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Sunday, August 10, 2014

A police officer in Ferguson, Missouri, shot an unarmed 18-year-old man to death outside an apartment building on Saturday afternoon, prompting an angry crowd of 200 to gather at the site with some shouting "kill the police." The NAACP called for an investigation into the shooting of Michael Brown. Louis Head, Brown's stepfather, held a sign that read "Ferguson police just executed my unarmed son!" the St. Louis Post Dispatch reported.

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A photo of Brown lying dead on the street circulated on Twitter and a #MikeBrown hashtag attracted numerous tweets protesting the shooting. Brown was scheduled to start college classes Monday.

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Oh, we see a pattern alright.

#2 | Posted by Harry_Powell at 2014-08-10 09:11 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 3

Mike Brown was shot 8 times while unarmed with his hands in the air. Yeah, totally reasonable use of force.

#3 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2014-08-10 09:18 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

johnny_hotsauce, who is your source? Don't believe much you might hear, especially in the first 24 hours, especially in a black 'hood. Been there, seen that.

#4 | Posted by docnjo at 2014-08-10 09:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

Don't believe much you might hear, especially in the first 24 hours, especially in a black 'hood. Been there, seen that.

#4 | POSTED BY DOCNJO AT 2014-08-10 09:32 PM | FLAG:

More likely to believe them than the occupying army of thugs and gangsters we currently call the police.

That will change when cops no longer have such a record that I can DAILY pick up a new story of them shooting pets, using excessive force on already fully apprehended people, or deliberately falsifying evidence and not even being charged for it, let alone convicted.

I do not have a problem with the social necessity of law and order.

I most certainly have a problem with the type of authoritarian bully who would become a cop in today's militarized drug-war fighting and covering for each other at any expense forces, that for some reason in this day and age of user-friendly cheap technology do not want to be on camera while performing a public service.

End the war on drugs, mandate personal cameras at all times, and employ civilian review boards, and I might begin consistently siding with the police again even.

#5 | Posted by zeropointnrg at 2014-08-10 10:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

St. Louis County Chief of Police, Jon Bekmar, stated in his press conference today that Brown was unarmed. Multiple eye witnesses have told local media that his hands were in the air when shot. Mike Brown's mother claims that the police told her he was shot 8 times. Eye witnesses have also claimed that 8-10 shots were fired.

In addition to that, police have said that more than a couple of shots were fired but we're not specific. They also have not said why the officer initially engaged Brown and the friend that was walking with him.

#6 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2014-08-10 10:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

10,000 black people kill 10,000 other black people every year for 50 years running.

Those cases don't generate headlines.
No calls for civil rights investigations; no demands for justice.

I will stop right there: it would be racist to see a pattern.

#1 | Posted by pajama_boy

You know every time something like this happen some dumb ass rightwinger
will post stuff like this, black on black crime.
yeah it is bad, but you freaks seem to think that this dismisses any other out rage that happens in the black community, "well you know there is black on black crime so this little murder here by a cop is no big deal"
that is your typical right winger is actually saying when posting that crap.
And yes I know you will deny that, you will claim what you are really saying that black on black is far worse then a occasional cop unjustly killing, but what you are really doing is dismissing this out rage.
you right wingers hardly ever bring up black on black crime unless something like this happens

#7 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2014-08-10 10:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

Its amazing how anyother time someone is shot no one sees anything, and now everyone sees everthing. Without passing judgement lets see what the ME report says. Those 8 shots might end up being 2, those shots in the back may end up being exit wounds. There may be dash cam video.

In other news the MSM has released the names of the couple who called police in the Ohio Walmart shooting. "he had a machine gun and was talking on the phone" to paraphrase. Seeing black people with guns really scares liberals...

#8 | Posted by aescal at 2014-08-10 10:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

Mini riots starting

Video of looters

Couple of gas stations, JC Penny store supposedly on fire.

Looks like police switched frequencies, but some chatter coming through on county band

East St Louis Police Band

#9 | Posted by aescal at 2014-08-10 11:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Seeing black people with guns really scares liberals..."

How did you determine the 911 callers were liberals? Boaz-dar?

#10 | Posted by REDIAL at 2014-08-11 12:32 AM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 2

" JC Penny store supposedly on fire. "

Wow. A JC Penny's still exists? Now that'd news!

#11 | Posted by harry_powell at 2014-08-11 12:44 AM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

Maybe I'll go see the Rev. Sharpton when he visits this week.

