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Mewan Dolamari of the Kurdistan news site BasNews reports: A Kurdish Peshmerga commander has stated that after the U.S. military airstrikes against the Islamic State (IS) insurgents on Friday evening in areas around Khazir, the militants' movements have been halted and they do not have the ability to attack. On Saturday, the Peshmerga commander said, "The movements and attacks of IS insurgents have been totally stopped after the U.S. military planes attacked their areas."

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The commander who is defending in the Khazir area stated, "Now, the movements of IS militants cannot be seen even via binoculars. ... The impact of U.S. air strikes on Friday against the IS militants is still seen as there are no movements or attacks now."

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Stick to the script your handlers provided: Obama Signals Lengthy U.S. Role in Iraq

You're supposed to be the apologist for an occupation

#1 | Posted by DeadSpin at 2014-08-10 12:43 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 4

Next phase boots on the ground. You just watch.

#2 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-08-10 12:46 AM | Reply | Flag:

Many Muslim scholars been denouncing ISIS, but they are not heard or even mentioned in mainscream media in the United States so I wish to link to some of their opinions here:

www.islam21c.com

#3 | Posted by ExpectingReign at 2014-08-10 12:47 AM | Reply | Flag:

#1

Apologist for genocide.

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2014-08-10 12:54 AM | Reply | Flag:

If only some people had the discernment of a George McGovern... naw, not these days. These days it's knee-jerk first and ask questions... never.

www.theatlantic.com

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2014-08-10 12:59 AM | Reply | Flag:

www.democracynow.org

SEN. GEORGE McGOVERN: Well, some of the Democrats are supporting him.

AMY GOODMAN: Or, they are distancing themselves from him.

SEN. GEORGE McGOVERN: Well, that may be. I think that's wrong. I think we ought to get out of Iraq. I was saying we shouldn't go in there months before we went in there. A lot of thoughtful people were saying that, including General Wesley Clark. Other people were warning us that this was a trap, it would be easy to get into but very hard to get out, and I think that Congressman Murtha has come to that conclusion and had the courage to say, 'I was wrong, I don't want to see any more Americans dying out there. Let's get out and do it in a systematic way.'

#6 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-08-10 01:06 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

www.whitehouse.gov

It is in our national security interests not to see an all-out civil war inside of Iraq, not just for humanitarian reasons, but because that ultimately can be destabilizing throughout the region. And in addition to having strong allies there that we are committed to protecting, obviously issues like energy and global energy markets continues to be important.

#7 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-08-10 01:13 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Which politician uttered the following words:

"Do we sit on the sidelines and watch an entire people be slaughtered or do we marshal military forces and move in quietly to put an end to it?" John McCain? Joe Lieberman? Scoop Jackson?

Wrong. The speaker was George McGovern, in August 1978."

from the above link

As McGovern could tell the difference between the Viet Cong and the Khmer Rouge, the article suggests he could also tell the difference between Saddam and ISIS... which is more than some of today's knee-jerk lefties seem to be able to do.

#8 | Posted by Corky at 2014-08-10 11:44 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Hillary Clinton Dismisses Obama's 'Don't Do Stupid ---' Foreign Policy"

"Graham: If Obama Doesn't Go On Offense, Terrorists Are 'Coming Here'"

Hillary and Lindsey...

Two Neocons in a tree...

Palling...

#9 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-08-10 12:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

I can already hear the drumbeat....

Graham: Islamic State will attack on US soil, Obama must stop terror group's rise

Sen. Lindsey Graham sounded the alarm Sunday about the growing threat of the Islamic State, the militant group formerly known as ISIS, launching an attack on American soil unless President Obama takes more decisive action to stop the terror group's surge across Iraq and Syria.

Graham, R-S.C., a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, told "Fox News Sunday" that the well-funded, swiftly-strengthening organization, which has taken control of large parts of both Middle East countries, is a "direct threat to our homeland."

"Mr. President, be honest with the threat we face," Graham said. "They are coming."


ISIS is the new boogeyman to fear.

#10 | Posted by DeadSpin at 2014-08-10 12:32 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 3

"ISIS is the new boogeyman to fear."

It's Obama's fault according to Hillary.

#11 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-08-10 12:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

Uncle Sam needs your help to defeat ISIS.

