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Wednesday, August 13, 2014

Dave Johnson, Campaign for America's Future: Problem: Your right-wing brother-in-law is plugged into the Fox-Limbaugh lie machine, and keeps sending you emails about "Obama spending" and "Obama deficits" and how the "stimulus" just made things worse. Solution: Here are three "reality-based" charts to send to him. These charts show what actually happened.

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People who claim that Obama "tripled the deficit" or increased it or anything of the sort are either misled or are trying to mislead. President Obama inherited a budget deficit of $1.4 trillion from President Bush's last budget year and annual budget deficits have gone down dramatically since.

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crickets and tumble weeds from our friends who love facts.

#1 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2014-08-13 10:11 AM | Reply | Flag:

So you don't have to spend government dollars to create jobs?

And the sequestration cuts are working.....thanks...

#2 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-08-13 10:25 AM | Reply | Flag:

Is this on the chart? ...without looking I'll assume it's not.

Retail Sales Plummet

#3 | Posted by DeadSpin at 2014-08-13 10:33 AM | Reply | Flag:

lol, the denial is hilarious.

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2014-08-13 01:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

Hey Jeff!

Some charts here for you.

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2014-08-13 02:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

Lies! All lies, I tell you!

--Your favorite Right-winger

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#6 | Posted by Dave at 2014-08-13 02:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

The truly pig headed will declare the charts lies.

Don't forget the concept of Jüdische Physik and other examples of willful ignorance.

#7 | Posted by Tor at 2014-08-13 02:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

IOW, the charts suggest:

*BUSH DID IT!!!*

#8 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-08-13 03:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

Flag:

Is this on the chart? ...without looking I'll assume it's not.

Retail Sales Plummet

#3 | Posted by DeadSpin

You realize that link is from 2008 when bush was prez, right?

#9 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-08-13 03:13 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 6

Flag:

So you don't have to spend government dollars to create jobs?

And the sequestration cuts are working.....thanks...

#2 | Posted by AndreaMackris

Who said you HAD to spend government dollars to create jobs? Exactly no one.

But government spending is ONE WAY to create jobs, and it works, which is why repubs won't allow it. They'd rather our economy suffer than people get good jobs repairing infrastructure under a dem administration.

#10 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-08-13 03:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

Flag:

Is this on the chart? ...without looking I'll assume it's not.

Retail Sales Plummet

#3 | Posted by DeadSpin

You realize that link is from 2008 when bush was prez, right?

#9 | Posted by SpeakSoftly

hahahahahahahaahahaha

#11 | Posted by truthhurts at 2014-08-13 03:44 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

You'll have to mail it to you right winger friends and also your independent friends because the only people that think the country is on the right track are the people that read Huffpo, Slate, Think Progress, and Salon.

www.rasmussenreports.com

#12 | Posted by Huguenot at 2014-08-13 03:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

do you think corky sends stuff like this to his annoying brother in law or IS corky the annoying brother in law?

The answer is obvious....

#13 | Posted by eberly at 2014-08-13 03:56 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 2

^
LOL

#14 | Posted by Huguenot at 2014-08-13 04:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

I see pretty much everyone laughs at Rasmussen... and deservedly so.

#15 | Posted by Corky at 2014-08-13 04:21 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

You'll have to mail it to you right winger friends and also your independent friends because the only people that think the country is on the right track are the people that read Huffpo, Slate, Think Progress, and Salon.

www.rasmussenreports.com

#12 | Posted by Huguenot

Is there a reason you choose the most unreliable right wing polling site available? Couldn't find anything on "unskewedpolls?"

fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.
com

"Rassmussen Reports was among the least accurate pollsters of the 2012 Election Cycle, tying for 24th with Gallup out of 26 pollsters ranked in one post-election study."

#16 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-08-13 05:18 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

Two charts for Americans that leftist ignore.

www.heritage.org

www.heritage.org

#17 | Posted by RobThomas at 2014-08-13 05:25 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

Two charts for Americans that leftist ignore.

www.heritage.org

www.heritage.org

#17 | Posted by RobThomas

Oh no! We're taking care of old people and sick people! What a waste of money!!