#12 | Posted by jpw at 2014-08-11 01:06 AM | Reply | Flag:

The first news article I read about this said that a cop was pushed back into his cruiser as he attempted to exit and that shots were fired from inside his cruiser during that altercation. I think there's a lot more to this story that we haven't heard.

What I can say with absolute certainty is that a number of residents of Ferguson are using this as an excuse to loot and destroy their own town, likely to their own detriment. You think retailers are going to rebuild in that area now? Who did those stores employ that are now unemployed?

#13 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2014-08-11 07:56 AM | Reply | Flag:

I don't know what to think about this. I need to hear the edited 911 tapes on CNN and watch Don Lemon make some little black kids cry before I make my decision.

#14 | Posted by shirtsbyeric at 2014-08-11 09:24 AM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

"You know every time something like this happen some dumb ass rightwinger will post stuff like this, black on black crime."

It really is amazing considering how stupid it is. Might be the most obvious and retarded apples to oranges comparison made on this site regularly. Civilians, black or white, who use unnecessary violence on other people and are identified as having done so face consequences. Our jails are full of them. The public outrage isn't there over such incidents because its understood that society doesn't condone the violence. If the guilty is identified something will be done. And cases that don't conform to that pattern DO generate headlines. When a cop uses unnecessary violence, the first reaction of the powers that be is to deny and cover up. It is as if such violence is officially sanctioned. That is why there is public outcry.

In this particular incident, its not clear what happened.

#15 | Posted by Sully at 2014-08-11 09:53 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

Was he wearing a hoodie?

#16 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-08-11 09:56 AM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

Nothing screams outrage like a looted pair of Nike's.

#17 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2014-08-11 11:48 AM | Reply | Flag:

johnny_hotsauce, who is your source? Don't believe much you might hear, especially in the first 24 hours, especially in a black 'hood. Been there, seen that.

#4 | Posted by docnjo at 2

some chatter that he made a move for the cop's gun.....but once again, here we go....

coming will be gun control hacks who REALLY DON"T want gun control but confiscation...

looting that has nothing to do with this except for a chance to steal stuff....

al sharpton and jesse...no further comment needed....

#18 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-08-11 01:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

yeah I know it says he didn't have one...gun confiscation freaks won't care about that.....

but I DO KNOW,...stealing a new tv...THAT"S GONNA SHOW WHITEY WHAT FOR !!!!!

#19 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-08-11 01:57 PM | Reply | Flag:

Johnson said the officer didn't get out of his police car, but "reach[ed] his arm out the window and grabbed my friend around the neck."

Must have been the longest arm of the law in history.

#20 | Posted by RobThomas at 2014-08-11 02:28 PM | Reply | Flag:

but I DO KNOW,...stealing a new tv...THAT"S GONNA SHOW WHITEY WHAT FOR !!!!!
#19 | POSTED BY AFKABL2

What do you suppose will be remembered by this? The death of another black teen or the riots and looting that ensued subsequently?

IOW, you (and they) are right! If there's anything that the poor, disenfranchised segments of Missouri can do to get the country's (see WHITEY) attention, it is conducting in more violence. But that's a symptom and reaction to their feelings of being treated differently. You're unable to empathize with those feelings?

Why am I not surprised?

NOTE: Please do not misconstrue the above as an indication that I condone crime or violence.

#21 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-08-11 02:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

How many white people have to die before something is done about gun control?

#22 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2014-08-11 03:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

guaranteed most of the looters had no connection with the shot teenager. People just saw a chance for free ---- and went for it, knowing theyll be protected by those empathizing with their plight. Just round em all up after they post on fb and twitter about how they got away.

#23 | Posted by monkeylogic42 at 2014-08-11 03:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

Its being reported that the police officer that shot Mike Brown was AA.

#24 | Posted by aescal at 2014-08-11 04:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

Just watched a bunch of videos of the looting. I was shocked to see a lack of diversity in the looters. Liberals everywhere should be outraged at blacks for not being diverse enough in their looting endeavors.

Now, when no legit retailer wants to put a grocery store there the same empty heads can cry racism.

#25 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2014-08-11 04:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

Wrestling a gun away from a police officer is not cause for the death penalty.

#26 | Posted by pajama_boy at 2014-08-11 04:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

Wrestling a gun away from a police officer is not cause for the death penalty.

Posted by pajama_boy at 2014-08-11 04:49 PM | Reply

IF IF IF That is what happened.

#27 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-08-11 04:52 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Witnesses tell News 4 that Mike Brown, 18, was unarmed and had his hands in the air when he was shot multiple times by a Ferguson police officer.

