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Thursday, August 14, 2014

The leader of an anti-LGBT group who has joined with Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott (R) to ban same-sex marriage had his marriage end after his wife began a romantic relationship with another woman, documents in the couple's divorce indicate. According to court documents obtained by Lone Star Q, Corrine Morris Rodriguez Saenz was dating another woman when she filed for divorce from Jonathan Saenz in 2011. Less than six months later, Jonathan Saenz took over as the president of the state's top anti-gay group, Texas Values.

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Seems odd that he'd want lesbians to keep marrying dudes given his bad experience.

#1 | Posted by Sully at 2014-08-13 12:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

So was she a baby-I-was-born-this-way lesbian in denial or are lesbians just lesbians by choice?

#2 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2014-08-13 03:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

#2 I suspect that her ex-husband was so poorly endowed she just didn't notice for several years that she was married to a man.

#3 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2014-08-13 03:28 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

Tang, are you really looking for an answer, or just pretending to so you can challenge the notion that folks are born with their sexual orientation in place.

Better question is, could you 'decide' to be gay?

Cause I sure couldnt.

We am who we am.

#4 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2014-08-13 04:35 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Karma

#5 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-08-13 08:24 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

#4 I think it's a valid question. My son is gay and has been forever, but I work with a LOT of middle-aged women who got either too old, too fat or too ugly and all of a sudden, they're lesbians.

#6 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2014-08-13 09:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

That's one butt-hurt anti-gay crusader.

#7 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2014-08-14 09:59 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

How many kids do you have Mustang?

#8 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2014-08-14 09:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

Sounds like he shoulda stopped trying to grade other folks' papers before doing his own homework....

#9 | Posted by American1st at 2014-08-14 10:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

Does this mean he can brag for years that he bagged a lesbian?

#10 | Posted by Tor at 2014-08-14 10:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

More like he helped a lesbian find her true calling. Not something I would brag about.

#11 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-08-14 10:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

@ RSTYBEACH11

Maybe he could get some tips from Bill De Blasio.

You know the mayor of New York who goes home every night to an x-lesbian?

#12 | Posted by Tor at 2014-08-14 11:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

Likely she comes from a conservative Catholic upbringing, and married a conservative man because it was expected of her. Finally, with LGBT rights on the march she had the opportunity to break out of her forced hetero marriage, and follow her heart. Good for her!

#13 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2014-08-15 07:33 AM | Reply | Flag:

Did she take his dog and truck when she left?

#14 | Posted by northguy3 at 2014-08-15 07:49 AM | Reply | Flag:

#8 Three.

#15 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2014-08-15 09:51 AM | Reply | Flag:

My theory is that they were beards for each other. Her leaving for a woman was proof to him that you can't just pray the gay away, and he flipped out in an ---- of reaction-formation.

#16 | Posted by ness_gadol at 2014-08-15 11:16 AM | Reply | Flag:

Actually the bible forbids sexual relationships between men, it is mute about the same with women. The old testament is more libertine than most bible trumpeters would like to admit. Neither Judaism or Christianity are ascetic.

#17 | Posted by docnjo at 2014-08-15 12:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

My son is gay and has been forever, but I work with a LOT of middle-aged women who got either too old, too fat or too ugly and all of a sudden, they're lesbians.
#6 | Posted by MUSTANG

Do you think they have active sex lives with their lesbian partners or do they just want to be loved? Perhaps they've been raped so much sex is repulsive to them (and they take steps to drive men away by being fat) and then they simply partner up with like-minded individuals.

Men turn gay in prison. The urge to be with someone is strong.

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-08-15 01:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

#18 But doesn't that conflict with the "born gay" theory? That's sort of my point: either you're born gay or you're not. If you are, then that's who you are. If you're not, then it's a choice you're making for reasons known only to you. "Switching sides" would seem to indicate it is a choice, which undermines the "born that way" arguments. Just an interesting conundrum.

#19 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2014-08-15 01:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

Men turn gay in prison. The urge to be with someone is strong.

#18 | Posted by snoofy

And women "turn" gay in prison. But, are they really "switching sides" or were they always that way but society has forced them to suppress their true feelings.

see-Orange is the new Black.