(According to the HERITAGE FOUNDATION.)

Why don't you tell us what Mr. Burns' opinion is, while you're at it?

#18 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-08-13 05:40 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 2

OMG Nancy,
When I was parading the leftwing tripe peddlers I didn't think that you'd offer up such a succinct example of a myopic Democrat worshiper.
Here:

elections.huffingtonpost.com

#20 | Posted by Huguenot at 2014-08-13 06:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

When I was parading the leftwing tripe peddlers I didn't think that you'd offer up such a succinct example of a myopic Democrat worshiper.

#20 | Posted by Huguenot

Then you don't follow my posts. Or you'd know I have no love for democrat politicians, just an overwhelming distaste for republicans.

#21 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-08-13 06:40 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

elections.huffingtonpost.com

#20 | Posted by Huguenot

Of course, I'm sure you attribute absolutely none of that to the republican House.

#22 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2014-08-13 06:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

Why don't you tell us what Mr. Burns' opinion is, while you're at it?

#18 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2014-08-13 05:40 PM | REPLY | FLAG

Dont know this Mr Burns is and really don't care to learn about you fantasies.

You can't argue with the charts or facts so your turn into clown.

The cold truth is entitlements have grown and continue to grow at a rate that is unsustainable. But as long as you get yours....

#23 | Posted by RobThomas at 2014-08-13 07:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

You can't argue with the charts or facts so your turn into clown.

The cold truth is entitlements have grown and continue to grow at a rate that is unsustainable. But as long as you get yours....

#23 | Posted by RobThomas

Entitlements have grown because we have more old people and more poor people.

Entitlements can be fixed and paid for if the republicans would get out of the way. It's hard to have good governance when half the people in government are trying to prove it can't work.

Imagine a corporation trying to function if half the people on the board of directors didn't believe in capitalism and were trying to destroy the corporation.

#24 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-08-13 07:23 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 5

"have no love for democrat politicians, just an overwhelming distaste for republicans."

That's all the establishment dems need from their idiotic sheep. They don't need your love. Just a 100% certainty you'll pull the lever for them every time.

Outside of your voting rights, you are barely a human being to the dems.

It also might explain why the GOP doesn't care about you either.

You are deaf, dumb, and blind. Politically speaking.

Congrats on your progressive growth......

#25 | Posted by eberly at 2014-08-13 07:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

It also might explain why the GOP doesn't care about you either.

You are deaf, dumb, and blind. Politically speaking.

Congrats on your progressive growth......

#25 | Posted by eberly

The GOP doesn't care about anyone who isn't rich. It's a party of rich men winning the votes of morons by using their religion. If you can't see that you're blind.

I don't like the dems, but at least they think we need to take care of the planet.

Even if that's the only good thing about dems, it still beats the ZERO good things about republicans.

#26 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-08-13 07:42 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Deadspin just opened a can of grief for his future on the DR. Wonder if he will just change his handle. (So far, he's hiding from this thread.)

#27 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2014-08-13 08:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

1st. The budget is the preview of Congress. The last two years of Bush was Democrats controlled congress. The only reason it has declined the last two years is due to the Republican congress not spending on everything. This graph also puts the last year deficit under Bush when it was actually Obama as he took control in January.

2) The employment graph is month against month not agreegate. Bush average 5% unemployment. So when the housing burst and the economy tanked jobs were lost. Then we hit bottom and you get the dead cat bounce. What you see is no massive increase in employment that has come after all the prior recessions. You see small bumps as the economy healed a bit.

To post these and act like they show positives depends upon the ignorance of the audience. But since this was targeted at liberals the writer knew he would not be checked or challenged. You would just nod your heads and fall in line.

#28 | Posted by foshaffer at 2014-08-13 09:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

To post these and act like they show positives depends upon the ignorance of the audience. But since this was targeted at liberals the writer knew he would not be checked or challenged. You would just nod your heads and fall in line.

#28 | Posted by foshaffer

Oh you mean like how conservatives are always whining that gasoline is up 200 percent under obama, ignoring that it was so low at the beginning of his presidency because of the wall street crash, and the rising price indicates a recovering economy?

Kind of like that?