Dorian Johnson tells News 4 he was walking with Brown when the officer confronted them and drew his weapon.

"He (the officer) shot again and once my friend felt that shot, he turned around and put his hands in the air," said Dorian Johnson, a friend Brown's. "He started to get down and the officer still approached with his weapon drawn and fired several more shots.

St. Louis County NAACP President Esther Haywood told News 4 that Brown was shot once by the officer and then an additional nine times as he lie in the street. Police have not confirmed that account. www.kmov.com


If this account is true the officer should be tried for murder in the first degree.

#28 | Posted by tonyroma at 2014-08-11 05:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

If there is a bullet hole inside the police cruiser, it would show proof of a struggle. Im not passing judgment, rather wait for the evidence to show itself. Then we can know if the police officer feared for his life, and may have considered his attacker a threat to himself and others.

#29 | Posted by aescal at 2014-08-11 05:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

If that account is true, you are correct tony.

What we know to be true is that the locals are restless and are committing crimes on tape. They should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, and be made examples of.

I hope the suffer the consequences of their violent and self destructive actions, but they won't. Nobody cares because it's expected behavior in the ghetto. Just as its expected that some sports fans will tip cars and start couches on fire.

#30 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2014-08-11 06:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

#30

No 101, it's not expected behavior by anyone who's simply seeking justice in our streets. As far as I remember, this is the only case where there has been a criminal reaction to the death of a citizen at the hands of police, and Lord knows, you've been posting about most of them over the last few months. But I guess you've forgotten the American history of civil disobedience to right grievances that started with the Boston Tea Party. The disenfranchised often show their disgust in illegal manners. Need we look further than Cliven Bundy and the militias skirting federal laws?

This shooting took place in an apartment complex in the full view of scores of people in a community already anxious about the imbalance of common respect shown to its citizens by law enforcement. While I'm all for law and order and the protection of private property, the problems there are far deeper than looters being prosecuted. It's hard for people to respect the law when the law enforcement doesn't respect their rights to life and liberty.

#31 | Posted by tonyroma at 2014-08-11 06:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

10,000 black people kill 10,000 other black people every year for 50 years running.
Those cases don't generate headlines.
No calls for civil rights investigations; no demands for justice.
I will stop right there: it would be racist to see a pattern.

#1 | POSTED BY PAJAMA_BOY AT 2014-08-10 08:39 PM | FLAG:

84 percent of white people killed every year are killed by other whites. When are we going to do something to stop these white people? why can't we talk openly about the danger of white people in our communities?

#32 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2014-08-11 07:19 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

You don't seek justice on the streets by stealing money, beer, etc. you don't seek it by breaking things and ruining other neighbor's properties.
Who seeks justice by destroying and robbing the places they rely upon for their daily existence?

If people destroy and rob as a reaction they are no better than animals. The story was national news prior to the crazy looting. What was the point?

Bundy? How is that clown relevant to anything we are discussing? He was trespassing, not destroying private businesses and personal property.

Prosecute looters. Show them that's not what is expected of a civilized society.

I hope the businesses they're left with gouge them. They can think of it as a civility tax.

#33 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2014-08-11 07:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

The murder of Black unarmed civilians by law enforcement will reach a precipice.

Sooner or later.

#35 | Posted by fresno500 at 2014-08-12 06:40 AM | Reply | Flag:

The last moments of Michael Brown's life were filled with shock, fear and terror, says a witness who stood just feet away as a police officer shot and killed the unarmed teen.

"I saw the barrel of the gun pointed at my friend," said Dorian Johnson, 22. "Then I saw the fire come out of the barrel."

About 20 minutes before the shooting, Johnson said he saw Brown walking down the street and decided to catch up with him. The two walked and talked. That's when Johnson says they saw the police car rolling up to them.

The officer demanded that the two "get the f -- k on the sidewalk," Johnson says. "His exact words were get the f -- k on the sidewalk."

After telling the officer that they were almost at their destination, Johnson's house, the two continued walking. But as they did, Johnson says the officer slammed his brakes and threw his truck in reverse, nearly hitting them.

Now, in line with the officer's driver's side door, they could see the officer's face. They heard him say something to the effect of, "what'd you say?" At the same time, Johnson says the officer attempted to thrust his door open but the door slammed into Brown and bounced closed. Johnson says the officer, with his left hand, grabbed Brown by the neck.