They're behind every bush now and threaten your childrens-es. They hate our freedumbs and credit card driven lives. Put out your flags and yellow ribbons now. Slap your "iSupport the WaR oN TeRRoR" magnets on the back of anything with wheels.

Of course, you're a traitor if you disagree (ie. shirtless Vlad worshipper)

#12 | Posted by DeadSpin at 2014-08-10 12:40 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

ISIS is the jihadist group who has 40,000 people trapped on a barren mountaintop without food and water and that has vowed to slaughter them... GOP war hawks and liberal hand-wringers notwithstanding.

#13 | Posted by Corky at 2014-08-10 12:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

"ISIS is the jihadist group "

Hillary Clinton: Obama's 'Failure' to Help Syrian Rebels Led to the Rise of ISIS.
www.theatlantic.com

So, do you agree with Hillary and Lindsey Graham, or Obama?

#14 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-08-10 12:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

#10 | Posted by DeadSpin

The GOP have always needed a boogieman.

That's why I suspect the Bush team didn't kill Bin Laden in Tora Bora when the CIA special ops team knew exactly where Bin Laden was ... within 10 meters.

#15 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2014-08-10 01:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

Now that even people like Laura Ingraham are blaming Bush for this mess and cutting Obama a break on how he is handling this.
www.youtube.com

#16 | Posted by THomewood at 2014-08-10 02:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

So many innocent people have been killed, and to think all it took was the U.S. to get in there and do what it should have done at least a month ago.. I hear that this ISIS is Al Qada 're-formed.'

#17 | Posted by trustinGod at 2014-08-10 02:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

I hear that this ISIS is Al Qada 're-formed.'
#17 | POSTED BY TRUSTINGOD

That's not saying much. Al Qaeda is not a single group now, but instead an ideology and a label.

#18 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-08-10 02:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM sounds the alarm about the growing threat of the Islamic State, the militant group formerly known as ISIS, launching an attack on American soil unless President Obama takes more decisive action to stop terror group's surge across Iraq and Syria. -- Fox News

GREAT! More war mongering, demands to go back to Iraq. No wonder there's such a low interest in voting this term. With idiots like Graham at the helm, our country is going nowhere very very fast.

Ironic though, isn't it? That Graham is using the same exact fear mongering that Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld used to drum up support for the Iraq War.

Sorry, Lindsey, but there's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me - can't get fooled again.

#19 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-08-10 03:07 PM | Reply | Flag:

Thank G-d I stopped drinking the DNC Swill.

#20 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-08-10 03:53 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

#14

"-According to Obama, just 7 months ago ISIS was JayVee..... (Mackris)

IS had been under surveillance since your buddy John McCain was playing footsies with them in Syria, ma'm.

Had we done what the Sec of State at the time wanted and armed the moderate rebels, we would have cut out both IS and AQ , who filled the void instead.

We've been watching this since the beginning, and could have curbed IS's enthusiasm early on had many people been as wise as George McGovern and not dropped their humanitarian responsibilities to their fellow human beings in the world because they are weary of them and rightly disturbed by the mistakes we have made.

There are lots of things we cannot do or should not do, and are not at least partly responsible for, but this isn't one of them.

POSTED BY CORKY AT 2014-08-08 07:06 PM |"

But, of course, that poster at #14 doesn't want to talk about rescuing 40,000 men, women and children... they want to play a blame game instead.

#21 | Posted by Corky at 2014-08-10 04:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

Kurdish Forces Confront ISIS Fighters as U.S. Airstrikes Continue

GWER, Iraq -- Kurdish forces on Sunday carried out counterattacks against Sunni militants in two crucial border towns, as American aircraft struck the militants in northern Iraq, witnesses and military officials said.

The American airstrikes, carried out by drones and fighter jets, were intended to protect Kurdish forces near Erbil, the capital of the Iraqi Kurdistan region, according to a statement by the United States Central Command.

The American airstrikes seemed to have quickly restored confidence here, with international flights into Erbil resuming after a pause, and business returning to normal. Cheering truckloads of pesh merga fighters cruised the highway between here and Erbil.

www.nytimes.com

#22 | Posted by Corky at 2014-08-10 04:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

But, of course, that poster at #14 doesn't want to talk about rescuing 40,000 men, women and children... they want to play a blame game instead.

