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Friday, August 01, 2014

In an interview with Katie Couric, Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg was asked whether her male colleagues understood the ramifications for women of their Hobby Lobby decision. " would have to say no," Ginsburg replied. "Contraceptive protection is something every woman must have access to, to control her own destiny. ... I certainly respect the belief of the Hobby Lobby owners. On the other hand, they have no constitutional right to foist that belief on the hundreds and hundreds of women who work for them who don't share that belief. I had never seen the free exercise of religion clause interpreted in such a way."

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I blame the Catholics.

#1 | Posted by Harry_Powell at 2014-07-31 03:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

I'd like to think they were a##holes before they were Catholics.

#2 | Posted by morris at 2014-07-31 04:23 PM | Reply | Flag:

#2

probably not. they were likely born catholics.

#3 | Posted by eberly at 2014-07-31 04:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

The contraception issue Hobby Lobby was opposed to was the contraception they thought amounted to abortion, all the rest stayed in place.

Did something change?

This is the problem with liberals, if they don't get their way they bend the truth.

If you listen solely to her you would have the impression Hobby Lobby doesn't provide any contraception.

Liar liar pant suit on fire.

rwd

#4 | Posted by rightwingdon at 2014-07-31 07:01 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

yes RIGHTWING....so true....and I heard either more of this interview or another..

the dems and white house are REALLY putting pressure on her to retire before november...for obvious reasons.

#5 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-08-01 12:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Male Justices Have 'Blind Spot' on Women"

No they don't. What they have is an agenda. One they are paid for lock stock and barrel by their special interest owners.
And while the rubes and retards argue over their preferred ideological nonsense and which career flim-flam artist best represents their ignorance and fear ----- these cretins get away with denying justice while faking the notion that any of you all have a say in how anything gets done.

#6 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2014-08-01 12:55 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

"This is the problem with liberals"

See what I mean about rubes and retards.
No sooner do I write it does one materialize

#7 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2014-08-01 12:57 PM | Reply | Flag:

"yes RIGHTWING....so true"

HAR~HAR
Actually believes hobby lobby's effort is sincere and not a racket.

Hobby lobby by the numbers;
Objects to birth control over "religious" reasons
Invests in birth control
Capitalizes on child labor
Exclusively uses unsafe, overseas cheap labor
Fires people taking maternity leave

That's some real convenient "religious" convictions they got going on.

#8 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2014-08-01 01:03 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 3

Not being able to force Nuns to provide free contraception is the same as banning it for anyone under any circumstances. Because Hitler.

#9 | Posted by visitor_ at 2014-08-01 01:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Contraceptive protection is something every woman must have access to, to control her own destiny"

Yes, control their own destiny by making others pay for their choices. Ladies and gentlemen i give you the real anti-feminist Ruth Bader Ginsburg!!!

#10 | Posted by salamandagator at 2014-08-01 01:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

No one in science or medicine considers the birth control methods which hobby lobby objects to, to meet the definition of abortion. This goes right over the brain-dead heads of five catholic Rethugs on SCOTUS that were hired by religious extremists and opportunist politicians to implement fundamental changes in settled case law. But to listen to the five and their supporters whining over the last several decades you might think they object to legislating from the bench.

It is my understanding that Hobby Lobby (like Costco) pays $15/hr starting with health insurance for full time employees.

#11 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-08-01 01:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

Sounds like she doesn't understand and is unfit to be in office. She needs to be impeached for a long history of being on the wrong side of every decision.
This had nothing to do with birth control pills hobby lobby gives those to employes if she didn't know that she is unfit.

#12 | Posted by tmaster at 2014-08-01 02:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

'Blind Spot' on Women

Funny, that's the one spot I never bother trying to find.

#13 | Posted by TheTom at 2014-08-01 03:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

Ginsburg paraphrase: 'Women's reproductive systems are 0% of your business but should be 100% of your financial responsibility

The premise of this diatribe is very clearly sexism.

This is the definition of sexism.

#14 | Posted by HeuristicGratis at 2014-08-01 03:01 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

So Hobby Lobby prohibits it's employees from using contraception?

I didn't know that...

#15 | Posted by madbomber at 2014-08-01 03:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Contraceptive protection is something every woman must have access to, to control her own destiny"

Yes, control their own destiny by making others pay for their choices.

You nuts will gladly pay for War but get all squeamish when it comes to paying for others health care.

I guess I just don't get it.

Isn't being healthy also a form of Defense? The first line of Defense actually?

#16 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-08-01 06:44 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Fires people taking maternity leave

That's some real convenient "religious" convictions they got going on.

#8 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2014-08-01 01:03 PM | Reply | Flag

Allegedly fired her. She is the only incident that I can find about Hobby Lobby firing a woman on maternity.

Then again chief, don't let the facts get in the way of your reality.

rwd

#17 | Posted by rightwingdon at 2014-08-01 08:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

should be 100% of your financial responsibility

I was unaware that hobby lobby paid 100% of their employees premiums? Oh they don't? Well who knew from the way the right talks.

