Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Wednesday, August 13, 2014

Amid ongoing demonstrations, police in Ferguson, Missouri, announced Tuesday that they would not release the name of the officer who shot and killed an unarmed black man in the racially divided suburb of St. Louis, citing concerns for the policeman's safety. The unorthodox decision drew immediate criticism from Brown's family. "That doesn't give the community confidence," said Benjamin Crump, the attorney for Brown's family, while flanked by several African-American leaders. "That doesn't make it transparent."

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After some protests were followed by looting, community figures and NAACP leaders implored residents to refrain from violence and, instead, peacefully channel their frustration. "To sneak around under the cover of darkness, to steal, to burn down your neighborhood -- this does not require courage," NAACP president Cornell Brooks said at a public forum on Monday. "Courage is when you strive for justice."

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Maybe because he's black. Besides the people who were there know who he is but are not saying. Why?

rwd

#1 | Posted by rightwingdon at 2014-08-13 09:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

Multiple people have ID'd the cop as being white. This has been reported since the story first broke by scores of witnesses who were watching in front of the apartments where the shooting happened and by Dorian Johnson the young man who was with Brown when he was murdered.

#2 | Posted by tonyroma at 2014-08-13 09:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

Carwash was molotoved tonight. Tear gas used to break up protests after bottles were thrown at police. Unconfirmed reports say that the officer involved in the shooting was treated in the ER for a broken jaw and one eye swelled shut. Unconfirmed. Anonymoose released the info on all police department staff. Hire dates, ages etc.

#3 | Posted by aescal at 2014-08-13 10:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

That's nothing. Authorities sent a SWAT team of at least 70 people to bust up peaceful demonstration. The cops told protesters to leave the area.

#4 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-08-13 10:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

Besides the people who were there know who he is but are not saying. Why?
rwd
#1 | Posted by rightwingdon

Maybe they are saying it, and you just don't understand Ebonics well enough to catch the name.

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-08-13 11:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

The Gestapo protects its own.

#6 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-08-13 11:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

twitter.com

pbs.twimg.com

Should have been a peaceful protest. But the minute molotov cocktails and bottles are thrown, businesses set of fire it stops being peaceful.

#7 | Posted by aescal at 2014-08-13 11:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

OK, but what came first crowd or police violence? Its almost always the police, but they always get away with blaming it on the individual they attacked. Its how are Justice system works.

#8 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-08-13 11:56 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

where are the white women?

#9 | Posted by coyote at 2014-08-14 12:08 AM | Reply | Flag:

Coyote,
www.youtube.com
:)

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-08-14 01:02 AM | Reply | Flag:

Ferguson protest
The Huffington Post reported that state Sen. Maria Chapelle Nadal (D), who criticized the police response in an MSNBC interview on Tuesday night, was taken into custody.

The #STL SWAT team has weapons drawn in #Ferguson at a protest in broad daylight with media attending pic.twitter.com/z6zIVuCM6D

-- FOX2now (@FOX2now) August 13, 2014

MSNBC host Chris Hayes and The Guardian reported that police are blocking and arresting media members.

Police in Ferguson currently no allowing our reporter @trymainelee to go to the camera position for our report. #inners

-- Christopher Hayes (@chrislhayes) August 13, 2014

Just saw two reporters in ferguson cuffed and put in cop van

-- Jon Swaine (@jonswaine) August 13, 2014

Update, 8:32 p.m. EST: The two journalists arrested have been identified as the Huffington Post's Ryan J. Reilly and Wesley Lowery from the Washington Post.

So @ryanjreilly and @WesleyLowery haven't tweeted since @jonswaine said he saw two journalists get arrested at the McDonald's they were in.

-- Matt Pearce (@mattdpearce) August 14, 2014

#11 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2014-08-14 01:02 AM | Reply | Flag:

It is a good idea considering the poor behavior that has been prolific in that area in response to the matter.

There is no seeking of understanding, there is a race toward vengeance.

It is stupid to release the name, and the response of targeting all officers shows the irrationality on part of the rioters.

#12 | Posted by HeuristicGratis at 2014-08-14 01:13 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Police Won't Name Cop Who Shot Michael Brown"

Considering the rioters would lynch him if they could that's a good thing.

#13 | Posted by Tor at 2014-08-14 01:38 AM | Reply | Flag:

but was it a good idea arresting the state senator who criticized the police and arresting reporters who were eating at McDonald and preventing other reporters from filming the police and protesters?

#14 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2014-08-14 01:39 AM | Reply | Flag:

nope.

#15 | Posted by Tor at 2014-08-14 01:41 AM | Reply | Flag:

Maybe if murdering cops were actually arrested when they murder or at the very least lose their jobs this type of thing wouldn't happen.

