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Tuesday, August 05, 2014

A legislative leader of Israel's Knesset has called for concentration camps in Gaza and "the conquest of the entire Gaza Strip, and annihilation of all fighting forces and their supporters." Moshe Feiglin, Knesset deputy speaker and a member of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's ruling Likud Party, laid out a detailed plan on his Facebook page this week for the destruction of Gaza -- which includes shipping its residents across the world -- in a letter he addressed to Netanyahu.

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This goes on without saying where we average Americans are forced to subsidize, support and pay the price of Israel, and feel the wrath of those they trash under our name.

It would be a different America now if everyone watched this ....Israeli nightmare in the Middle East and George Carlin "the American Dream".

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#1 | Posted by Robson at 2014-08-05 06:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

It's a nice thought, but Israel doesn't have the stones to commit that many IDF soldiers to what will surely be a bloody operation.

Better than 1000 Palestinians die -- civilian or combatant, at the hands of IDF or Hamas or disease -- than one Israeli soldier be killed.

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-08-05 06:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

Wow. What a world we live in.

#3 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2014-08-05 06:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

My neighbor was born in Jaffra. It was cleansed by jewish terrorist. I like how they are called militias here. They were terrorist who asked for bribes for safety or they blew-up your business or home.

Sound familiar?

This is the outcome of inbreeding for too long.

#4 | Posted by Prolix247 at 2014-08-05 07:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

It's time to cut israel loose, let it fend for itself.

If they want to be our ally, fine, let them have the same human right restriction our other trading partners must live by.

#5 | Posted by kudzu at 2014-08-05 07:28 PM | Reply | Flag:

If they want to be our ally, fine, let them have the same human right restriction our other trading partners must live by.

#5 | POSTED BY KUDZU

Uh huh. Like Saudi Arabia? Where a woman can be sentenced to 100 lashes just for driving a car.

#6 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-08-05 07:30 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

#6 - that is bad no doubt, but we don't give money to SA for nothing. Besides, there is a difference in sharia law and bombing your own citizens.

#7 | Posted by kudzu at 2014-08-05 07:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

Hopefully this nut Feiglin thinking isn't indicative of the majority of the Likud party. If Jews born in Brooklyn have a right to a state in Palestine, then Palestinians born in Jerusalem have a right to a state in Palestine. Anyone who doesn't agree with that principle, I think, is suspect.

#8 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2014-08-05 07:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

Israelis speaking of concentration camps is disturbing.

#10 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2014-08-05 07:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

en.wikipedia.org

#11 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-08-05 07:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

Uh huh. Like Saudi Arabia? Where a woman can be sentenced to 100 lashes just for driving a car.

#6 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-08-05 07:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

Both Israel and Saudi Arabia own us.

#12 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-08-05 07:58 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Just like the US - isreal has a tea party - a minority of right wing theocrat extremists that get to dictate much of their policy.

#13 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-08-05 07:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

450++ kids in Gaza under 14 years old have been murdered and another 3500 injured, and 100,000++ children are now homeless. I am not taking sides, since both sides are guilty of war crimes. And in the USA the GOP and the Democrats (including HUSEIN Obama) have blood on their hands

#14 | Posted by SammyAZ_RI at 2014-08-05 08:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

Both Israel and Saudi Arabia own us.

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Wrong.

Until The Nazis started taking over oil territories the USA had no problem with the Nazis what so ever. It was funding them in the stock market, selling them weapons(see Prescott), and didn't give one rats #$%hole about dead gypsies/Jews/Poles.

Israel and the House of Saud are friendly military bases in the oil region; and will be abandoned when said oil runs out.

The parallels between the USA's support of the 3rd Reich then, and it's support of Israel now are obvious to those who don't choose willful blindness.

#16 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-08-05 10:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

Shawn sorry but it's true. Saudi Arabia is the reason why we went to war in Desert Storm. They told our leaders to and Bush 41 said Yes Your highness and the rest is history.

#17 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-08-05 10:42 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Uh huh. Like Saudi Arabia?

JeffJ, do you really believe saudistan is America's ally? Even Dubya lost his love for them after his favorite saudi, Bandar, turned out to be funding 9-11. They are a source of cheap oil and a good customer for weapons systems. They do still fund the same sunni jihadists and the taliban they always have, but since no American troops are in the line of fire and they are opposing Iran in Iraq, America tolerates them, at best.

#18 | Posted by northguy3 at 2014-08-05 10:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

No larry it is not true.

