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Wednesday, August 06, 2014

Glenn Greenwald, The Intercept: The U.S. government has long lavished overwhelming aid on Israel, providing cash, weapons and surveillance technology that play a crucial role in Israel's attacks on its neighbors. But top secret documents provided by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden shed substantial new light on how the U.S. and its partners directly enable Israel's military assaults -- such as the one on Gaza. The new documents underscore the indispensable, direct involvement of the U.S. government and its key allies in Israeli aggression against its neighbors. That covert support is squarely at odds with the posture of helpless detachment typically adopted by Obama officials and their supporters.

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The new Snowden documents illustrate a crucial fact: Israeli aggression would be impossible without the constant, lavish support and protection of the U.S. government, which is anything but a neutral, peace-brokering party in these attacks. And the relationship between the NSA and its partners on the one hand, and the Israeli spying agency on the other, is at the center of that enabling.

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Fascist terrorism.

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"They hate us for our freedumbs".

#1 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2014-08-05 02:55 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

i'm swaying back and forth in my mind singing Lee Greenwood's anthem.

#2 | Posted by DeadSpin at 2014-08-05 03:35 PM | Reply | Flag:

Where's the candidate who promises to downsize the U.S. empire and the military-industrial-
surveillance complex?

#3 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-08-05 03:46 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Where's the candidate who promises to downsize the U.S. empire and the military-industrial-
surveillance complex?

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There are a lot of those. They aren't allowed on the fascist media and can't get on the ballot. see occupy wall st.

#4 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-08-05 07:39 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 3

Where's the candidate who promises to downsize the U.S. empire and the military-industrial-
surveillance complex?

JFK was the last one.

#5 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2014-08-06 11:39 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

JFK was the last one.

Hardly. Bay of Pigs; Vietnam; etc. No President has done anything to downsize the military industrial complex. Ike warned us about them, but not until he was leaving office.

#6 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-08-06 11:43 AM | Reply | Flag:

JFK was the last one.

#5 | Posted by lee_the_agent

And they made quite the example of him.

#7 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-08-06 11:45 AM | Reply | Flag:

Ugh, the JFK myths that will never &^%$ing die.

The only difference between JFK and Nixon was that JFK looked better on television. Their policies were the same.

#8 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-08-06 12:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

-Their policies were the same.

Ever expanding ignorance.

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2014-08-06 12:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

The only difference between JFK and Nixon was that JFK looked better on television. Their policies were the same.

#8 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-08-06 12:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

Not true. JFK also banged movie stars.

#10 | Posted by Sully at 2014-08-06 12:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

kudos to snowden and co. but we kinda nknew this already.

The Israel lobby and US Foreign Policy


btw, the star of david, symbol of zionism, has 6 points, 6 outer triangles, and 6 inner triangles...

...for those of you casual 'numerologists' out there.

#11 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-08-06 12:35 PM | Reply | Flag:

He Star of David is a Jewish symbol, not a Zionist one. And your jews are the devil concept is Christian identity bs.

#12 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-08-06 12:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

the hexagram might be a 'jewish' symbol to some, but it has existed elsewhere, before and during jewish usage, but most recently has been co-opted by zionism and now may be said to refer to the state, not the people or their history.

the flag of the only zionist state in the world has a big fat hexagram on it.

show a hexagram to people and see what they say. many will say it is the the symbol on the flag of israel.

the swastika used to mean different things before it was co-opted by the nazis.

so your problem is not with me and my viewpoint of the hexagram symbol but with the criminals that have used it over the past few generations to symbolize theft and oppression to many around the world.

i am more inclined to view the ancient hebrew menorah that's mentioned in the old testament as a symbol of judaism, keeping more in line with the spirit of the jewish faith-- not the corruption of it that has resulted in the ideology of zionism. the menorah is uniquely hebrew/jewish, unlike the hexagram, which represents many different things and was never ever a symbol unique to judaism.

#13 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-08-06 12:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

"And your jews are the devil"

oops. actually, i don't believe in the devil, so that strawman will not work.

also, not all jews are zionists and not all zionists are jews. i learned that the first time i saw a hexagram necklace around the neck of my counselor at our 6th grade catholic summer retreat...

#14 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-08-06 01:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

It isn't a strawman as that old 666 bs had been used by anti-Semites for decades. Don't want to be accused? Don't bring it up.

And you don't get to decide the Jewish symbol, sorry

#15 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-08-06 01:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

en.wikipedia.org

here at the link above we see the use of the hexagram and its in modern link and relation to the zionist movement. before the 19th century the identification of the symbol with jews was rare and insular in nature.

kanrei, you can still try to make this all about raging anti-semitism on my part, but that is disingenuous when the facts are there plain to see.

#16 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-08-06 01:07 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

"And you don't get to decide the Jewish symbol"

...as much as you don't get to decide on what it symbolizes to others.

to me, and to the first zionists back 115 years ago, it is the symbol of zionism, just as i mentioned in #11.

#17 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-08-06 01:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

"it is the symbol of zionism"

No it isn't. It's the sign of the werewolf.

#18 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-08-06 01:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

"No it isn't. It's the sign of the werewolf."

are you insinuating nulli, that all of the jewish faith (even the vegan ones) are werewolves???

#19 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-08-06 01:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

The only difference between JFK and Nixon was that JFK looked better on television. Their policies were the same.