Right wingers living in their fantasy bubbles where institutional racism doesn't exist are too blinder too stupid to understand the frustrations against a very racist institution. Maybe if they woke up they would understand why the police are hated.

And the color of the individual police officer doesn't matter. They system they work for is racist.

A police force is a requirement for a modern working community. But if the racism doesn't end in the system then it will continue to fail the community.

#17 | Posted by klifferd at 2014-08-14 02:17 AM | Reply | Flag:

And this bs about whites will follow cops whole blacks won't is a brainless misunderstanding of an already lost trust the black community has of the police. Why should blacks trust cops when the system has proven it will murder their unarmed children? When it arrests it's community at a ten to one ratio for minor drug violations. When it ruins the lives of community members on a regular basis creating a chain reaction that lasts for generations.

Are people really this dumb? Yes.

#18 | Posted by klifferd at 2014-08-14 02:21 AM | Reply | Flag:

If police started arresting white parents for the pot they smoke on a regular basis you would see the white community ruined too. But people all over this site and others sticking up for the police seem to have zero understanding of this. Proof how supposedly smart people lack the iq to understand complex ideas.

#19 | Posted by klifferd at 2014-08-14 02:27 AM | Reply | Flag:

16 | Posted by channelabe

Between this comment and others comments I see you made today I must conclude you are one big pile of racist Shipt.

#20 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2014-08-14 03:07 AM | Reply | Flag:

#16 | Posted by channelabe

So am I to understand you're a-OK with police acting aggressively in cases of people walking in the street or giving them an answer they don't like?

Do you get a side of fries with that boot you're licking?

#21 | Posted by jpw at 2014-08-14 03:09 AM | Reply | Flag:

Update, 8:32 p.m. EST: The two journalists arrested have been identified as the Huffington Post's Ryan J. Reilly and Wesley Lowery from the Washington Post.

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Ge Sta Po.

#22 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-08-14 03:14 AM | Reply | Flag:

But if the racism doesn't end in the system then it will continue to fail the community.

Dude, with all due respect this situation is escalating well beyond issues of racism.

www.cnn.com

We essentially have an area of the United States that is effectively under martial law.

Protests determined to be "non-peaceful" at the whim of the police with immediate tear gassing and rubber bullets being fired.

Press being forced to leave and now arrested.

A litany of pictures of people having weapons pointed at them while walking down the sidewalk with their hands up.

Armored vehicles with men on top in combat fatigues, kevlar vests and helmets "monitoring" crowds with rifles on bipods.

We may be one short-fused hothead away from looking exactly like the protests in the Ukraine when they were just starting...except we're doing it to ourselves.

#23 | Posted by jpw at 2014-08-14 03:15 AM | Reply | Flag:

We essentially have an area of the United States that is effectively under martial law.

But... negroes!

#24 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-08-14 03:27 AM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

If the rioters lynched him, it may slow a few cops in the future from thinking they have the right to unjustly kill citizens. I'm not for anarchy, but a powerful message needs to be sent to all law enforcement in the US.

#25 | Posted by nastrand2000 at 2014-08-14 04:01 AM | Reply | Flag:

So week got a state senator being arrested who criticized the cops the press being arrested and also this,

he Federal Aviation Administration has temporarily restricted flights in the airspace 3,000 feet above the ground in Ferguson, Missouri, effective this afternoon until August 18.

The ban has been put in place "to provide a safe environment for law

he spokesman confirmed that the ban also includes the media:

Does that include media? I asked. "That includes media. The only people who can go in there are first responders." #Ferguson
-- Brian Rie$ (@moneyries) August 12, 2014

A St. Louis County Police Department helicopter dispatcher (who only identified himself as "Chris") told Think Progress the no-fly zone was put in place because the department was having trouble with news teams. "It's just for a no fly zone because we have multiple helicopters maneuvering in the area and we were having some problems with news. aircrafts flying around there," he said.
Another FAA official suggested filing a Freedom of Information Act request. "If you want, it file a FOIA," FAA spokesperson Elizabeth Cory told Time.

www.thewire.com

#26 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2014-08-14 04:02 AM | Reply | Flag:

Jpw. With due respect. You are thinking of one powder keg where the fuse was lit.

But racism is the cause for a lot more powder kegs waiting to be lit.

When it happens again I'm sure you'll tell me I'm wrong again. But I'm not surprised this happened. I AM surprised that more cops haven't been the victims of mob violence.

#27 | Posted by klifferd at 2014-08-14 04:05 AM | Reply | Flag:

Just saw some statistics about Ferguson on CNN:

- 2 to 1 black majority in Ferguson
- 53 white cops, 3 black cops
- White Mayor
- 1 black guy on the city council of 6

4000+ arrests of blacks
400+ arrests of whites

Think there's a mindset in the police department that needs to be changed along with the ration of representation in all areas of Ferguson City Hall?