As soon as the oil runs out the American empire will not care anymore.

We could wipe them out. They cannot do the same to us.

Follow the money, and you will find the 'Federal Reserve', the US department of war pigs, and the NSA; the usual suspects.

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#19 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-08-05 10:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

No larry it is not true.

As soon as the oil runs out the American empire will not care anymore.

We could wipe them out. They cannot do the same to us.

Follow the money, and you will find the 'Federal Reserve', the US department of war pigs, and the NSA; the usual suspects.

The rest of marketing.

Posted by Shawn at 2014-08-05 10:53 PM | Reply

You forget one key point. Al Qaida or whatever flavour you want to call them is a direct threat to Saudi Arabia. Tis not just oil alone.

#20 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-08-05 11:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

Oliver,

My point was one of consistency.

Kudzu wanted to apply a 'humanitarian standard' when it comes to our dealings with Israel. OK. I was pointing out that we also turn a blind eye toward the Saudis and I think the case could clearly be made that overall human rights violations between the 2 countries is worse on the Arabian peninsula.

#21 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-08-05 11:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

The American empire made Al Qaeda. And if it wanted to it could wipe it out in a month. Just as it could have killed Bin Laden at any time before of after sept 11.

Use your brain. Think

#22 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-08-06 01:18 AM | Reply | Flag:

How could any Israeli Jew utter these words or consider the prospect?

#23 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2014-08-06 01:49 AM | Reply | Flag:

Re: human rights violations in Saudi

Here is the thing. Saudi citizens have money. They can leave but choose to stay. Why ? Cause the state pays them.

It's not the same as Burma or North Korea.

#24 | Posted by klifferd at 2014-08-06 08:38 AM | Reply | Flag:

The outrage in Israel must be overwhelming! I'm sure his own party is asking him to resign his position. Feiglin is a lone extremist, I tells ya, any day Israel's moral majority will react by showing they won't tolerate this type of extremism coming from their elected representatives. Its going to happen, just wait....

#25 | Posted by Sully at 2014-08-06 09:51 AM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

zionism lowers the moral standards of the jewish and christian people who follow and support it.

jesus, for instance, was a jew, but he wasn't a zionist. if he was he couldn't have been jesus. he'd be nothing more than a philosophical psycho-killer with a cute nickname.

#26 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-08-06 10:18 AM | Reply | Flag:

Unfortunately, he is not a lone extremist. The zionist movement is full of people that believe this way.

As far as the comparison to Saudi, north korea, the american tp'ers, etc....i have no problem with that - they are all fundamentalist and need to be shut down by people of good conscious.

#27 | Posted by kudzu at 2014-08-06 12:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

[BAMF] Here it is!

Both Israel and Saudi Arabia own us.
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Wrong.
Until The Nazis started taking over oil territories the USA had no problem with the Nazis what so ever. It was funding them in the stock market, selling them weapons(see Prescott), and didn't give one rats #$%hole about dead gypsies/Jews/Poles.
Israel and the House of Saud are friendly military bases in the oil region; and will be abandoned when said oil runs out.
The parallels between the USA's support of the 3rd Reich then, and it's support of Israel now are obvious to those who don't choose willful blindness.
#16 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-08-05 10:32 PM

Precisely. Economic advantaging is the reason NAZI were able to flourish, not schlager singing to redneck dissidents. They were an invention shrouded in socialist promises, more specifically invested-into by economic advantagists who would profit from weapons manufacturing, ore and oil trade, and most naturally insist World Bank should step in when this becomes too obvious.. Very similar to the invention of Israel.

What Really Caused World War 2?
The True Cause of the Second World War

The date of September 1, 1939, when Germany invaded Poland, is remembered as the date the war started. But little is remembered about the date Russia also moved into Poland, on September 16,1939. The nation of Poland was now divided between these two war-time allies.

It is interesting to notice what the responses of the major allied nations were to these two dates. When Germany entered the western portion of Poland, Britain and France declared war on Germany. But when Russia moved into eastern Poland, there was no war declaration by either nation.

The Soviets caused one of the tragic events of history after they occupied their portion of Poland. They captured approximately 10,000 Polish officers and brutally murdered them, most of them meeting their death in Katyn Forest near the Russian town of Smolensk. The traditional story about their deaths was that the officers had been killed by the German army, but now the evidence is clear that the Russians committed this crime. The other victims were taken aboard a barge which was towed out to sea and then sunk.