"I could see the muscles in his forearm," Johnson said. "Mike was trying to get away from being choked."

"They're not wrestling so much as his arm went from his throat to now clenched on his shirt," Johnson explained of the scene between Brown and the officer. "It's like tug of war. He's trying to pull him in. He's pulling away, that's when I heard, ‘I'm gonna shoot you.'"

At that moment, Johnson says he fixed his gaze on the officer to see if he was pulling a stun gun or a real gun. That's when he saw the muzzle of the officer's gun.

"I seen the barrel of the gun pointed at my friend," he said. "He had it pointed at him and said ‘I'll shoot,' one more time."

A second later Johnson said he heard the first shot go off.

"I seen the fire come out of the barrell," he said. "I could see so vividly what was going on because I was so close."

Johnson says he was within arm's reach of both Brown and the officer. He looked over at Brown and saw blood pooling through his shirt on the right side of the body. www.msnbc.com


This accounting leaves little room for subjectivity. Michael Brown was murdered for walking in the street for whatever reason the firing officer decided was worth taking his life. This is beyond horrible.

#37 | Posted by tonyroma at 2014-08-12 09:53 AM | Reply | Flag:

This accounting leaves little room for subjectivity. Michael Brown was murdered for walking in the street for whatever reason the firing officer decided was worth taking his life. This is beyond horrible.
#37 | POSTED BY TONYROMA AT 2014-08-12 09:53 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

The witness says the officer wasn't able to open the door and was able to reach out and grab the 'victim'. From inside a car/truck, you could reach out about 18 inchs outside of the vehicle. Sounds like he was assaulting the officer and made a big mistake.

#38 | Posted by RobThomas at 2014-08-12 10:01 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

No, not all white on white crime. Just hoping for yours, you useless waste of space.

#36 | Posted by deadseasquirrel at 2014-08-12 09:26 AM | Reply | Flag:

How do you know I am white deadrodent?

#39 | Posted by e_pluribus_unum at 2014-08-12 10:16 AM | Reply | Flag:

The witness says the officer wasn't able to open the door and was able to reach out and grab the 'victim'. From inside a car/truck, you could reach out about 18 inchs outside of the vehicle. Sounds like he was assaulting the officer and made a big mistake.

#38 | Posted by RobThomas at 2014-08-12 10:01 AM | Reply | Flag:

Or he was standing by the car door talking to the officer. The witness said nothing about the cop being assaulted. If you're using the witness' account then use the witness' account.

That said, even if the story is true, looting local businesses doesn't make any sense. There's no excuse for it. People don't smash and grab because they are upset about an execution. They do it because they are opportunists with an excuse. Stealing isn't civil disobedience.

#40 | Posted by Sully at 2014-08-12 10:17 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

"At the same time, Johnson says the officer attempted to thrust his door open but the door slammed into Brown and bounced closed. Johnson says the officer, with his left hand, grabbed Brown by the neck."

I'm calling BS on the door "bounced closed". When has anyone tried to forcefully open a door hitting someone and it closing? What your saying is the cop was so pissed that he couldn't even get his door open? There is always more to these stories than the media reports. I've read in papers in the area are reporting that a shot was fired in the vehicle. That the young man pushed the officer. This is the type of information that is always left out of the tv media and causes the rioting. You know it's not so clear cut when Sharpton is involved. He's trying to get some money for the mother.

#41 | Posted by Dalton at 2014-08-12 10:25 AM | Reply | Flag:

Just like the guy that died in New York. MSNBC reported it like the cops just stopped the guy b/c he was walking down the street and decided to kill him. Then you find out he was breaking the law and that's why they questioned him. When they questioned him he didn't cooperate which caused the cops to go further. I'm not defending the cops but, people have to realize they aren't here to protect and serve. They are here to arrest people and if you give them anything but yes sir no sir you are going to be taken down.

#42 | Posted by Dalton at 2014-08-12 10:29 AM | Reply | Flag:

people have to realize they aren't here to protect and serve. They are here to arrest people and if you give them anything but yes sir no sir you are going to be taken down.

#42 | Posted by Dalton at 2014-08-12 10:29 AM | Reply | Flag:

That's a problem. Their job is to protect and serve. It isn't to walk around like bigshots and demand that people kiss their butts. There is no reason why you should have to yes sir a cop.

#43 | Posted by Sully at 2014-08-12 10:33 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

That's a problem. Their job is to protect and serve. It isn't to walk around like bigshots and demand that people kiss their butts. There is no reason why you should have to yes sir a cop.