BTW, another witness has come forward. Cop shot the kid while he was outside the car, then shot him in the back as he walked away. Kid raised his hands in the air and the cop kept shooting.

#28 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2014-08-14 04:24 AM | Reply | Flag:

37.media.tumblr.com

#29 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-08-14 04:33 AM | Reply | Flag:

^ I have no idea if that's real or Photoshop, by the way. Both are equally believable to me right now.

#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-08-14 04:34 AM | Reply | Flag:

But the wording reminds me of stuff I've seen on DR.

#31 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-08-14 04:35 AM | Reply | Flag:

But racism is the cause for a lot more powder kegs waiting to be lit.

When it happens again I'm sure you'll tell me I'm wrong again.

I never said you were wrong, just that this is transcending racism.

Racism and police brutality against the black community is undeniable.

I was stating this is showing something different, something deeper and more sinister IMO that is most easily brought to light through the lens of racism; underlying feelings of power, infallibility and carte blanche exertion of deadly force on the part of police forces in this country because for all intents and purposes, they are untouchable.

A community protesting the actions of those commissioned to "protect and serve" is being met with serious curtailments of rights and shows of force, with our post-9/11 militarized police forces on full display. If you can't protest the actions of public servants without those same servants calling in buddies (and hardware) from across the state to emphatically tell you to STFU, then I have to honesty say racism is no longer the major topic here.

Not saying it's the same for a black man more likely to be on the front line of that than I am, just that the ante has been upped. A lot.

But I'm not surprised this happened.

Me either. Nor will I be surprised if (when...) it happens again.

I AM surprised that more cops haven't been the victims of mob violence.

I'm not. Mob violence requires arousing a large group of people. I'm more surprised we haven't had more individuals acting out.

#32 | Posted by jpw at 2014-08-14 04:40 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

If you can't protest the actions of public servants without those same servants calling in buddies (and hardware) from across the state to emphatically tell you to STFU, then I have to honesty say racism is no longer the major topic here

BTW I say this because footage of the protests going on shows it to be racially mixed.

This is a power play to suppress protests that span racial lines.

#33 | Posted by jpw at 2014-08-14 04:45 AM | Reply | Flag:

This is a power play to suppress protests that span racial lines.
#33 | Posted by jpw

And yet you'll only find whites* cheering for it.

*including Boaz

#34 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-08-14 04:52 AM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

*including Boaz

Posted by snoofy at 2014-08-14 04:52 AM | Reply

And that's sad too.

#35 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-08-14 05:04 AM | Reply | Flag:

And yet you'll only find whites* cheering for it.

I think you'll find better off, comfortable people cheering for it.

People too self-absorbed to imagine a situation where something like this doesn't effect them because, well, the police are always there to "protect" them.

#36 | Posted by jpw at 2014-08-14 05:09 AM | Reply | Flag:

The names of the 7 SA PD staff on duty has been released. *wont post it, but:
2 communications officer = assuming dispatch
4 patrol officers
1 detective

As for the protests, Alex Tinfoil Jones has a nightvision video up made by Joe Briggs that shows the start of the tear gas. You can see and hear the molotovs being thrown towards police and the response.

#37 | Posted by aescal at 2014-08-14 06:09 AM | Reply | Flag:

#28 That doesn't necessarily prove racism. It can show racial bias, or it can show that the black citizens in that town are more disposed toward criminal behavior and inability to pass police force examinations.

That is no ones fault but their own, if true.

I can't stand the automatic jumping to racism without considering the fact that people might just be stupid. Why don't they use their majority and vote in a black chief of police?

#38 | Posted by HeuristicGratis at 2014-08-14 08:24 AM | Reply | Flag:

Yes, white people are smart but black people are stupid. But you're not racist, right?

#39 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2014-08-14 08:36 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

"2 to 1 black majority in Ferguson
- 53 white cops, 3 black cops
- White Mayor
- 1 black guy on the city council of 6"

wonder why? blacks vote and can run for city council.

blacks can apply for police jobs.

#40 | Posted by eberly at 2014-08-14 08:55 AM | Reply | Flag:

Eberly, it's because they've cut welfare in Ferguson so that it no longer buys their black votes.

Blacks are left confused and not knowing who to vote for, so they just smoke crack and plan their next sneaker robbery.

#41 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-08-14 09:01 AM | Reply | Flag:

wonder why?

What's your theory?