#29 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-08-13 09:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

what a load of honey manure, all three charts are misleading; but hey don't the truth stop you. causation is not correlation (repeat 3 times) and rinse

#30 | Posted by danv at 2014-08-14 12:57 AM | Reply | Flag:

Imagine a corporation trying to function if half the people on the board of directors didn't believe in capitalism and were trying to destroy the corporation.

Corporations have a dictator called a CEO. Our govt doesn't have that. A CEO can make decisions without having to coerce the other side, our executive has to try to bring the other side along. Saying why don't you guys do what we want to do and ignoring the other side's wants isn't a way to govern..

#31 | Posted by boaz at 2014-08-14 02:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

Corporations have a dictator called a CEO. Our govt doesn't have that. A CEO can make decisions without having to coerce the other side, our executive has to try to bring the other side along. Saying why don't you guys do what we want to do and ignoring the other side's wants isn't a way to govern..

#31 | Posted by boaz

No but it is the explanation of why government can't seem to do anything right - because republicans actively campaign to KEEP it from doing anything right.

They're like a mechanic who tells your car is unreliable and they can fix it for you, after pouring sand in your gas tank.

#32 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-08-14 02:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

Boaz and Speak - you are still blaming Republicans when they have had not a single piece of policy passed in 8 years?? With Ried and Holder having Obamas back and Ried blocking every piece of legislation?

Tell me 2 - just 2 policies that Obama has enacted that have increased private sector employment. I can give you 10 where he has killed it...but give me 2 where he has increased it. He has been in office for 6 years. He and the Democrats had total control for 2 of the 6.

I cannot believe you call yourselfs Americans yet support a documented liar - the likes that this country has never seen prior - a person without a SINGLE foriegn policy success nor a single domestic one.

#33 | Posted by foshaffer at 2014-08-14 04:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

Boaz and Speak - you are still blaming Republicans when they have had not a single piece of policy passed in 8 years?? With Ried and Holder having Obamas back and Ried blocking every piece of legislation?

Tell me 2 - just 2 policies that Obama has enacted that have increased private sector employment. I can give you 10 where he has killed it...but give me 2 where he has increased it. He has been in office for 6 years. He and the Democrats had total control for 2 of the 6.

I cannot believe you call yourselfs Americans yet support a documented liar - the likes that this country has never seen prior - a person without a SINGLE foriegn policy success nor a single domestic one.

#33 | Posted by foshaffer a

1. Green energy tax credits helped create TESLA - now building their new gigafactory and the biggest rising star in the automotive world.
2. Infrastructure spending - PRIVATE firms are hired to do public projects, such as widening the 405 freeway in los angeles, which was just completed.

But we know, every hick in the trailer park tells you obama hasn't done anything, so it must be true right?

second, I don's support obama, I just strongly oppose the republicans who don't give a crap about the environment or anyone who isn't rich. They are actively trying to block anything that might create jobs, so they can call him a failure.

And lastly, If you hate liars, you must REALLY hate the guy who came before obama.

#34 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-08-14 05:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

1) The Infrastructure spending - The only increase in infrastructure spendind directed by Obama was part of stimulus package and it only was 3% of the total ...www.mrc.org The total job creation under stimulus was 250K.....so 3% of 250K is 7500. We need to create 300K PER MONTH just to keep employment level.

2) Tesla - Tesla Motors was incorporated in July 2003 by Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning, who financed the company until the Series A round of funding. Both men played active roles in the company's early development prior to Elon Musk's involvement
In addition to his daily operational roles, Musk was the controlling investor in Tesla from the first financing round, funding the large majority of the Series A capital investment round of US$7.5 million with personal funds. Musk received the Global Green 2006 product design award for his design. Musk later led Tesla Motors' Series B, US$13 million, investment round that added Valor Equity Partners to the funding team. Musk co-led the third, US$40 million round in May 2006 along with Technology Partners. Tesla's third round included investment from prominent entrepreneurs including Google co-founders Sergey Brin & Larry Page, former eBay President Jeff Skoll, Hyatt heir Nick Pritzker and added the VC firms

So explain to me again how Obama policy started and funded Tesla Motors when it started in 2003 and had over 40M in working capital plus billionair VC firms backing it in 2007???