#20 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-08-15 02:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

That's sort of my point: either you're born gay or you're not.

Committing homosexual acts out of need/desperation/intoxication is not the same as being gay or lesbian.

Drunk chicks make out all the time.

#21 | Posted by ness_gadol at 2014-08-15 04:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

About 2% of the population is Gay. www.washingtonpost.com

So of that group about 50% of those were born with the sexual orientation of gay.

The other 50% choose it. It is this group that the bible condemns but only in the same level as people who drink too much.

"Do not be deceived; dneither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor 1effeminate, nor homosexuals,nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.

And if you repent and stop doing it...sacrifice that ..put down the bottle or the babe and you can be forgiven...."And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God."

#22 | Posted by foshaffer at 2014-08-15 04:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

And if you repent and stop doing it...sacrifice that ..

Here's the error in logic: according to Christian doctrine, you can repent at anytime. Even on the deathbed that which your sin placed you, as long as you repent, the all forgiving God will allow you in.

There is no need to stop, just be sorry for the fact that you won't. That's all it takes, apparently.

But what do I know? Or YOU FOR THAT MATTER?!?!?! AAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!

#23 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-08-15 05:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

About 2% of the population is Gay. www.washingtonpost.com

So of that group about 50% of those were born with the sexual orientation of gay.

The other 50% choose it. It is this group that the bible condemns but only in the same level as people who drink too much.

"Do not be deceived; dneither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor 1effeminate, nor homosexuals,nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.

And if you repent and stop doing it...sacrifice that ..put down the bottle or the babe and you can be forgiven...."And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God."

#22 | Posted by foshaffer a

LINK?

I'd LOOOOVE to hear where you're getting your numbers from that half of adult homosexuals have "chosen" it. And I'd love to see where you get the infomation that the bible only condemns the half of gays who choose it.

So let me get their straight - half of the gays can be gay, and god's cool with that. But the OTHER half are sinning, because their gayness is a choice, even though they express it in the same ways that natural-born gays do, is that it?

Goddamn you are twisting yourself into pretzels now.

And BTW no one is impressed with bible verses besides other people who believe the same mythology. If you're trying to appeal to anyone outside your cult, it serves as a great way to get them to stop listening immediately.

#24 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-08-15 05:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

Speak. The % of gay is from the post. The 50% is my opinion. The bible versus are from 1st Corinthians chapter 6. Like everything that is written it is up to interpretation. That interpretation is mine based on the full context of the chapter.
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As to "mythology" you should be thankful for it. Without Christians the whole world would be like the middle east.

Personally I have seen the life's lead by people who do not believe and seen their suffering. I observe those who believe and their lives are better. Not completely devoid of issues, but a level were you live in peace.

You might believe in Jesus and God our father but he believes in you.

#25 | Posted by foshaffer at 2014-08-16 08:07 AM | Reply | Flag:

As to repentance - you are using human logic - and you may never had children. If you have you would know that no matter what your child has done or how long they have done it -if they came to you asking for forgiveness you would forgive them. Such is the power of love.

#26 | Posted by foshaffer at 2014-08-16 08:12 AM | Reply | Flag:

As to "mythology" you should be thankful for it. Without Christians the whole world would be like the middle east.

Personally I have seen the life's lead by people who do not believe and seen their suffering. I observe those who believe and their lives are better. Not completely devoid of issues, but a level were you live in peace.

You might believe in Jesus and God our father but he believes in you.

Posted by foshaffer at 2014-08-16 08:07 AM | Reply

Proverbs 11:2 ESV

When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with the humble is wisdom.

Jeremiah 9:23 ESV

Thus says the Lord: "Let not the wise man boast in his wisdom, let not the mighty man boast in his might, let not the rich man boast in his riches,

#27 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-08-16 08:18 AM | Reply | Flag:

I love lesbians more than anyone
So why don't lesbians love me?
I want lesbians, each and every one
So why don't lesbians want me?

#28 | Posted by sentinel at 2014-08-16 01:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

Well, at that point, it's any port in a storm...

#29 | Posted by bsulli4207 at 2014-08-16 03:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

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