#42 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2014-08-14 09:01 AM | Reply | Flag:

#42

I honestly don't know why blacks can't change things there if they are the majority. They could do a better job of representing themselves in city government. Or is there a good reason why they have chosen not to?

they could become police officers, or is there a good reason why they have chosen not to.

#43 | Posted by eberly at 2014-08-14 09:05 AM | Reply | Flag:

#41

blacks votes come for free to the dems, Snoofy.

#44 | Posted by eberly at 2014-08-14 09:06 AM | Reply | Flag:

"...they just smoke crack and plan their next sneaker robbery."

I have to admit I'm guessing but I really doubt there is much planning in those robberies. It's pretty impulsive.....

#45 | Posted by eberly at 2014-08-14 09:07 AM | Reply | Flag:

they could become police officers, or is there a good reason why they have chosen not to.
#43 | Posted by eberly

You could have become a police officer, but there's probably a good reason why you chose not to.

#46 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-08-14 09:10 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Had Mr Brown moved to the sidewalk as requested, or had he walked in the first place not in the middle of the street but upon the sidewalk, as is appropriate to pedestrian thoroughfare, the police may have not initiated the ill-fated exchange."

So you're saying that if a cops kills someone for refusing to walk on the sidewalk, that is OK?

Yeah, um, decent people don't want that. Go move to some third world craphole. The US is meant to better than this.

#47 | Posted by Sully at 2014-08-14 09:21 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

"You could have become a police officer, but there's probably a good reason why you chose not to."

Yes, there was.

so? what is that deflection supposed to mean? I'm not complaining about representation in my local government nor the racial disparities that exist in the police department.

What's their excuse Snoofy?

#48 | Posted by eberly at 2014-08-14 09:28 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

What's their excuse Snoofy?
#48 | Posted by eberly

You need an excuse to not be a pig?
Lick more, you're getting better at it.

#49 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-08-14 09:32 AM | Reply | Flag:

#49

what in the hell are you talking about?

#50 | Posted by eberly at 2014-08-14 09:41 AM | Reply | Flag:

what in the hell are you talking about?
#50 | Posted by eberly

I'm talking about the racism driving comments like this:

blacks votes come for free to the dems, Snoofy.
#44 | Posted by eberly

#51 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-08-14 09:47 AM | Reply | Flag:

#51

cry me a river, snoofy. It's the truth.

single issue pro-life voters come for free to the GOP.

quit crying.

#52 | Posted by eberly at 2014-08-14 09:52 AM | Reply | Flag:

#39, who are you referring to? If me, did I say white people weren't stupid? I don't recall that.

You do realize that ALL people have the ability to act stupidly, right? Even black people.

Just like man other groups come together, stupid people tend to gather together as well. The more stupid you have concentrated in one area, the more problematic it is going to be, no matter what "color" those people may be.

#53 | Posted by HeuristicGratis at 2014-08-14 09:53 AM | Reply | Flag:

#51
cry me a river, snoofy. It's the truth.

Yes, racism is the truth. I'm glad we can agree on that.

single issue pro-life voters come for free to the GOP.

Sexism is also the truth. I'm glad we can agree on that too.

#54 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-08-14 09:53 AM | Reply | Flag:

#52 Don't worry about it too much, the poster you are replying to is busy making inane comments such as this:

It is stupid to loot your own neighborhood.
#3 | Posted by 726

Not really.
Black neighborhoods are full of Cadillacs and iPhones.
Just ask any Republican.

#4 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-08-14 09:20 AM | Reply | Flag:

#55 | Posted by HeuristicGratis at 2014-08-14 09:55 AM | Reply | Flag:

no, Snoofy. I can't see us agreeing on anything.

you want ME to solve black people's problems.

not THEMSELVES.

no, we don't agree.

#56 | Posted by eberly at 2014-08-14 09:57 AM | Reply | Flag:

you want ME to solve black people's problems.
#56 | Posted by eberly

I do? What gave you that idea? Trust me, there are plenty of people I would call on before you. Unless their problem is a lack of insurance, in which case I'm pretty sure you'd nominate yourself. But we all know blacks have bigger problems than that!

About the most I would expect you to do to solve black people's problems is to stop redlining. And hopefully you aren't doing that in the first place. That would be a real disappointment.

#57 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-08-14 10:04 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Unless their problem is a lack of insurance, in which case I'm pretty sure you'd nominate yourself."

not likely.

"stop redlining"

what do you think that means?

#58 | Posted by eberly at 2014-08-14 10:13 AM | Reply | Flag:

I think it means what it says when you type "redlining" into Wikipedia.

#59 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-08-14 10:19 AM | Reply | Flag:

they could become police officers, or is there a good reason why they have chosen not to.
#43 | POSTED BY EBERLY

If you, your friends and family are frequently stopped and treated with disrespect and imprisoned by an authoritative system do you think you would be inspired to join that system? Do you think those that are important would embrace you and encourage you in that pursuit?

