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Friday, August 01, 2014

UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon today condemned the reported ceasefire violation by Hamas and demanded that an Israeli soldier captured in Gaza be released immediately. "The Secretary-General condemns in the strongest terms the reported violation by Hamas of the mutually agreed humanitarian ceasefire which commenced this morning. He is shocked and profoundly disappointed by these developments," Ban's spokesman said in a statement.

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Noting that the UN has no independent means to verify what happened on ground, Ban said he is deeply concerned about the resumption of Israeli attacks on Gaza and the killing of over 50 Palestinians this morning.

"Instead of giving both sides, especially Gazan civilians, a much needed reprieve to let them attend to their injured, bury their dead and repair vital infrastructure, this breach of the ceasefire is now leading to a renewed escalation," Ban's spokesman said.

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'is likely to have very serious consequences'

Kaboom! Say goodbye to your neighborhood.

#1 | Posted by mysterytoy at 2014-08-01 08:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

Finally someone is speaking sense...

#2 | Posted by takitez at 2014-08-01 09:48 PM | Reply | Flag:

It might just come off the rails....

It is too early to say anything definitive about the Hamas decision to apparently break the ceasefire and attack an Israeli position, except that if it is true, as reports indicate, that Hamas militants came through a tunnel and carried underground and back into Gaza a live Israeli captive, then this moment could represent not another terrible, dispiriting incident in a terrible, dispiriting mini-war, but a fairly decisive turning point in which all swords are unsheathed.
www.theatlantic.com

#3 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-08-01 10:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

No,the guy wandered off his base

#4 | Posted by bruceaz at 2014-08-01 10:40 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

**** UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon...OWNED & OPERATED by Israel!!!

#5 | Posted by AntiCadillac at 2014-08-02 04:07 AM | Reply | Flag:

No,the guy wandered off his base

Funny.

No, no wishy washy liberals in Israel. They see the threat everyday. They have decisive leadership. They will defend themselves no matter what the world thinks. Nope, no liberals there to try to divide the nation. Loving your enemy in Israel could mean annihilation. That's a FACT.

#6 | Posted by boaz at 2014-08-02 06:48 AM | Reply | Flag:

Why not just shoot him. Unlike civilians, he is a legal target.

#7 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-08-02 09:05 AM | Reply | Flag:

Because capturing him brings rewards, not to mention the cred they build amongst Palestinian "civilians".

#8 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2014-08-02 09:30 AM | Reply | Flag:

Nope, no liberals there to try to divide the nation.

You're wandering into fantasy land again. The range of opinion within Israel is wider than the range of opinion here. There are liberals there disgusted by Israel's policies towards the Palestinians. Check out Israeli journalist and columnist Gideon Levy of Ha'aretz:

www.outlookindia.com

"It's so easy to be an Israeli; your tender conscience is pure as the driven snow: Everything is Hamas' fault. The rockets are the fault of Hamas; that can be taken for granted. Hamas started the war, for no reason; that, too, "goes without saying." Hamas is a vicious terrorist organization, beasts in human form, born to kill, fundamentalists -- and apart from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?

Some 400,000 Palestinians have been displaced. More than 1,200 have been killed, about 80 percent of them civilians, half of these women and children. Around 50 families have been obliterated, their homes bombed with them inside. It has reached the dimensions of a real massacre. But Israelis' hands are clean and their consciences are quiet -- so quiet you could cry. It's Hamas' fault.

We'll leave the root causes of this cursed repression and denial to the psychologists. Since the days when Israel accused the Palestinians of killing their own children by means of the Israel Defense Forces, we haven't seen such denial. After incubating for years, the disease is now a raging epidemic whose carriers are now symptomatic. The national conscience hasn't moved a muscle in response to this atrocity, and there are forces working to keep it that way.

Levy used to go every day into the Occupied Territories and write stories about the people there for the Israeli press. Israel made it illegal!

What he said in 2006 is just as true today:

"I want to be proud of my country," he says. "I am an Israeli patriot. I want us to do the right thing." So this requires him to point out that Palestinian violence is -- in truth -- much more limited than Israeli violence, and usually a reaction to it. "The first twenty years of the occupation passed quietly, and we did not lift a finger to end it. Instead, under cover of the quiet, we built the enormous, criminal settlement enterprise," where Palestinian land is seized by Jewish religious fundamentalists who claim it was given to them by God. Only then -- after a long period of theft, and after their attempts at peaceful resistance were met with brutal violence -- did the Palestinians become violent themselves. "What would happen if the Palestinians had not fired Qassams [the rockets shot at Southern Israel, including civilian towns]? Would Israel have lifted the economic siege? Nonsense. If the Gazans were sitting quietly, as Israel expects them to do, their case would disappear from the agenda. Nobody would give any thought to the fate of the people of Gaza if they had not behaved violently."

www.independent.co.uk

#9 | Posted by rcade at 2014-08-02 12:14 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Netanyahu Tells U.S. 'Not To Ever Second Guess Me Again' On Hamas

www.huffingtonpost.com

Who does this guy think he is? President of the U.S? Aid should be cut off as long as this monotheist extremist is running Israel. If Obama had any balls he would do that.