I can list the billions lost on funding Obama cronies via the stimulus..

As to liars ...you can argue what Bush did or did not know about Iraq. But name another one? I can give you 300 Obama has told ..and that list is still growing ...like this week when he said he did not pull out of Iraq ...after spending the prior campaign running up and down taking credit for it.

As to employment bills....Talk to Harry Ried ...he is blocking over 200 as we speak. And I love your condesending attitude with the Trailer Park jibe. Typical liberal. Person attack. Holier than thou attitude. No grasp of facts.

#35 | Posted by foshaffer at 2014-08-14 05:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

As to employment bills....Talk to Harry Ried ...he is blocking over 200 as we speak. And I love your condesending attitude with the Trailer Park jibe. Typical liberal. Person attack. Holier than thou attitude. No grasp of facts.

#35 | Posted by foshaffer

You realize every bill they send to reid has poison pills in them, usually trying to repeal obamacare, right?

You think bush only told that 1 lie? (even though it was the biggest one in american history)
use google.
www.sfgate.com
"The 935 lies of George W. Bush "

#36 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-08-14 06:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

If the theoretical in-law has any brains he will want to know why the charts don't start the year Obama was elected. :(

The fact that they don't makes me question them though I know the economy is doing better than it was under W.

#37 | Posted by Tor at 2014-08-14 06:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

1st. All of those so called "lies" under Bush was counting how many times he made the same statement about a single topic -Iraq- and it is based on what they think was false.

2nd If we used the same method on Obama it would be in the hundred thousands. Because it is not one topic like Iraq - it is 300 SEPARATE topics. IRS, You can keep your doctor, It was a Video, I told them to do all they could" etc.

3rd None of the 200 have removal of Obama care in them. There are about 50 that have some impact on Obama care but those are not counted in the over 200.

#38 | Posted by foshaffer at 2014-08-14 08:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

If the theoretical in-law has any brains he will want to know why the charts don't start the year Obama was elected. :(

Because the world did not begin Jan 20th 2009?

Those charts show the comparison between Bush Spending and Obama spending and the Bush Deficit and the Obama Deficit and the Obama Jobs vs Bush jobs. If they started the year Obama was elected how could you compare the two?

The actually should start back when Reagan was elected so we could see the trend. But, those are available if you wanna look for them.

www.google.com

#39 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-08-14 08:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

1st. All of those so called "lies" under Bush was counting how many times he made the same statement about a single topic -Iraq- and it is based on what they think was false.
#38 | POSTED BY FOSHAFFER

You have an despicably selective memory: "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job." -- GW Bush (2005)

Did Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld's war in Iraq distract you from Bush's ties to Kenneth Lay and Enron?

That's a shame.

#40 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-08-14 08:28 PM | Reply | Flag:

But as stated, with any analysis, it does nothing of the sort. The Bush job graphs is an economy coming down from low employment and once it reaches high unemployment then it bounces. Notice the graphic starts after the housing starts to crash Not BEFORE when he was creating 350k jobs a month instead of the 150k Obama has been riding. Just pull the Dept. Of Commerce numbers. Spending is the control of Congress so just look at who ran congress when.

But I know you won't. You don't care what the truth is of you wouldn't support the worst president and the obvious downfall of the USA. There is not a single thing you can point to where we are better off.

#41 | Posted by foshaffer at 2014-08-14 08:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

1.The article you referenced and posted only looked at Iraq and counted as "lies" what Bush said about Iraq based upon what the intelligence presented.

2. "The Democrats got almost $1 million of the soft money that Enron gave. If a a million in contributions didn't corrupt Democrats, how can they argue, now and in the future, that campaign contributions corrupt the Republicans?" And Who has selective memory?

Enron gave more money to the Democrats than to Republicans. They received no consideration from the Bush administration as the regulation they wanted blocked was put in place.

#42 | Posted by foshaffer at 2014-08-14 09:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

They received no consideration from the Bush administration as the regulation they wanted blocked was put in place.
#42 | POSTED BY FOSHAFFER

Read it and weep: www.consortiumnews.com

#43 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-08-14 10:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

Hahahahaha... consortium news as a valid source!!! Typical leftest. Just read yhings that agree with your point of view.. and if THAT isn't bad enough lets just spin and make stuff up until it does.