#21 | Posted by Corky at 2014-08-10 04:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

Trying to sell Gulf War 3 like Dubya supporters did in the run up to Gulf War 2.

#23 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-08-10 04:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

Hillary and Lindsey vs. Barack. Who will win?

#24 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-08-10 04:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

Hillary and Lindsey vs. Barack. Who will win?

#24 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-08-10 04:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

If this doesn't prove Hillary is a Right winger nothing else will.

#25 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-08-10 04:41 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

#25: I'm guessing left wingers can't handle the truth that they can be as stupid as right wingers? Hillary a right winger, that's hilarious.

#26 | Posted by Daniel at 2014-08-10 04:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

www.nytimes.com

Even as they castigate Mr. Obama, the neocons may be preparing a more brazen feat: aligning themselves with Hillary Rodham Clinton and her nascent presidential campaign, in a bid to return to the driver's seat of American foreign policy.

#27 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-08-10 05:05 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 3

But, of course, that poster at #14 doesn't want to talk about rescuing 40,000 men, women and children... they want to play a blame game instead.

#21 | POSTED BY CORKY

Where were you and your bombs when 800K were slaughtered in Rwanda? The US didn't lift a finger and not a peep from the likes of Puritopians Inc.

I'm all for dropping aid...all day long. Food, tents, blankets, meds...but guess what? There's a dozen humanitarian crisis in the world right now but the US is only interested in one of them?? Really? I wonder why that is?

My advice for the oppressed? Run. Run like hell and we'll drop you support.

#28 | Posted by DeadSpin at 2014-08-10 08:01 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

- Hillary and Lindsey

lmao... the guilt by association as ad hmonem is a desperately transparent logical fallacy.

Funny, too.

- Rwanda

We do what we can where we can. Here, we have already helped the victims without breaking a sweat.

- the oppressed

Well, I guess if one were disingenuous enough they could refer to the threatened genocide as, "oppression".

-
It's a good thing we had liberals like George McGovern back in the day.

People not too frightened by their shadow to discern the difference between stopping a genocide in Cambodia, or Ebil, and military overreach in Vietnam, or Iraq, no matter how badly the former was handled.

#29 | Posted by Corky at 2014-08-10 09:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

- Run like hell

That's a pretty neat trick, of course, for 40,000 people trapped atop a mountain.

You'll have to show us how that werks.

#30 | Posted by Corky at 2014-08-10 09:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

"lmao... the guilt by association as ad hmonem is a desperately transparent logical fallacy. "

Hillary and Robert Kagan...

Neocons in a tree...

Pallin...

#31 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-08-10 09:07 PM | Reply | Flag:

"t's a good thing we had liberals like George McGovern back in the day."

lol. You would call McGovern a "puritopian" and "Neville Chamberlain" today.

#32 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-08-10 09:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

Gotta sell this war by hook or by crook. It's the "American" Way.

#33 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-08-10 09:18 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Now that even people like Laura Ingraham are blaming Bush for this mess and cutting Obama a break on how he is handling this.
www.youtube.com

#16 | Posted by THomewood at 2014-08-10 02:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

WOWWWWWWWWW

#34 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-08-10 09:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

"While the recent ISIS assault has put Christians in northern Iraq in a critical state, the community has been threatened since the 2003 US-led invasion, with increasing numbers fleeing the sectarian violence and lawlessness that has plagued the country over the past decade.

In 2003, Christians numbered around 1.5 million -- just over 5% of the Iraqi population, according to community leaders. By 2013, that figure had dropped to less than 450,000.

Before 2003, Mosul was home to around 60,000 Christians, according to Patriarch Louis Sako, head of the Chaldean Catholic Church.

By June 2014 – shortly before the city fell to ISIS militants – that figure had dropped to 35,000.

Following the June 17 fall of Iraq's second-most populated city, Patriarch Sako declared, "Mosul is now empty of Christians" – a first in Iraqi history."

#35 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2014-08-10 09:41 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Killing people will never be the answer. We create 100 enemies for every person killed.

The answer is helping people in distress. Help them escape, feed them, shelter and clothe them. If the world map changes, so be it. This idea of forcing democracy down others throats is insane. There's a reason these people operate in normalcy under a dictator or military ruler. They're comfortable being under the rule of the top warlord. And if they're not, they can flee.

