-16 10:36 AM | Reply | Flag:

Africa, hearing the cries of millions now of her children, frantic cries of distress, took action. Someone had moved one of her stoichiometric markers, a boundary she had placed, carefully adjusting its position as time passed. She acted as a loving eternal continental parent must - she began killing her children with plagues.

#46 | POSTED BY CHANNELABE AT 2014-08-15 05:08 PM | REPLY | FLAG

ROTFLMAO

Africa has corrupt leaders. And is a continent full of Islam. That stoichiometric results in poverty and disease.

#50 | Posted by RobThomas at 2014-08-16 10:40 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Word is it was a black cop who shot him. But keep going with this thread despite the facts.
#23 | Posted by monkeylogic42"

Flag: Uninformed; dummy.

#53 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2014-08-16 12:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

^
Why not correct him instead of pelting him?

There was another cop with the same name, Monkey.

#54 | Posted by channelabe at 2014-08-16 12:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

Israel shouldn't get a different set of rules than other countries when it comes to war crimes and international law.

#43 | Posted by rcade

Wow, I would like to have a debate with my favorite right-wing and left-wing intellects on this topic alone.

1) is this true, in actual reality? In theory? In application?

2) how many people say this but don't practice it?

3) why do they, or why don't they?

The anti-Semite/pro-Semite knee jerk crowd has so polluted this subject that any hint at reality will get a label attached to you. That alone should tell you something is wrong.

#55 | Posted by kudzu at 2014-08-16 01:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

Anti-Semite is not the proper charge as both Israelis and Palestinians are Semites.

IMHO, the world's lack of action is due to Antisemitism, as this war is Semites killing Semites.

#56 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-08-16 01:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

IMHO, the world's lack of action is due to Antisemitism, as this war is Semites killing Semites.

#56 | Posted by kanrei

See what I mean? Why SHOULD the world do anything, when it refuses to do anything about other 'already-in-progress' genocides?

#57 | Posted by kudzu at 2014-08-16 01:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

Why SHOULD the world do anything

Because this one is totally the UN's fault. THEY made a charter establishing Israel in 1948 and have refused to ever back up that charter.

Had the UN done its job, Jerusalem would be in international city under the UN belonging to no country or faith. They never came which left the area in chaos.

Pottery Barn rule: you break it, you bought it. The UN broke it in 1948.

#58 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-08-16 01:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Anti-Semite is not the proper charge as both Israelis and Palestinians are Semites. "

[polite applause]

Semite refers to a language group, not a nationality.

#59 | Posted by channelabe at 2014-08-16 01:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

As an American Jew who is very anti-Zionism, it is vital IMHO for me to clarify the terms in use as often as I can. Too often I am seeing defense of the Palestinians being translated into anti-Jewish rhetoric instead of criticism of a nation, Israel, and their actions.

#60 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-08-16 01:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

Sorry, my friend. You keep falling in the same trap, thereby proving my point. Let's get back to the original idea.

Israel shouldn't get a different set of rules than other countries when it comes to war crimes and international law.

My point is that people say this but don't believe or practice it. We've had this discussion before. I am not an enemy of Israel, but I am also not going to give them freedom to their own truth, unsubstantiated by facts.

Gaza and the West Bank are part of Israel. Israel is supposed to be an autonomous government. There is no need for the UN to have further involvement, unless that government becomes so incompetent that it is a hazard to worldwide stability (are we there yet?).

Iraq was also created with incorrect ethnic boundaries and the problem there is the same. There is only intrusion there when the world marketplace was facing the very real possibility that Saddam would destroy the precious commodity of the oil reserves. There is no such precious commodity in Israel other than Religious sites and the Israelis (jews and arabs) own inflated sense of self-worth.

Jerusalem cannot be an international city because that would require it to be a church-state, similar to the Vatican. But that still doesn't solve the conflict about who owns it - the jews or the Arabs. There is no conflict at the Vatican, everyone knows the catholic church owns it.

You should take a deeper look at why America is doing what it is doing. The conflict could be easily stopped. A utter and complete economic and material sanction on the Israelis - both sides. But America, especially the American Banks, do not want the conflict to stop.

Never forget my patented saying; 'You can't have war contracts without a war. You can't have a war without an enemy.'

#61 | Posted by kudzu at 2014-08-16 02:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

Semite refers to a language group, not a nationality.

#59 | Posted by channelabe

Yes, I am often guilty of using this expression incorrectly.