Posted by Sully at 2014-08-12 10:33 AM | Reply

THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#44 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-08-12 10:35 AM | Reply | Flag:

#41-42

I guess you're just willing to justify anything to explain away common sense. Garner's encounter in NYC was filmed by a bystander and you can watch it for yourself. The man asked the police to stop harassing him based on his history of selling bootleg cigarettes, while the people present all told police Garner was NOT selling cigarettes when they confronted him. Garner helped break up another fight and then was subjected to accusations thrown by the cops. He never raised his hands and he passively (only tried to keep from being cuffed without any offensive swings or blows) fought being assaulted until he was choked to death.

In St. Louis, the officer wanted the men to leave the street and evidently heard something he didn't like and backed his vehicle up next to the victim. If the victim was beside the driver's door, of course it would hit him and immediately close back because the officer imparts little force from his sitting position and the man's body would rebound the momentum back. He had to be close enough to grab him around the neck, so it couldn't have been very far, maybe just a few inches. This makes rational sense. I guess the 1st Amendment only counts when millionaires want to spend money on political campaigns because you don't seem to think the victim deserved protection from the officer for whatever he said to the man. None of the likely scenarios amount to assault on the officer and warrant a response of killing an unarmed man for walking in the street with a friend. And if the officer's story turns out to be a lie, I'd expect further charges to be filed against him as well. The police should be held to higher standards than the public, not have their egregious conduct explained away because the victims don't happen to be from the right places and backgrounds.

#45 | Posted by tonyroma at 2014-08-12 10:47 AM | Reply | Flag:

Why were they walking in the street? Why do they always walk in the street? Why did they need to be told to use a sidewalk?
Not a care in the world. Not one F given about anyone but themselves.

But the locals sure do grieve in a funny, violent, and criminal way. Most people would cry, but those fools want beer and Jordan's.

#46 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2014-08-12 11:12 AM | Reply | Flag:

I have been reading the comments over a bunch of sites, all about the same events. I am worried. White people are pissed, more so than I have ever seen them angry about anything. Vietnam, Watergate, 911, all pail compared with the anger I see directed at black people. The comments from blacks is as angry, being the perpetual victim, the "man" is gunning us down, whitey is gona pay, etc. Fact is, black culture is dead, it died with the black family. It has been swallowed up by crime, homicides absentee fathers and abortion . I do not believe it will recover soon. I don't believe things are going to get better before they get a lot worse, there will be blood, and the vast majority will be black blood. The only black people who are safe are the ones who live in white neighborhoods. Hell, three of my kids refuse to live any where close to a black 'hood. It ain't safe, too many thugs, hood rats and gubbers,(addicts). Obama sure has done quite a job bringing us all together. Of course pointing out the obvious is racism.

#47 | Posted by docnjo at 2014-08-12 11:25 AM | Reply | Flag:

"I guess you're just willing to justify anything to explain away common sense. Garner's encounter in NYC was filmed by a bystander and you can watch it for yourself. The man asked the police to stop harassing him based on his history of selling bootleg cigarettes, while the people present all told police Garner was NOT selling cigarettes when they confronted him. Garner helped break up another fight and then was subjected to accusations thrown by the cops. He never raised his hands and he passively (only tried to keep from being cuffed without any offensive swings or blows) fought being assaulted until he was choked to death."

You can't do that dumb@##. You don't get to argue these days whether or not you did something wrong. The police don't care if people on the sidewalk "said he didn't do anything wrong". It doesn't matter. I'm not saying it's always right but, you have to be smart enough to know that you can't negotiate with the po po. These ain't the days of Andy Taylor.

#48 | Posted by Dalton at 2014-08-12 11:38 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Ferguson police haven't yet interviewed Dorian Johnson, the friend who was with Michael Brown on the night he was shot by police, Johnson's lawyer tells MSNBC's Trymaine Lee.

Freeman Bosley, Johnson's attorney, told msnbc that the police have yet to interview Johnson. Bosley said that he offered the police an opportunity to speak with Johnson, but they declined.

"They didn't even want to talk to him," said Bosley, a former mayor of St. Louis. "They don't want the facts. What they want is to justify what happened … what they are trying to do now is justify what happened instead of trying to point out the wrong. Something is wrong here and that's what it is."

Posted: 08/12/2014 9:02 am EDT www.huffingtonpost.com


There is no excuse for this. You cannot find out what happened without speaking to an eyewitness at the scene. The only thing that makes sense is that the police are planning on filing charges against Johnson too for whatever he allegedly did at the time of the shooting. Why wasn't he questioned at the scene as a part of the immediate post mortem?