Here is what even left wing Time had to say.

content.time.com

Still does not even come close to "You can keep your doctor" or going to the US and saying "the video did it" or " not a smidgen of scandal at the IRS while the PCs continue to "crash".

#44 | Posted by foshaffer at 2014-08-15 06:54 AM | Reply | Flag:

Hahahahaha... consortium news as a valid source!!! Typical leftest. Just read yhings that agree with your point of view.. and if THAT isn't bad enough lets just spin and make stuff up until it does.

I truly don't know why good people take the time to respond to your abject ignorance. Here is the author of the article posted on Consortium and his background as a journalist:

Robert Parry broke many of the Iran-Contra stories in the 1980s for the Associated Press and Newsweek. His latest book, Secrecy & Privilege: Rise of the Bush Dynasty from Watergate to Iraq, can be ordered at secrecyandprivilege.com. It's also available at Amazon.com, as is his 1999 book, Lost History: Contras, Cocaine, the Press & 'Project Truth.'

An investigative reporter that has broken stories since the 1980's is non-credible? No, he's entirely credible and your baseless accusation is simply a bad joke.

#45 | Posted by tonyroma at 2014-08-15 09:52 AM | Reply | Flag:

Robert Parry joined the Associated Press in 1974, moving to its Washington bureau in 1977. After the 1980 presidential election he was assigned to its Special Assignment (investigative reporting) unit, where he began working on Central America.[1] In 1982 Parry noted the treatment received by the New York Times' Raymond Bonner, who was vilified and pushed out after reporting on the El Mozote massacre, an incident deeply unhelpful to the US government's effort to support the El Salvador government.[1]

Parry was awarded the George Polk Award for National Reporting in 1984 for his work with the Associated Press on Iran-Contra, where he broke the story that the Central Intelligence Agency had provided an assassination manual to the Nicaraguan Contras (Psychological Operations in Guerrilla Warfare).[2][3] In mid-1985 he wrote the first article on Oliver North's involvement in the affair, and, together with Brian Barger, in late 1985 he broke the CIA and Contras cocaine trafficking in the US scandal,[4] helping to spark Senator John Kerry's interest in investigating Iran-Contra.[5]

In November 1995, Parry established Consortium News as an online ezine dedicated to investigative journalism, describing it in 2004 as "a home for important, well-reported stories that weren't welcome in the O.J. Simpson-obsessed, conventional-wisdom-driven national news media of that time". From 2000 to 2004, he also worked for the financial wire service Bloomberg.[11] en.wikipedia.org(journalist)


I guess this invalidates your absurd aspersions upon Parry's journalistic character, huh?

#46 | Posted by tonyroma at 2014-08-15 11:33 AM | Reply | Flag:

No.

The guy points out that Bush recieved 1.1 M from Enron...what he fails to point out is CLINTON recieved the same.

His entire spin is Bush tried to get Enron a power plant in India.

That is what GOOD presidents do...try to get US companies business overseas....versus OBAMA who took US TAX PAYER money to fund his Friends. Solenyndra anyone? BILLIONS of graft there.

Funny how you fall back on BLAME BUSH when this tread started with a couple of graphs which were easily discredited.

You are an AMERICAN ..you see your country going to hell and a president that has been in office for 6 years and has generated 8 major scandals...any ONE which would have taken out a prior president. But with the HOLDER and REID and the press having his back he has survived. YET you still have to do BLAME BUSH as you have nothing else to fall back on.

A one trick pony grows old after a while for even for the most ardent admirers.

#47 | Posted by foshaffer at 2014-08-15 11:54 AM | Reply | Flag:

You do realize that the story is based on things that transpired in 2000 and afterwards don't you? Clinton wasn't on the ballot and the connections exposed were during Bush's presidency, not Clinton's.