#60 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2014-08-14 10:28 AM | Reply | Flag:

#59

doesn't know what it means....just quotes wiki.

sad.

#60

I can try and put myself in a black person's shoes but what then? If I fail to give you the answer you want, then you're just going to tell me, "you don't know what it's like to be a black person".

so why start with coy little questions where I am supposed to understand what it's like to be a black person?

If your point is to just say that black people are powerless to manage themselves, nor help themselves in any way and it's up to every one else to improve their lives....then just say it.

stop with the inane questions.

#61 | Posted by eberly at 2014-08-14 10:32 AM | Reply | Flag:

# 61 - Why do ask questions if you don't want to know the thoughts of others. You want a more direct answer to your question?

Yes, there are good reasons why they have decided not to become cops. A person is going to have a tendency to resist, not embrace, a system that uses intimidation and force to harass and imprison them.

#62 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2014-08-14 11:24 AM | Reply | Flag:

#62

then why don't we reach out to the black community and encourage, even incentivize them, to pursue a career in law enforcement?

maybe we wouldn't have so many white cops shooting black unarmed suspects if we had more black cops, more blacks in civic leadership (such as city council).

I'm sure this had been tried before. But we still end up with the same disproportionate numbers in cities like Ferguson.

#63 | Posted by eberly at 2014-08-14 11:29 AM | Reply | Flag:

"So you're saying that if a cops kills someone for refusing to walk on the sidewalk, that is OK?

Yeah, um, decent people don't want that. Go move to some third world craphole. The US is meant to better than this.

#47 | Posted by Sully"

Thank you, Master Sully, for trying to understand my communique. Please allow me to clarify: I did not 'say' that "if a cops kills someone for refusing to walk on the sidewalk, that is OK"; what I actually 'said' was:

"Had Mr Brown moved to the sidewalk as requested, or had he walked in the first place not in the middle of the street but upon the sidewalk, as is appropriate to pedestrian thoroughfare, the police may have not initiated the ill-fated exchange."

I will say, to be perfectly clear to you, I do not 'think it's OK' to kill anyone for any reason, save to thwart attack. I do agree with you that "the US is meant to better than this" (sic), and suggest that. in lieu of safely marked pedestrian lanes incorporated into our roads' lane divider markings, we should adhere to the convention of automobiles traveling in the road, and pedestrian traffic in the sidewalk, where available, as a measure to promote harmonious conduct, thus to preclude unnecessary confrontation. The deliberate refusal to conform to this simple concept is a deliberate provocation to a cooperative coexistence.

#64 | Posted by channelabe at 2014-08-14 11:38 AM | Reply | Flag:

Blacks are America's Palestinians, we want them isolated from us and we will do anything to keep them quiet.

Whether it is through prison or ghettos.

It is America's lasting shame of slavery.

#65 | Posted by Prolix247 at 2014-08-14 11:43 AM | Reply | Flag:

And now a little something from a different perspective.

www.ijreview.com

#66 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2014-08-14 11:49 AM | Reply | Flag:

#63

There are a lot of communities that do just that eberly. I hope no one is thinking that all law enforcement is being painted with a broad brush. Personally, I've had two uncles that were officers, one in the city police and the other a county sheriff. The city cop, a WWII veteran, quit his job after a few years because of what he saw and could not in good conscious continue along with. He became a school security officer and continued to work with PAL. One of the kids he helped was Oscar Robertson. The sheriff became one later in life, was a horse patrol member and did private security before and after his retirement.

#67 | Posted by tonyroma at 2014-08-14 11:58 AM | Reply | Flag:

#64 - in other words, the blacks should keep the "quiet."

#68 | Posted by Prolix247 at 2014-08-14 12:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

President Obama to Speak About Missouri and Iraq Unrest

12:15 (or so)

www.nbcnews.com

#69 | Posted by Corky at 2014-08-14 12:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

Mike Brown, an unarmed 18-year-old black youth who was shot a number of times while he was allegedly on his knees with his hands up in the air, pleading "Don't shoot, I'm not armed," is exposing everything that is wrong with policing in the US today. In this case, it appears Brown's offense was jay-walking and perhaps talking back to the police officer, the first being a citation offense, and the second not even illegal. The name of the alleged shooter would be readily available were the shooter not a police officer.