Abortion? Women's Choice? Paying 100% of your health care? Who cares that is not what the case was about just more distractions from the fact that corporations gained one more right, the right to have a religion.

I will need to talk with my pastor about how we can afford a larger sanctuary I don't think Cisco's HQ will fit in there when it wants to come to church.

#19 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2014-08-02 08:39 AM | Reply | Flag:

See what I mean about rubes and retards.
No sooner do I write it does one materialize

#7 | POSTED BY CHIEFTUTMOSES AT 2014-08-01 12:57 PM | FLAG:

Irony alert!
He posted prior to you. Retard.

Yeah! Your second sentence makes no sense!

#20 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2014-08-02 09:36 AM | Reply | Flag:

Blah, blah, blah.

You can slice it and dice it any way you want, but it all comes down to the same old same old.... using religion to push an agenda.

Only the agenda is not beliefs, it's corporate profit margins.

#21 | Posted by kudzu at 2014-08-02 09:46 AM | Reply | Flag:

Religion, race, sexual orientation, and sex all push an agenda, for "belief" and profit.

#22 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2014-08-02 09:51 AM | Reply | Flag:

Contraception is not just vital to an individuals destiny in today's complex society. Population growth and resource management are on a tragic collision course. Water is more vital than oil, second only to the air we breath. We see this played out every day in Africa and the Western United States is in big trouble.

The only long term solution is to curb population growth, including immigration. Capitalism cannot tolerate zero or negative growth that would improve the quality of our lives and lower the cost of living. Less traffic, lower housing and energy costs. But, we are led by the blind and corrupt, who are bought by Bankers and Industrialists. Who speaks in this country of quality of life? The only value reflected in American politics is Corporate profits. Unfortunately, this distinguishes us from Europe, but not Asia. In Europe more consideration is given to the health and well being of ordinary people.

#23 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-08-02 10:03 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

[...] Birth control decision doesn't bother me. Corporations having religious rights does.

#24 | Posted by eberly at 2014-08-02 10:14 AM | Reply | Flag:

Males justices respond: We don't have a blind spot for women; that ain't a gavel in our pockets.

#25 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-08-02 01:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

Ginsburg replied. "Contraceptive protection is something every woman must have access to, to control her own destiny....

woman can still get contraception, they just can't force others to pay for it.

BTW - isn't justice supposed to be blind?

#26 | Posted by danv at 2014-08-02 05:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

they just can't force others to pay for it

So Uh they don't pay their own insurance premiums?

#27 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2014-08-02 06:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

Justus Clarence calls for a intromission!

#28 | Posted by FlyUntied at 2014-08-02 06:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

27
Are you under the mistaken impression that "premiums" cover the entire cost of your medicines and doctor visits?

Where do you believe the difference is made up? Now are you seeing why your question is so stupid?

#29 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2014-08-02 06:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

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Racist. Your kind are a dying breed, thankfully.

#30 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2014-08-02 06:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

In my 20's I paid significantly more in premiums per year than the cost of the care I used. It wasn't until I got MS that I had a chance to pull ahead and the insurance company promptly refused to cover MS so yeah for most of the people looking for contraceptive coverage their premiums probably do exceed the pay out.

There is also the fact that a baby cost a lot more than contraception in terms of medical cost so paying for contraception does cost the insurance company much less than paying for a pregnancy. So once again if you are going to argue they are getting something for free it will fall on deaf ears from me.

#31 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2014-08-02 06:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

So Uh they don't pay their own insurance premiums?

#27 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2014-08-02 06:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

The business pays their fair share too. The premiums are subsidized by the business, otherwise it would be individual healthcare plan instead of employer sponsered.

#32 | Posted by danv at 2014-08-02 07:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

Racist. Your kind are a dying breed, thankfully.

#30 | Posted by 101Chairborne

It's a joke. You have to know what 'intromission' means, and connect that with the testimonies of women at Clarences's confirmation.

#33 | Posted by FlyUntied at 2014-08-02 07:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

Two things I can't stand : one is a racist, the other a washed-up potbellied recliner jockey that thinks he's a hero

#34 | Posted by FlyUntied at 2014-08-02 07:23 PM | Reply | Flag:

The premiums are subsidized by the business,

No, the overall premium cost is shared by both employer and employee and is only triggered if the employee laborers for the employer, ergo any benefit is directly earned, not just given.

The business' costs for health insurance is subsidized by all taxpayers as they receives tax credits for instituting employer-based health insurance, a practice encouraged in the pre-ACA days.

#35 | Posted by tonyroma at 2014-08-02 07:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

Blind Spot' on Women

Funny, that's the one spot I never bother trying to find.

#13 | Posted by TheTom at 2014-08-01

just wanted to let you know I didn't let this pass without a chuckle....

plus it's always entertaining to read the party of TED KENNEDY lecture us on women....

#36 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-08-03 11:56 AM | Reply | Flag:

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