#10 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-08-02 12:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

UN demands and condemnation are meaningless and become more so every day. They are becoming that old lady who yells at everything that moves and is universally ignored by the neighborhood.

#11 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-08-02 12:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

Where is the call for Israel to release all of the Palestinians that it has taken away in the night?

#12 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-08-02 12:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

UN demands and condemnation are meaningless and become more so every day. They are becoming that old lady who yells at everything that moves and is universally ignored by the neighborhood.

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Which wouldn't be so if the USSA stopped protecting Israel from UN resolutions.

#13 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-08-02 12:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

RCade,

As I have stated, opinion may vary widely in Israel, its a free country, but 90% of the population agrees with the war against Hamas and its current execution.
peaceindex.org

It is argument by popularity, much like your is argument from authority.

" If the Gazans were sitting quietly, as Israel expects them to do, their case would disappear from the agenda. Nobody would give any thought to the fate of the people of Gaza if they had not behaved violently."

We have tried the violent way for 30yrs, where has it gotten us

Lets try the peaceful way.... see what happens...

Again its all about trust.

Aid should be cut off as long as this monotheist extremist is running Israel.
#10 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

Extremist? Monotheist? LOL, yeah sure.... arguing from ignorance.. ;)

#14 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-08-02 12:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Extremist? Monotheist? "

It's no coincidence that the middle east conflicts are fights between the Abrahamic monotheisms. And NuttyYahoo is indeed a religious fanatic.

#15 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-08-02 12:48 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

It is argument by popularity, much like your is argument from authority.

I wasn't claiming that anti-war voices in Israel are anywhere close to a majority. I was responding to Boaz's favorite fantasy of a world with no liberals, where the question "war?" will always be answered "more!"

#16 | Posted by rcade at 2014-08-02 12:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

I would like to know the sample size and demographics of those polled in Andreas' link. As they say: Conducting public opinions surveys in times of military conflict is a problematic task, mainly because of the difficulty of producing representative samples, the interruption of interviews by alarms, interviewees' impatience, and the fear of expressing unpopular opinions because of higher-than-normal public sensitivity to questions on issues concerning the conflict.

I really don't trust polls in general and really don't trust polls during wartime when dehumanization of the enemy is more important to those in power than actually informing the public of the realities.

#17 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-08-02 01:07 PM | Reply | Flag:

Let me see -

Hama and Israel are at war but Hamas isn't allowed to take prisoners?

Hamas is purported have accepted a ceasefire in which Israel continued to destroy the tunnels -their only means of resistance?

Apparently some people will believe anything.

#18 | Posted by T_Dubya at 2014-08-02 05:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

"We have tried the violent way for 30yrs, where has it gotten us
Lets try the peaceful way.... see what happens..."

Palestinians on the West Bank tried that - all they got were more settlements.

#19 | Posted by T_Dubya at 2014-08-02 06:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

All West Bank Palestinians voted against Hamas?

#20 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2014-08-02 06:23 PM | Reply | Flag:

"All West Bank Palestinians voted against Hamas?"

Non sequitur. The point is that the West Bank has been relatively peaceful. Their reward? More Israeli settlements.

#21 | Posted by T_Dubya at 2014-08-02 06:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

So did they try peace, or relative peace?

Help us to understand your position.

How much relative violence is acceptable before one defends themself?

#22 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2014-08-02 06:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

"How much relative violence is acceptable before one defends themself?"

How much langrubbing is acceptable before one defends oneself?

#23 | Posted by T_Dubya at 2014-08-02 08:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

Who does this guy think he is? President of the U.S? Aid should be cut off as long as this monotheist extremist is running Israel. If Obama had any balls he would do that.

#10 | Posted by nullifidian at 2

When it comes to the American citizens, Obama has no balls and neither do the subservient Repubs. Their wish from Israel becomes their command. As USA citizens our wish is in the politicians' trash can.

#24 | Posted by Robson at 2014-08-02 08:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

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