America needs to come home and reestablish itself as a world leader, nor a world bleeder. We're looked upon as invaders, killers, and greedy opportunists. We're not respected, we're feared for for weapons of mass destruction.

This is not noble, respectful, or civilized. This is the brutal hand of a vicious landlord. We treat nations like we own them. We force them by threat of withheld financial support and when that fails, at the barrel of a gun.

We have become global thugs and war criminals.

#36 | Posted by DeadSpin at 2014-08-11 12:20 AM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

-There's a reason these people operate in normalcy under a dictator or military ruler. They're comfortable being under the rule of the top warlord. And if they're not, they can flee.

I mean, really, between that vapidity and saying they can run away from the mountaintop top... people are people and these people no more enjoy dictatorship than any other people.

These people just happen to be dying, and we can just happen to help... on the food and water and on the physical protection, which is working right now, saving lives.

#37 | Posted by Corky at 2014-08-11 12:51 AM | Reply | Flag:

America needs to come home and reestablish itself as a world leader, nor a world bleeder. We're looked upon as invaders, killers, and greedy opportunists. We're not respected, we're feared for for weapons of mass destruction.

This is not noble, respectful, or civilized. This is the brutal hand of a vicious landlord. We treat nations like we own them. We force them by threat of withheld financial support and when that fails, at the barrel of a gun.

We have become global thugs and war criminals.

Posted by DeadSpin at 2014-08-11 12:20 AM | Reply

That ain't no joke.

#38 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-08-11 01:19 AM | Reply | Flag:

These people just happen to be dying, and we can just happen to help... on the food and water and on the physical protection, which is working right now, saving lives.
#37 | POSTED BY CORKY AT 2014-08-11 12:51 AM | FLAG:

It is 335 miles to go get them from the Green Zone, through Mosul, 3 other major cities, and many minor ones. Once you get to the mountains it is a couple hundred miles East to Kurd territory, through more ISIS cities. It would take a re-conquest of the country to rescue them. Armor, infantry, artillery, air support, the whole 9 yards.. and while you're taking us on this 550+ mile drive, please remember the physical limit of a blitzkrieg is 400 miles before it bogs down, so you'll need significant follow-on forces to enact the occupation necessary to secure the supply lines or risk losing the leading elements.

#39 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2014-08-11 12:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

- It would take a re-conquest of the country to rescue them.

see #22

and this

Exodus from the mountain: Yazidis flood into Iraq following U.S. airstrikes

FISHKHABOUR, Iraq -- Burned by the sun, blistered with thirst and weak from exhaustion, thousands of Yazidis on Sunday fled the mountain on which they had been trapped for a week, streaming into Iraq's northern Kurdistan region after a harrowing escape from extremist fighters that some said was aided by U.S. airstrikes.

www.washingtonpost.com

Iraq Crisis: Kurdish Forces Reverse Militant Gains as U.S. Continues Airstrikes

online.wsj.com

We are already having an effect with a few air strikes, and the Kurds are being proactive again.

www.poetryfoundation.org

#40 | Posted by Corky at 2014-08-11 12:15 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Iraq: US plans rescue mission for besieged Yazidi refugees

More than 20,000 of the 40,000 trapped by jihadists on a mountaintop have escaped, but US considering full-scale rescue

The United States is exploring options to evacuate thousands of Iraqi civilians trapped on a mountain in northern Iraq by Islamic militants after four nights of humanitarian relief airdrops, officials in Washington said.

At least half of the 40,000 people besieged by jihadists on Mount Sinjar had escaped by Sunday night, aided by Kurdish rebels who crossed from Syria to rescue them.

But proposals for a mission to save the remaining thousands of Yazidi people underscore the limits of the airdrops, ordered last week by Barack Obama.

"We're reviewing options for removing the remaining civilians off the mountain," deputy US national security adviser Ben Rhodes told Reuters late on Sunday.

"Kurdish forces are helping, and we're talking to the (United Nations) and other international partners about how to bring them to a safe space."

The refugees, all members of the Yazidi sect, began streaming back into Iraqi Kurdistan on Sunday after a perilous journey past Islamic State militants who had vowed to kill them and had surrounded their hideout on Mount Sinjar after storming the area.