Police say they are awaiting the result of toxicology tests on the body. That's a common ploy of police in shootings, on the theory that if they can find evidence of alcohol or drugs, it will somehow diminish public outrage over the shooting. Whether or not Brown was inebriated or drug addled would have no bearing at all on the justification for the shooting. According to witnesses Brown was on his knees with his hands raised when the officer, who had already shot the him at least once, walked up to him and fired more shots at him, killing him in the street. Toxicology tests are irrelevant. What is important is how many shots were fired, where they hit him, and what the trajectories of the bullets were. And the public has a right to know this information as soon as possible.

In too many communities across America today, as in Ferguson, Missouri, the "terrorists" in our midst are the police themselves. We need to end that situation. (Dave Lindorff)

#70 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-08-14 02:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

Poor blacks. They seem powerless to vote for a black candidate or take a police exam...again, they're the victims.

Perhaps if the police department dropped the high school diploma requirement, or even testing black people we could have more black police officers. Better yet, lets just give any black people that show up, a badge. Hell, why even make them show up, lets mail them badges so we don't inconvenience themselves by actually having to do something, like apply themselves...

#71 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2014-08-14 03:33 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

All cops are racist baby murdering psychopaths / Lets ban the 2nd amendment, only the police should have guns. - liberal logic

#72 | Posted by aescal at 2014-08-14 07:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

Anonymous says the cops name was Bryan Willman.

They got the dispatcher audio.

#73 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2014-08-14 09:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

73
I know where we can find him tomorrow at 630pm, EST!

#74 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2014-08-14 09:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

Toxicology tests are irrelevant.

No! Toxicology tests on the police officer that did the shooting are extremely relevant. Also, in some jurisdictions, there is a policy of not questioning a police officer involved in some controversial incident for 24 - 48 hrs; giving the officer time to get his story/alibis straight. This is nonsense!

#75 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2014-08-15 04:51 AM | Reply | Flag:

Darren Wilson - AA police officer

Security cam video released from Quick Trip shows victim scuffling with cashier.

Ferguson PD Complaint # 14-12388 cashier filed a robbery report claiming Brown swiped several packs of Swisher Sweets, pushed cashier and walked out of store.

#76 | Posted by aescal at 2014-08-15 10:48 AM | Reply | Flag:

breaking photos released of
suspect michael brown robbing
store before shooting

www.thegatewaypundit.com

#77 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2014-08-15 11:43 AM | Reply | Flag:

The Ferguson officer, however, is not -- contrary to some Twitter photos and social media speculation -- the Darren R. Wilson of the nearby St. Louis police department, an African-American and president of the Ethical Society of Police. The Ethical Society of Police have released a statement confirming that.

Sgt. Darren R. Wilson is an 18-year veteran of the St. Louis Police Department. The Darren Wilson who shot and killed Michael Brown is a six-year veteran of the Ferguson Police Department, not the St. Louis Police Department. He is also reportedly a white man. www.ibtimes.com


What is your problem?

Darren Wilson - AA police officer

#76 | POSTED BY AESCAL AT 2014-08-15 10:48 AM

Its being reported that the police officer that shot Mike Brown was AA.
POSTED BY AESCAL AT 2014-08-11 04:10 PM

#78 | Posted by tonyroma at 2014-08-15 11:59 AM | Reply | Flag:

My problem with society is the "victim mentality" that too many people tend to have. Whether its "oh poor me I dont have a job" or the likes of twitters "i need you to view my tweets to justify my suffering". You reap what you sow, and society (albeit not the MSM), will view your actions as indicative of your persona. I could care less what race the officer is, or gender, or political affiliation. Their job is enforce the laws our society has deemed necessary to ensure survival and harmony. If a community feels that pushing your way out of store with 47$ in cigars without paying for them is acceptable, let them pass laws specifying so. But dont claim that businesses no longer want to operate in your area after the fact. I feel for the young man who lost his life, yet cant understand, putting myself in his situation, why if I am starting college on Monday I would choose to loom over and push aside a store clerk half my wieght and twice as old, just to walk out cigars I didnt pay for?

#79 | Posted by aescal at 2014-08-15 12:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

My problem with society is the "victim mentality"

Then why are you trying to propagate the same thing by inferring the race of the policeman who murdered the victim was "AA"?

Physician heal thyself,

#80 | Posted by tonyroma at 2014-08-15 12:28 PM | Reply | Flag:

If a community feels that pushing your way out of store with 47$ in cigars without paying for them is acceptable, let them pass laws specifying so.

And if the cop decides it is a capitol crime, so be it too?

#81 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-08-15 12:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

This story reminds me of the old joke:

How many cops does it take to throw a suspect down a staircase?

None; he fell.

#82 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-08-15 12:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

Don't you think Michael Brown would get physical with a police officer when confronted about the theft if you see video of him getting physical with the store clerk over the theft?

We have to see what the police reports and other accounts bring to light. It is perfectly reasonable to think there might have been an altercation of some sort (that doesn't mean there was, but it is not unreasonable).