#49 | Posted by tonyroma at 2014-08-12 11:45 AM | Reply | Flag:

Those poor souls are still looking for street justice. So far, they've looked in a gas station, a jc Penney, a shoe store, and some convenience stores. I hope they look for justice at the gun shop where those white dudes are waiting for them.

They need a herd culling in ferguson.

#50 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2014-08-12 03:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

This accounting leaves little room for subjectivity. Michael Brown was murdered for walking in the street for whatever reason the firing officer decided was worth taking his life. This is beyond horrible.

#37 | POSTED BY TONYROMA

Tony, this is beyond the complete story, is what this is. What exactly happened when Brown was instructed not to walk in the street? Your accounting is full of gaps.

#51 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2014-08-12 04:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

#49 It does seem odd that companion Johnson hasn't been interviewed. He should have made statements at the scene for the record. Even arresting him now doesn't change that.

#52 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2014-08-12 04:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

What exactly happened when Brown was instructed not to walk in the street? Your accounting is full of gaps.

#51 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2014-08-12 04:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

In the story Tony posted? It sounded like the guys responded by saying they were almost at their destination and the cop took that as disobedient or whatever.

Sounds like he should have written some tickets, assuming he was giving a lawful order in the first place, but wanted to play "I'm big and bad and you need to do what I say" instead.

#53 | Posted by Sully at 2014-08-12 05:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

#45 | POSTED BY TONYROMA AT 2014-08-12 10:47 AM | FLAG:

Makes stuff up alot. So the cop backed up his truck to within six inchs of the guy? You are just making excuses for the failed culture that does what ever it takes to not be white and has no respect for anyone, including themselves. What do you expect from a culture that degrades women as bitch's and ho's in their music and video's.

#54 | Posted by RobThomas at 2014-08-12 05:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

Sounds like he should have written some tickets, assuming he was giving a lawful order in the first place, but wanted to play "I'm big and bad and you need to do what I say" instead.

#53 | POSTED BY SULLY AT 2014-08-12 05:25 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

So he tries to get out of the car and for some reason the door will not open. Why was he not able to open the door?

#55 | Posted by RobThomas at 2014-08-12 05:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

Why was he not able to open the door?

Go and stand right next to your car's driver's door and see if your wife can open it with you right there or see if the recoil force you exert to keep your body from flying doesn't force the door back closed again. There is little momentum a body can exert from a sitting position forcing it sideways. You can't use your legs, so it's all upper body going sideways.

You are really not thinking this out. The officer was able to grab the victim's neck after the door shut, so how far was he from the window to begin with? If the door knocked him backward, the cop couldn't have grabbed him by the neck, could he?

Think!

#56 | Posted by tonyroma at 2014-08-12 06:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

You are really not thinking this out. The officer was able to grab the victim's neck after the door shut, so how far was he from the window to begin with? If the door knocked him backward, the cop couldn't have grabbed him by the neck, could he?
Think!

#56 | POSTED BY TONYROMA AT 2014-08-12 06:06 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

You imply they were having a casual conversation. The the guy being that close to the cops car would be very strange. Someone has to be within 18 inchs of your car to reach them from inside of the car. And there is no way someone could grab you by the throat from inside a car unless you are leaning into the car or within 6 inchs of the car. And while sitting in his car and holding the guy by the neck the cop is able to get his gun? Sounds like a made up story. Was the guy being put into the car and then started to fight and assaulted the officer? Bad move.

#57 | Posted by RobThomas at 2014-08-12 06:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

The way to deal with these looters and rioters is bring in some gunships with 900 rounds per minute guns and some bombers with napalm bombs! This would stop this ridiculous crap fast!

#58 | Posted by dougluvsgolf at 2014-08-12 08:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

dougluvsgolf, you have never had to pick up the mess left when one of these weapon systems is engaged. Your cowboy comment should put you to the front of the line on a detail picking up body parts. You want to see what a mini-gun or a 500 pound slick does to human flesh? Have you smelt human flesh burn? I have MF. You don't have the balls to face the results of this kind of crap. If you are such a bad ass, go on down to the 'hood with you shot gun and see how bad you really are, are you going to blow the head off some seven year old? That is the reality of what you want to happen. Do you really want to live with the kind of things in your head that I deal with every ---- day?

#59 | Posted by docnjo at 2014-08-13 06:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

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