The day-long trek took them first over a mountain range into Syria, then through the Peshkhabour crossing three hours north-west of Irbil, where Kurdish officials were rushing to provide food and shelter.

Fleeing Yazidis said their escape had been aided by the YPG, a Syrian Kurdish rebel faction, and by US air strikes on Islamic State (Isis) positions which had forced the jihadists to withdraw for around six hours on Saturday.

www.theguardian.com

"day-long trek", so much for #39

#41 | Posted by Corky at 2014-08-11 12:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

If this doesn't prove Hillary is a Right winger nothing else will.

#25 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-08-10

You really can't be serious here....what's the punch line?

so report this AM says the kurds have beaten back some of these maybe even retaking two cities.....

so has obama and you here...his supporters..taken full credit yet ?

#42 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-08-11 01:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

You really can't be serious here....what's the punch line?

so report this AM says the kurds have beaten back some of these maybe even retaking two cities.....

so has obama and you here...his supporters..taken full credit yet ?

Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-08-11 01:09 PM | Reply

No and I'm not kidding and congrats to believing the propeganda AFK.

#43 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-08-11 01:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

Syrian border? lol. What propaganda agency told you that still existed?

The Yadzi that crossed what used to be the Syrian border are still deep in the heart of the Islamic State. Those refugees have a long walk through hostile territory to make it to the Kurd enclaves to the North, even with a faction of Kurds to guide them. Good luck to them, they could easily end up worse off than those on the mountain.

An "air head" could work. It would have to dwarf the failed Iranian hostage rescue attempt. It would be incredibly high risk. Drop airborne forces in, forward deploy air cavalry, prepare temporary landing strips, shuttle out the remaining 20,000 in a couple days of C-130 flights, and find a country willing to assimilate them because they don't have one left.

#44 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2014-08-11 01:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

...and then we form a "Northern Alliance" and ride in on donkeys to take out The Taliban. I meant Al Queada. Sorry...ISIS.

2-3 months easy-peazy. 6 months tops. 10 years on the outside.

#45 | Posted by DeadSpin at 2014-08-11 03:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

No and I'm not kidding and congrats to believing the propeganda AFK.

#43 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-08

please...running as fast as she can from a radical left wing zealot does NOT make her a right winger....you are SO FUNNY sometimes....hardy har har

LOL

AND LISTEN to the obama interview of obama....where he says that the ISIS was USEFUL in that it might help remove Maliki AND he talks about one of YOU PEOPLE"S favorite rant...."nation building"...

so enjoy listening to Barak "W" Obama....

lol

#46 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-08-11 06:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

sorry...interview with LEFTIST LIBERAL Tom Friedman...

#47 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-08-11 06:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

and on a related note.....her latest book..NOW $14.95 at kroger....but don't rush....they've got TONS of copies left..

#48 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-08-11 06:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

I know my two tomato cans and string can reach you down in Texas but I don't support Obama with regards to Gulf War 3.

#49 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-08-11 06:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

aha ha...I know bro..and I respect that....I think we should be out of afghanistan and I don't have an answer about the others except that the savages in Iraq are going to have to be stopped by someone some where because I choose to believe the guy who talks about "see you in New YOrk"

#50 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-08-11 06:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

President Obama

I approve.

No boots on the ground. But still providing support that actually means something. Messy situation, so no matter what happens it will be horrible.

Our choices are not good vs bad.
Our choices are bad vs worse.
Pretending we have a 'good' option IS ACTIVELY EVIL.

Iraq needs to stand, at least partly, on its own. No U.S. boots on the ground. They can fund their own stuff too.

That we kill a load of jihadist scum is also a nice plus.

#51 | Posted by USAF242 at 2014-08-11 09:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

The problem is the people in Iraq, an artificial country made up of groups that have murderous design on each other. The Shea killed bunches of Sunni when they came to power, the Sunni never stopped killing Shea. The Kurdish people suffered most. Part of me says that we should leave them to their own devices, like we did in south east Asia after the Vietnam war. That course of action didn't bother the Left one bit back in 1975 wile the communists killed about 6 million people in three countries. For those who want to blame the US for this course of events, wake up, they have only accelerated what they have been doing all along.

#52 | Posted by docnjo at 2014-08-12 07:29 AM | Reply | Flag:

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