#83 | Posted by HeuristicGratis at 2014-08-15 12:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

Don't you think Michael Brown would get physical with a police officer when confronted about the theft if you see video of him getting physical with the store clerk over the theft?

Perhaps innocent until PROVEN guilty was lost somewhere in the translation.

#84 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-08-15 12:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

Perhaps innocent until PROVEN guilty was lost somewhere in the translation.

#84 | POSTED BY KANREI

You speaking about the cop too, right?

#85 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2014-08-15 01:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

You speaking about the cop too, right?

#85 | POSTED BY TONTONMACOUTE AT 2014-08-15 01:03 PM

The cop isn't innocent of killing an armed teen. Those are the facts. There may be mitigating factors, but the fact still remains the cop killed a teen who was unarmed, period.

Just like Zimmerman wasn't "innocent" as he admitted to the shooting.

#86 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-08-15 01:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

"...by inferring the race of the policeman who murdered the victim..."

#80 | POSTED BY TONYROMA

"Perhaps innocent until PROVEN guilty was lost somewhere in the translation."

Don't you agree Kanrei?

#87 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2014-08-15 01:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

"the policeman who murdered the victim."

John Adams would weep

#88 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2014-08-15 01:07 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

"Perhaps innocent until PROVEN guilty was lost somewhere in the translation."

Mike Brown's shooting WAS an alledged murder as defined by the term, or homicide if you prefer for 100% accuracy. It was premeditated and it was intentional. Whether it was JUSTIFIED is up to a court and jury to decide.

#89 | Posted by tonyroma at 2014-08-15 01:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

"I don't see that he's robbing the store. I just see a picture of a young man."

Yes that's all I see too!

Bawahahahahahah

#90 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2014-08-15 01:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

It was premeditated and it was intentional. Whether it was JUSTIFIED is up to a court and jury to decide.

#89 | POSTED BY TONYROMA

---- why have a trial Tony?

#91 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2014-08-15 01:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

I'm sorry if I mistakenly believed that it would be widely agreed upon that the shooting of an unarmed man from a distance of 35 feet away in the course of holding his hands up in surrender fits the definition of murder no matter what this man may have done illegally prior to the shooting itself.

The fact that we can't even agree to something so obvious says quite a bit about our society and the views of those within it.

#92 | Posted by tonyroma at 2014-08-15 01:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

---- why have a trial Tony?

Michael Brown will never have one. I'm pretty sure Officer Wilson will.

I guess the difference eludes you.

#93 | Posted by tonyroma at 2014-08-15 01:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

"It was premeditated and it was intentional. Whether it was JUSTIFIED is up to a court and jury to decide" that "the policeman who murdered the victim." Was justified?

Man you are all over the place.

#94 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2014-08-15 01:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

I'm pretty sure Officer Wilson will.
I guess the difference eludes you.

#93 | POSTED BY TONYROMA

What's the point you already convicted him?

#95 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2014-08-15 01:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

"---- why have a trial Tony?"

Michael Brown will never have one. I'm pretty sure Officer Wilson will.
I guess the difference eludes you.

#93 | POSTED BY TONYROMA

Perhaps but we definitely know "innocent until PROVEN guilty" eludes you.

#96 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2014-08-15 01:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

What's the point you already convicted him?

You aren't too bright are you?

Whether it was JUSTIFIED is up to a court and jury to decide"

Justifiable homicide isn't a crime. Such a determination usually comes from a grand jury or a finding of not guilty in a criminal proceeding.

It what way have I found Wilson guilty or am I denying him his right to be presumed innocent? We KNOW a man is dead and we KNOW how he died. These facts aren't in dispute. His death is a homicide, full stop.

Mike Brown will NEVER face charges for his alleged theft because Officer Wilson took his life by shooting him from 10 yards away because this is the distance from the vehicle to the slain body. What about his life and his day in court? Wilson took that away from him FROM 35 FEET AWAY! Where was Brown's presumption of innocence that you claim I'm denying Wilson? Isn't it criminal to take the life of a suspect prior to trial when the executioner isn't licensed nor threatened by the victim?

I don't have to couch my language because it accurately describes the situation.

#97 | Posted by tonyroma at 2014-08-15 01:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

Same nonsense when people demanded we assume Zimmerman innocent before proven guilty. Zimmerman admitted to shooting Martin. There was no innocence involved, only justification.

Same here. We know the cop killed the kid. There is no gray area there. What is unknown was if the officer was justified in that action.

#98 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-08-15 01:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

Mike Brown's shooting WAS an alledged murder as defined by the term....