All you do is obfuscate from the information presented to you, deflecting toward other information that doesn't impact the topic actually being discussed. No one has argued that Clinton didn't receive money from Enron: NEWSFLASH: Most multi-national corporations donate to BOTH PARTIES because they need to work with whatever one actually wins! This alone isn't evidence of identical corruption unless you'd like to provide something analogous that Enron got from Clinton that they got from Bush.

Bush had ties to Lay and Enron that Clinton didn't. That isn't the same as saying Clinton had NO relationship with Enron. Perhaps you should learn the difference and keep your smears limited to those who deserve them.

#48 | Posted by tonyroma at 2014-08-15 12:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

Hahahahaha... consortium news as a valid source!!!

Yes it is. Here is more on Bush's lies from OTHER valid sources:

With the Justice Department and Congress ratcheting up investigations into the Enron Corporation, President Bush is seeking to play down his relationship with Enron's embattled chairman, Kenneth L. Lay. But their ties are broad and deep and go back many years, and the relationship has been beneficial to both.

In the Oval Office yesterday, Mr. Bush said that Mr. Lay ''was a supporter of Ann Richards in my run in 1994'' for governor of Texas and that he first got to know Mr. Lay after that race.

But Mr. Lay appears to have been a bigger supporter of Mr. Bush in that race, as he and his wife, Linda, contributed $37,500 to the Bush gubernatorial campaign -- three times the amount, according to a database maintained by The Dallas Morning News, that they donated to Ms. Richards. Mr. Lay has also told interviewers that prior to that election he had become ''very close'' to Mr. Bush.

www.nytimes.com

Furthermore:

The attempt made in the piece of netlore quoted above to deflect blame from the Bush administration to dump it onto the Clinton White House includes some major innaccuracies, such as the claim that "the Enron chairman stayed at the White House 11 times" during President Bill Clinton's tenure in office. But as Brendan Nyhan revealed in a 2002 article, Enron CEO Kenneth Lay was never an overnight visitor at the White House during the Clinton administration - although, according to Nyhan, "Lay did, however, stay at the White House when George H.W. Bush was president."

As well, given the General Accounting Office's investigation into connections between Enron and Vice President Dick Cheney's planning of Bush administration energy policy, "the corporation's access to the adiminstration at its highest levels" apparentaly continued well after Bill Clinton left the White House. Accoring to USA Today:

Enron spent nearly three times as much money lobbying the Bush administration in the first half of 2001 as it initially reported.

The collapsed energy-trading company spent at least $2.46 million on efforts to influence energy and budget decisions and support its international ventures, according to an amended lobbying report Enron filed with the House and Senate on March 1.


As for the supposedly shocking monetary figures bandied about ("Enron gave $420,000 to the [Democratic] president's party over three years. It donated $100,000 to the president's inauguration festivities."), those numbers don't come close to matching what was reported about Enron's contributions to George W. Bush and the Republican party in The Hartford Courant:
Since 1989, the Houston-based energy broker and its employees have made more than $5.7 million in contributions to federal candidates and political parties, nearly three-quarters of it to Republicans. Enron was George W. Bush's biggest contributor in the 2000 presidential campaign.

Nor do they match what the New York Times uncovered:
Enron, Arthur Andersen and Vinson & Elkins, a Houston law firm, are among the most generous contributors to Mr. Bush's 2000 presidential campaign. Enron has given more than $700,000 to Mr. Bush since 1993; no company has given him more. In addition, Enron's chairman, Kenneth L. Lay, was one of the "pioneers," raising more than $100,000 for Mr. Bush's email compaign, and he and his wife gave a total of $10,000 to Mr. Bush's Florida recount fund. Enron and Mr. Lay also contributed a total of $200,000 to Mr. Bush's inaugural festivities.

http://www.snopes.com/ politics/clintons/enron.asp

#49 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-08-15 03:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

Still does not even come close to "You can keep your doctor" or going to the US and saying "the video did it" or " not a smidgen of scandal at the IRS while the PCs continue to "crash".
#44 | POSTED BY FOSHAFFER

B. Hussein Obama was not the topic of concern. Bushes lies are what's being debated. Obama has lied, a lot. That does not mitigate the lying that Bush and Co. engaged in with NUMEROUS topics other than Iraq.

#50 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-08-15 03:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

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