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Monday, August 11, 2014

M.C. Moewe, Daily Kos: Claire Reeves founded Mothers Against Sexual Abuse (MASA) in 1992 in response to the number of children being returned by the courts to parents accused of abusing them. The 72-year-old psychologist testifies in family courts in the U.S., Canada and the United Kingdom. "The courts are not any better in those countries," she said of officials handing children over to sexual predators. "It happens so frequently it's beyond belief."

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After reviewing hundreds of cases in the past 20 years, she concluded that only four involved fraudulent reports of child abuse. In most cases, clear evidence of abuse is being ignored by the authorities. "I think we are still stuck in the old mode of 'the man in the over-sized raincoat who flashes children is the problem,'" Reeves said. "The problem is most likely in the family."

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Children are born with an innate sense of fairness. They all are quick to say, "that's not fair". So let's listen to them. But, let's not put words in their mouths, as so many wacko shrinks have done across this country with fake child abuse cases. Many child care professionals across this country have been locked up after being accused of devil worship, sexual abuse and even goat sacrifice in child care bathrooms when any rational person should recognize how impossible it is to conduct these rituals in a day care facility without any adults noticing. This very real US history is an indictment of social workers and psychologists more than parents.

#1 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-08-11 02:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

In family courts, false accusations of abuse are far less common than parents and children being called liars when they claim abuse is happening.

If a parent suspects abuse is happening in the home, they are better off waiting to say anything until they've collected real evidence (such as with a hidden nanny cam) and taking it to police. Family court judges cannot be relied on to protect abused children.

My wife wrote the linked piece, which is her 10th story in the last 10 weeks filed on Daily Kos. It is a crisis that should be the subject of Congressional hearings.

#2 | Posted by rcade at 2014-08-11 02:23 PM | Reply | Flag:

who cries for the children????

i do....

www.youtube.com

#3 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-08-11 02:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

Since the name of the organisation is Mothers Against Sexual Abuse (because women never do wrong), I ain't buyin' it. Probably just another anti-father misandry group.

#4 | Posted by visitor_ at 2014-08-11 02:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

Since the name of the organisation is Mothers Against Sexual Abuse (because women never do wrong), I ain't buyin' it. Probably just another anti-father misandry group."

yeah, like madd...

face/palm

#5 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-08-11 02:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

I'm throwing a penalty flag on Visitor_ for not reading the story before commenting. 15 yards and loss of down.

A quote from the piece:

"Despite her organization's name, Reeves is quick to point out that women are being identified more often as sexual predators than in the past. 'In a case I am working on now a mother has custody of her boy even though she is a registered sex offender,' Reeves said."

Not everything in life is about men being mistreated by mean ol' wimmenfolk.

#6 | Posted by rcade at 2014-08-11 02:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

I read the article. She's a paid expert witness that has only seen 4 false accusations in 20 years.

#7 | Posted by visitor_ at 2014-08-11 02:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

"If a parent suspects abuse is happening in the home, they are better off waiting to say anything until they've collected real evidence (such as with a hidden nanny cam) and taking it to police."

But doesn't gathering such evidence necessitate that you allow your child to be molested "one more time" so you can catch it on tape? That hardly seems better than just keeping your kid away from the molestor and letting him walk...

#8 | Posted by Sully at 2014-08-11 03:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

She's a paid expert witness that has only seen 4 false accusations in 20 years.
#7 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

False accusations occur in about 10% of the cases, and typically occur in the context of a divorce.

"Despite her organization's name, Reeves is quick to point out that women are being identified more often as sexual predators than in the past. 'In a case I am working on now a mother has custody of her boy even though she is a registered sex offender,' Reeves said."

Not everything in life is about men being mistreated by mean ol' wimmenfolk.
#6 | POSTED BY RCADE

This is empirical evidence, hardly shows the reality that .... in which 1%-4% of those accused are female.

I am not sure what the point here is, the are an incredible number of fathers that are accused of sexual abuse during the divorce and its used as a tool for custody, which the article glosses over quite readily.

#9 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-08-11 03:35 PM | Reply | Flag:

All it takes to be a registered sex offender in this country is to get caught taking a leak in the wrong place, or be an 18 year old male with a 16 year old girlfriend.

#10 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-08-11 03:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

All it takes to be a registered sex offender in this country is to get caught taking a leak in the wrong place, or be an 18 year old male with a 16 year old girlfriend.

#10 | POSTED BY NUTCASE

Very true. It also speaks to how fundamentally over-reaching the definition of 'sex-offender' truly is. But in this country we've been criminalizing more and more things. It's a scary trajectory we are on.

#11 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-08-11 04:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

But in this country we've been criminalizing more and more things. It's a scary trajectory we are on.

#11 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-08-11 04:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

Prisons are big business. Not just the private facilities but also all the suppliers and services involved. I recently learned that they even sell special digital music players in prisons and the associated company runs its own version of "iTunes".

#12 | Posted by Sully at 2014-08-11 04:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

But in this country we've been criminalizing more and more things. It's a scary trajectory we are on.

#11 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-08-11 04:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

AMEN JeffJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#13 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-08-11 04:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

Dad,
Don't wait to collect real evidence. That would be child abuse as well. Please act now so I can stop being abused.
-children

#14 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2014-08-11 04:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

That hardly seems better than just keeping your kid away from the molestor and letting him walk...