Even with all of these efforts of the American businessman to construct the German war machine with the full knowledge and approval of President Roosevelt, he kept repeating that the nation would continue its "neutral" position: it would remain out of the war. On September 1, 1939, when the war started, he was asked by a reporter whether America would stay out of the war and Roosevelt replied: "... I believe we can, and every effort will be made by the Administration to do so."

Roosevelt responded by appointing George Marshall, a CFR member, as Chief of Staff of the Army over General Douglas MacArthur, not a member of the CFR, and other senior officers.

#28 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2014-08-06 01:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

Others did not believe Roosevelt's claim that America would remain neutral. On September 12, 1939, Hans Thomson, the German charge d'affaires in Washington, cabled the German government: "... if defeat should threaten the Allies (Great Britain and France), Roosevelt is determined to go to war against Germany, even in the face of the resistance of his own country."

But Germany's war efforts were still dependent on oil resources, and it came from a variety of sources, some external to the German border. Before Rumania was invaded by the Germans, it was selling oil to Germany. Life magazine of February 19, 1940, has a picture of Rumanian oil being loaded into oil tank cars. The picture has a caption under it which reads, in part: "Oil for Germany moves in these tank cars of American Essolube and British Shell out of Creditui Minier yards near Ploesti (Rumania.) Notice that cars are marked for German-American Oil Co. and German Railways, consigned to Hamburg and Wuppertal in Germany. They were sent from Germany to speed up Rumanian oil shipments." This picture was taken after Germany had invaded Austria and Poland, yet American and British oil companies are transporting oil for the German government, (the tank cars in the picture are dearly marked "Essolube," and "Shell").

And other sources supplied oil as well. When the German air force ran short of fuel, this was generously supplied from the great refinery belonging to the Standard Oil Company situated on the island of Aruba via Spanish tankers. This occurred during the war itself, yet these tankers were not sunk by American submarines.

Even with the purchases of oil from non-German sources, the major supplier of oil was still the cartel. The I.G. Farben-Standard Oil cooperation for production of synthetic oil from coal gave the I.G. Farben cartel a monopoly of German gasoline production during World War II. Just under one half of German high octane gasoline in 1945 was produced directly by I.G. Farben, and most of the balance by its affiliated companies.

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#29 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2014-08-06 01:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

not all politians smart but they are politicians

#30 | Posted by lastomykind at 2014-08-06 02:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

not all politians smart but they are politicians
#30 | Posted by "lastomykind" at 2014-08-06 02:18 PM

I agree. "An old fashioned NAZI ethnic cleansing by any other name"..

#31 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2014-08-06 02:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

oh no.,...the horror of wanting to get rid of people firing missiles and sworn to kill them all...

please....

JUST ANNOUNCED FROM HAMAS.....they plan on firing missiles as soon as this cease fire is over....sometime friday...HOPEFULLY that's just a bargaining tool, but if it does happen, you read it HERE first.

#32 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-08-06 07:03 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

so one israeli official cries for extremism, while the ENTIRE hamas charter calls for extremism... on top of the 3 million jihadis around the world chanting death to jews/israel. Totally equivalent...

#33 | Posted by monkeylogic42 at 2014-08-07 12:24 AM | Reply | Flag:

Unfortunately, he is not a lone extremist. The zionist movement is full of people that believe this way.Like the ultra right wingers who plotted and assassinated Yithak Rabin, who was going to win the PM slot. He died for campaigning on a platform peace with and homeland for Palestinians.

#34 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2014-08-07 01:09 AM | Reply | Flag:

"so one israeli official cries for extremism"

No, that is far from the truth. Israel has more than one hawkish party and the party this guy is from, also Netenyahu's party, rejects the idea of Palestinian statehood - aka rejects the right of a Palestinian state to exist.

#35 | Posted by Sully at 2014-08-07 09:11 AM | Reply | Flag:

while the ENTIRE hamas charter calls for extremism.
#33 | Posted by monkeylogic42

As does the Likud charter.

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-08-07 03:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

As does the Likud charter."

that is correct. hamas has always been an ugly mirror image of the zionism that created the environment for its birth and the continued oppression that has allowed it to flourish.

but it is only a recent manifestation. to truly understand the entire situation one must go back to the foundings of zionism and gain understanding how the introduction of zionism into the area known as palestine generations ago begat a cycle of theft, violence and oppression that the region finds itself still mired in today.

#37 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-08-07 04:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

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