#8 | Posted by Shawn

If their policies were the same, they'd have shot nixon too.

#20 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-08-06 01:28 PM | Reply | Flag:

"are you insinuating nulli, that all of the jewish faith (even the vegan ones) are werewolves???"

No, but it's odd that NuttyYahoo launches his most aggressive attacks against the Palestinians when the moon is full.

#21 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-08-06 01:35 PM | Reply | Flag:

"if their policies were the same, they'd have shot nixon too. "

would they have???

en.wikipedia.org

#22 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-08-06 01:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

#21 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

You are cracking me up, today.

#23 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-08-06 01:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

"NuttyYahoo launches his most aggressive attacks against the Palestinians when the moon is full"

actually the real reason he does that is because the full moon allows his fighter pilots to see the little palestinian kids better....

#24 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-08-06 01:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

When we are attacked again as on 9-11, of course our leaders will say it is because of our freedoms, and not because of our partnership with a racist nation that kills children and orders the USA around like a mutt on a leash, and that sucks up our national treasury like a hoover vacuum cleaner, and adds to our national debt. Israel has a lot less debt per capita than the USA. So why are we handing them money we do not have, or is it the bribes our politicians get as handouts from the wealthy zionists.

It is highly questionable if Israel is our ally. Allies are mutual friends not scheming one sided partners.

#25 | Posted by Robson at 2014-08-06 08:22 PM | Reply | Flag:

If not for Uncle Sam, Israel would have to spend a similar percentage of their GDP on the military like the US does, and Israeli women might have to pay for their abortions out-of-pocket like American women do.

#26 | Posted by DCTexan at 2014-08-07 12:46 AM | Reply | Flag:

Is this in addition to the hundreds of millions we already sent them?

#27 | Posted by Tor at 2014-08-07 02:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

What would Hamas do? (if we didn't help our only ally in the region)?
Play out the thought experiment if we didn't support Israel. Sure, sometimes Israeli policy is too hawkish (I can't think of any other countries we love here in the US where that happens from time to time... eh hem...)But it's still doing a lot of good stabilizing the region and otherwise doing stuff that prevents a lot worse things from happening.
Check this out:
www.theatlantic.com

#28 | Posted by drudge_comment at 2014-08-07 02:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

"What would Hamas do?"

if zionism were to disappear in the region? nothing. it would cease to be.

zionism is the cause of the issues-- and it has been for the three or four generations.

it is the itch that cause the scratch.

hamas is only a recent symptom of zionism's infection...

take away hamas and the zionists would find another way to oppress the locals and steal their land...

#29 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-08-07 02:47 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 2

#28 | Posted by drudge_comment at 2014-08-07 02:44 PM"

here's a factpage on the "journalist" of the article that drudge_comment, an obvious israeli shill, links to-- no bias there, lol...

shameproject.com

#30 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-08-07 02:56 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

Posted by drudge_comment

If you haven't figured it out yet, Drudge Comment is Moder8.

He created the alias right after he freaked out and swore he was taking a vacation from the DR.

#31 | Posted by ClownShack at 2014-08-07 03:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

#31, that is unfortunate because he is linking to one of the worst israeli shills of all-time. look at goldberg's resume of rabidity, his digest of deceit. it's sickening zionist propaganda at its lowest form.

#32 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-08-07 03:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

Fascist terrorism.

Let us know when Israel calls for the destruction of America.

Clownish.

#33 | Posted by RobThomas at 2014-08-07 03:14 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Clown, the problem with that theory is that Moder8 has been posting as recently today under his original name.

#34 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-08-07 03:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

Let us know when Israel calls for the destruction of America"

as long as they get money and weaponry and media and government support from us, it won't happen. parasitic relationships are like that...

#35 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-08-07 03:23 PM | Reply | Flag:

Clown, the problem with that theory is that Moder8 has been posting as recently today under his original name.

#34 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

He posted as Bradfordwinston and moder8 every other post.

its how he got caught.

he forgot to log off as Bradford when responding as Moder8.

#36 | Posted by ClownShack at 2014-08-07 03:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

Fair point, Clown.

I wish he'd never revealed himself as Bradford Winston. Now that Rcade knows he cut off that sock puppet account.

That stuff was comedic gold.

#37 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-08-07 03:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

I wish he'd never revealed himself as Bradford Winston.
That stuff was comedic gold.
#37 | POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2014-08-07 03:31 PM

I agree 100%.

He had become one of my favorite DR members.

#38 | Posted by ClownShack at 2014-08-07 03:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

"he forgot to log off as Bradford when responding as Moder8"

i'll have to try that with my other account...

(whoever posts after me is my alternate account)

#39 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-08-07 03:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

I hate Jews.

#40 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-08-07 03:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

oops.

i hate jews.

#41 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-08-07 03:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

I love snooze.

I sometimes wish I could live my life on snooze mode.

#42 | Posted by ClownShack at 2014-08-07 03:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

#28 "if we didn't help our only ally in the region"

Ever wonder why they're our "only ally in the region"?

#43 | Posted by TheTom at 2014-08-07 03:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

god, i simply love forcing reactions from the reactionaries!

#44 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-08-07 04:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

#8 no they empeached nixon after he made peace in nam and open talks with china

#45 | Posted by lastomykind at 2014-08-08 10:09 AM | Reply | Flag:

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