A parent can't keep a child away from an abuser when an abuser is the other parent. Absent a criminal case, the decision is made by family courts whether abuse is happening, and courts are often taking custody rights away from the parent who alleged abuse and putting the children with the parent who might be abusing them.

#15 | Posted by rcade at 2014-08-11 05:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

... the are an incredible number of fathers that are accused of sexual abuse during the divorce and its used as a tool for custody, which the article glosses over quite readily.

There are some false accusations being made, but people who work in the courts and deal with parents in these situations say the far more common scenario is for credible allegations of sexual abuse to be ignored or disregarded by family courts.

If you're a parent and you suspect sexual abuse is happening, and your soon-to-be-ex spouse has more money and better lawyers, if you tell the family courts your suspicions you run the risk of being accused of Parental Alienation Syndrome, which is widely discredited among psychologists. The judge may bar you from anything but supervised custody of your child.

Judges and custody evaluators should be taking abuse claims seriously and talking to the children (often a judge doesn't have even one conversation with them).

#16 | Posted by rcade at 2014-08-11 05:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

Don't wait to collect real evidence. That would be child abuse as well.

It's sadder for the parent concerned about abuse to lose all custody and the kid to be trapped by the courts with an abuser.

#17 | Posted by rcade at 2014-08-11 05:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

Unreal solutions for child sexual abuse, about which society turned a blind eye for centuries.
And Jesus' mother was a virgin.

#18 | Posted by kenx at 2014-08-11 08:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

When abuse charges emerge during a divorce, with no past history, they are highly suspect.

Family Law Courts are something between a farce and a tragedy. They are incapable of discerning truth. Easily manipulated by well connected lawyers. All eyes are on the accused when a woman alleges abuse. This will automatically get a Father kicked out of the house whether its a lie or not. Not so for Fathers, who better bring hard evidence or they will be trounced financially and custodially. Sometimes the Courts get it right and sometimes wrong. But that is a matter of luck or conniving by one of the attorneys, not the system, which is designed only to so impoverish parents and enrich insiders, that it brings business minded parents to a quick settlement. If both are not business minded and mutually respectful, which they rarely are, parents are impoverished to the detriment of their children and few if any insiders care. They take the money and blame their victims, a familiar pattern in our Capitalist Society. Insiders that really care get burned out quickly.

#19 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-08-11 09:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

Any doctor worth his salt can diagnose sexual abuse in a simple exam. Dentist are taught to look for signs of abuse, as are school nurses. Do not expect the children to say much, they are conditioned not to. The sad fact is the care giver who spends the most time with the kid is usually the abuser.Still a majority slip through the cracks...
I lived with the consequence of serious sexual abuse for decades. Her abuser eventually spent 20 years in a Texas prison for raping a 24 month old girl. He is out now, he lives in Houston Texas. His son, my step son has swore to kill the SOB if he ever sees him. My oldest, the victim, has had problems with substance abuse and relationships. I feel that Wane Merritt has not paid his debt yet. Maybe I'll cruse down to Houston and prevent my step son from collecting vengeance and screwing up his life. Of course some leave a mess for others to clean up, I have a few issues with him myself. If I have my way his passing will not be quick, not by a long shot. I would get medieval on him, and enjoy it for days. Me, I am old and sick and don't count on being around much longer, at least prisoners have a right to medical care.

#20 | Posted by docnjo at 2014-08-11 09:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

#20 ~ it's an understandable fantasy, but you do not really want to go there. We don't have anything, really, but faith for an Afterlife in which perfect justice is meted out. i have very strong belief in It, having experienced things that were not my imagination; and 1) Mr Merritt is in for much more, much longer suffering than you could ever deliver, and 2) which you could not achieve without damage to yourself. The first part i cannot claim to know as fact; but the second part i do know is a fact.

#21 | Posted by kenx at 2014-08-12 04:35 AM | Reply | Flag:

Kenx. You are right, I am probily just feeling guilty. I did not think this monster would be getting out early. I should have got the police reports in Lawton Oklahoma from 1987 and sent them to the parole board. I never dreamed they would have flushed this pile of crap out early. There is a misconception that the damage done by sexual abuse is limited. His acts have poisoned the lives of a number of people. It took 25 years to poison my marriage, It has screwed up the potential relationships of several good men with my daughter, it has left my third child lost in a lifestyle that is destitute and desperate. All because some ass hat likes to screw little girls, like five year old. I guess I will have to give him to my God, but every breath he takes, pisses me off.

#22 | Posted by docnjo at 2014-08-12 05:40 AM | Reply | Flag:

Easy to verify, check out the Texas registry for sex offenders, BTW the age of the victim is the CURRENT age.

#23 | Posted by docnjo at 2014-08-12 05:51 AM | Reply | Flag:

When abuse charges emerge during a divorce, with no past history, they are highly suspect. Family Law Courts are something between a farce and a tragedy. They are incapable of discerning truth.

Sadly, that's often a true statement. We should be able to count on family court judges to determine when credible suspicions of child abuse or child sex abuse are happening and respond accordingly to protect the victims.

At a minimum, when a parent reports abuse and the court determines it is a credible suspicion, it should not punish that parent while giving custody to the alleged abuser.

I don't know how a judge who does that can sleep at night.

#24 | Posted by rcade at 2014-08-12 12:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

"A parent can't keep a child away from an abuser when an abuser is the other parent."

Its a fair point.

I mean there are things they can do but none of them are legal.

The best thing to do would be to contact that authorities before filing for divorce. Much more credible that way.

#26 | Posted by Sully at 2014-08-12 04:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

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