#89 | POSTED BY TONYROMA AT 2014-08-15 01:10 PM

What are you whining about? I've already corrected my statement 15 minutes ago.

#99 | Posted by tonyroma at 2014-08-15 01:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

It what way have I found Wilson guilty or am I denying him his right to be presumed innocent? We KNOW a man is dead and we KNOW how he died. These facts aren't in dispute. His death is a homicide, full stop.
Mike Brown will NEVER face charges for his alleged theft because Officer Wilson took his life by shooting him from 10 yards away because this is the distance from the vehicle to the slain body. What about his life and his day in court? Wilson took that away from him FROM 35 FEET AWAY! Where was Brown's presumption of innocence that you claim I'm denying Wilson? Isn't it criminal to take the life of a suspect prior to trial when the executioner isn't licensed nor threatened by the victim?

Just too funny! You retort yourself in your explanation.

#100 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2014-08-15 01:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

#100

Someplace, somewhere a village is missing its idiot and he doesn't even know it.

#101 | Posted by tonyroma at 2014-08-15 01:57 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Funny how it is "alleged" theft but it is MURDER by the police.

Now the truth comes out.

The guy was no "innocent" he just robbed a store and there is a video on it.

He beat up the officer - who feared for his life - and shot a criminal.

If he had not robbed the store he would not have been shot.

If he had not beat up the officer he would not have been shot.

If we had a president who abided by the law the rest of the country would not feel as if they do not have to abide by the law.

If we had a president and Press who supported the police we would not have the 2nd guessing and the thought that "I can riot because I can get away with it."

If we did not have the liberal mind set that the "poor" are "Owed" by the people who bust thier asses working everyday the rioters would not feel empowered to take what "should be mine".

Notice that we are back to the '60s in race relations. When you divide a people and attack the institutions you get this sort of thing. BY the way ...were were Obama, Sharpton, Jackson and the rest when the Black on Black killing was happening there over the last 5 years????? Where was all your anger then???

#102 | Posted by foshaffer at 2014-08-15 02:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

www.cnn.com Sure looks like a nice guy as he steals the cigars from the store (that are used for pot) and shoves the clerk out of the way.

Personally ...he should have been shot then and there.

#103 | Posted by foshaffer at 2014-08-15 02:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

Personally ...he should have been shot then and there.

Just earned your Fascist merit badge I see. Congratulations, your brown shirt is in the mail. COD.

#104 | Posted by tonyroma at 2014-08-15 02:45 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Someplace, somewhere a village is missing its idiot and he doesn't even know it.

#101 | POSTED BY TONYROMA

Don't worry T, just like Bruce Willis in "The Sixth Sense" at the end you finally discover what you really are.

#105 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2014-08-15 04:09 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

Ahh..it is FASCIST to protect your store but it is HONORABLE to loot and burn because you are black, or disadvantaged, or just pissed off for any reason.

Face it...He is a criminal that got what he deserved. No "innocent" young guy (He is the size of an NFL Lineman)who thinks the world (and this store) owed him a living (and those cigars).

But just like Tayvon or OJ a rush to judgement and the "oh he did not deserve it"...only to be proven wrong yet again.

#106 | Posted by foshaffer at 2014-08-15 04:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

Here's my guess.....

Brown will have a juvenile rap sheet....... you think this was his first offense? From what I can see Brown was a bully, someone that intimidated with his size. What he did was a felony.

The officer will get off pretty much scotch free, do to extreme emotional distress of the situation. The victim tried to take his weapon, after which the officer loss his mind.....

The Feds, DoJ (Holder) will then come in a prosecute CivilRights violation, much like the Rodney King case. The officer will go down.....

A head must roll, regardless of the truth at this point.........

Tony will then claim justice was served........ Tony knows Wilson is guilty already, premeditated...

The question is will justice be served? Or is this mob rule?

#107 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-08-15 04:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

#107 Spot on. Obama will not want to be embarrased again and of course the office will pay to protect that. The mob will want justification ...not justice. So we have mob rule.

When the head of the government will not obey the law why should anyone else??

#108 | Posted by foshaffer at 2014-08-15 04:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

We know the cop killed the kid. There is no gray area there. What is unknown was if the officer was justified in that action.

#98 | POSTED BY KANREI

Yep.

#109 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2014-08-15 05:22 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Perhaps innocent until PROVEN guilty was lost somewhere in the translation."

Mike Brown's shooting WAS an alledged murder as defined by the term, or homicide if you prefer for 100% accuracy. It was premeditated and it was intentional. Whether it was JUSTIFIED is up to a court and jury to decide.

#89 | POSTED BY TONYROMA

Was race baiting a written requirement for you to get your job or was it just implicit?

#110 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2014-08-15 05:23 PM | Reply | Flag:

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