#62 | Posted by kudzu at 2014-08-16 02:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

Sorry, my friend. You keep falling in the same trap, thereby proving my point. Let's get back to the original idea.
Israel shouldn't get a different set of rules than other countries when it comes to war crimes and international law.

Not my idea, so not going back to the original idea. Debate that one with Rcade as I didn't say it.

#63 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-08-16 02:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

The conflict could be easily stopped.

Hardly. If it could be, it would have been. It can't be stopped because factions on both sides keep stoking the flames. Each side feels justified because they pick an arbitrary starting point that allows them to push blame and feel victimized. True for both sides.

A utter and complete economic and material sanction on the Israelis - both sides.

Facts don't support that. For example, Israel's military budget is in excess of $15 billion and the US gives $3 billion in total aid, not just military.

Do the math. A total cut off by America will result in no change.

Jerusalem cannot be an international city because that would require it to be a church-state, similar to the Vatican.

Untrue. Read the 1948 UN Charter.

Gaza and the West Bank became part of Israel in 1967. Before that, nobody cared about the Palestinians. Lebanon and Egypt were actually quite happy they were Israel's problem now.

#64 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-08-16 02:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

The truth of why Israel was established was because Britain wanted out of the region and the world was embarrassed by the holocaust. They felt doing "something" was going to erase the sins, but didn't really care all that much, so they did as little as humanly possible.

What was the harm as it was only Semites killing Semites?

#65 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-08-16 02:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Gaza and the West Bank became part of Israel in 1967"

I think that is one of the things the Pals have been complaining about. The 1967 expansion is supposedly not per UN rules.

#66 | Posted by channelabe at 2014-08-16 04:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

And if Germany, France, Italy and Austria all tried to attack Switzerland, that wouldn't be per UN rules...

#67 | Posted by Yodar013 at 2014-08-16 04:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

But had that happened and Switzerland prevailed, I don't think many would blame them for seizing some strategic surrounding areas..

#68 | Posted by Yodar013 at 2014-08-16 04:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

"And if Germany, France, Italy and Austria all tried to attack Switzerland, that wouldn't be per UN rules...

#67 | Posted by Yodar013 "

If Russia attacked Turkey from behind, would Greece help?

Wonder about this, I do.

#69 | Posted by channelabe at 2014-08-16 04:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

Holy -----.... i get called a dummy for some misinfo yet somehow scary black guy thread devolved to isr/pal? what are we smoking and where can i get it?
Back to the discussion, anyone else catch that press conference on ferguson curfew? Why all the outrage against it? theres no reason to be protesting in your neighborhood street with incoherent rhetoric past midnight. When the situation has spiraled out of control, following rules for survival becomes paramount. I dont care whether they are state imposed or natural law when ferality takes over, you will be injured/killed just the same being in the wrong place.

#70 | Posted by monkeylogic42 at 2014-08-16 05:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

My obvious point being that you can't apply UN rules to one side of the conflict, and not the other.

However if Russia attacked Djibouti, Greece would definitely help.

#71 | Posted by Yodar013 at 2014-08-16 05:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

Invaded Djibouti.

Damn.

#72 | Posted by Yodar013 at 2014-08-16 05:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

^
A military penetration, would it be?

#73 | Posted by channelabe at 2014-08-16 06:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

" point being that you can't apply UN rules to one side of the conflict, and not the other."

That, I believe, is also the Pal point. The state Israel exists by UN authority, agreed by most; but the UN directive to maintain pre-1967 borders is ignored by all.

#74 | Posted by channelabe at 2014-08-16 06:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

C'mon Rcade, why do you rag on Drudge? Without him you would not have a site! The only reason I found you was because you knowingly ripped him off so people would type in "Drudge" and be directed to you. I was happy I did but c'mon man.

#16 | Posted by fishpaw at 2014-08-15 09:52 AM | Reply

Now come on!!!! Are you inferring that our beloved Rcade would be that devious and materialistic. Afterall, he's a regressive and regressives aren't like that at all.

It's interesting how all the usual suspects on this site throw around these generalities about Matt Drudge and yet can't denigrate the truth of a lot of his articles. That's probably because they can't handle the truth.

#75 | Posted by matsop at 2014-08-16 06:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

and the UN directive to stop supplying Hamas and attacking Israel is ignored by all..

so it goes.

#76 | Posted by Yodar013 at 2014-08-16 06:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

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