Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Sunday, August 10, 2014

"I was a member of a terrorist organization when I was 15 years old. I believe I understand the psychology of young people who join organizations which are called terrorists by their enemies, but which themselves think of themselves as freedom fighters. Hamas thinks it's fighting for the freedom of Palestine. They are deeply convinced of this, and therefore they are fighting. And everybody must admit that they are fighting very well, because what you have here during the last month is a guerrilla organization of, I would say, at least -- at most 10,000 fighters, fighting against one of four biggest and strongest armies in the world. So it's not an even fight, yet they are standing there -- they are still standing there after more than a month. I think even the Israeli Army recognizes and somehow respects the fighting force of this organization." -- Israeli peace activist Uri Avnery, 90, a member of the Zionist paramilitary group Irgun in his youth

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Terrorist = against the American empire

Freedom Fighter - for worse actions on a much larger scale on behalf of the American empire.

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The most vigorous debates about what to do in the region occur within Israeli society. There are a LOT of liberal Israelis who are not fans of their government's actions. Reminds me of the US. There are a lot of US citizens who are vehemently anti US aggression to aid powerful corporate interests at the expense of American citizens' lives.

I wish for constructive and productive discourse on forums like this instead of vitriolic attacks and name calling. :-)

#1 | Posted by drudge_comment at 2014-08-10 09:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

By the way-- check out Uri Avenry's bio on Wikipedia:
en.wikipedia.org

He lived a really interesting life. I respect his opinion and his dedication to peaceful resolutions and protests.

#2 | Posted by drudge_comment at 2014-08-10 09:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

"I wish for constructive and productive discourse on forums like this instead of vitriolic attacks and name calling. :-)"

Puritopian!

#3 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-08-10 09:32 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

hiding behind women and children and all of the other stuff doesn't make you a freedom fighter...it makes you a coward who deserves to die.

if their plight is so dire and they're so important, where is the relief and help from other countries in the region. Why doesn't one of the various countries let them in like your president is doing to poor mexicans and others from central and south america?

#4 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-08-10 10:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

I am offended by the title........

Its quite a statement Drudge makes when Israel is a terrorist onthe front page, which every title is "normalized", and IslamicState which butchers people in cold blood isn't.

Hamas, which dug tunnels to capture civilians... isn't a terrorist organization.

Hamas which oppresses women, gays, and other religions is raised in honor.

Its offensive to common sense, but not surprising.

#5 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-08-10 10:27 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Most likely you didn't even bother to read the article, let alone watch the video.

And as for 'butchering people in cold blood:

www.democracynow.org

As if you were in a jail cell you wouldn't try to tunnel out.

You are obfuscating andrea.

#6 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-08-10 10:58 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

I am offended by the title........

Is it more or less offensive than the continued existence of Palestinians?

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-08-11 03:53 AM | Reply | Flag:

Hamas which oppresses women, gays, and other religions...

Wow. You sound like a...liberal.

#8 | Posted by jpw at 2014-08-11 06:25 AM | Reply | Flag:

I am offended by the title...

He calls himself a terrorist and belonged to Irgun, a group that carried out terrorist attacks. Does the King David Hotel bombing ring a bell?

Hamas, which dug tunnels to capture civilians... isn't a terrorist organization.

That's a straw man argument. No one disputes that Hamas engages in terrorism.

#9 | Posted by rcade at 2014-08-11 10:01 AM | Reply | Flag:

It is old news and common knowledge that terrorists and freedom fighters are one in the same.

Makes me think of the old Carlin quote:

If a firefighter fights against fires...
If a crimefighter fights against crime...
What do you think a freedom fighter fights against?

#10 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-08-11 10:06 AM | Reply | Flag:

Another way of saying "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" is to say "the path to Hell is paved in good intent."

#11 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-08-11 10:10 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Its quite a statement Drudge makes when Israel is a terrorist onthe front page"

That actually never happened.

#12 | Posted by Sully at 2014-08-11 10:22 AM | Reply | Flag:

This headline doesn't say "Israel are terrorists," it speaks of a single Israeli terrorist and put "terrorist" in quotes because it is a quote from the man himself as to what he was.

Here are doves and hawks on both sides and, sadly, there are also terrorists on both sides who care more for bloodshed than any actual goal.

#13 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-08-11 10:31 AM | Reply | Flag:

#13 | Posted by kanrei
"care more for bloodshed than any actual goal."

For many, bloodshed is the actual goal.

#14 | Posted by TheTom at 2014-08-11 10:48 AM | Reply | Flag:

I wouldn't say "for many." For a very select few bloodshed is the goal. For most, they just want to live in peace and are so bombarded by propaganda that they actually think they are the good guys and that is true for both sides.

#15 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-08-11 10:50 AM | Reply | Flag:

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