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Wednesday, July 30, 2014

Two police officers in El Monte, California, walked into a family's yard past a "Beware of Dog" sign, fatally shot the family's two-year-old German Shepherd and changed their story of why it happened after learning a video existed of the incident. "Police said the officers shook the gate and proceeded cautiously only to be set upon by the dog. The video shows a very different scene," writes Jonathan Turley. The officers' actions were cleared by police, with Chief Steven Schuster stating there were "no sustained policy violations found."

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Turley writes, "That is a remarkably forgiving standard for police misconduct."

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Can't we just stop paying the police? They obviously don't give a crap about anyone but themselves. Why do we keep paying them?

#1 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2014-07-30 06:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

I would like to see the video......

Can you produce that?

#2 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-07-30 06:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

#2 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

www.youtube.com

#3 | Posted by Lohocla at 2014-07-30 06:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

BTW, took me longer to watch it than to find it. Google and youtube are easy enough to use. Just saying.

#4 | Posted by Lohocla at 2014-07-30 06:21 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

Google and youtube are easy enough to use. Just saying.

Not when doing so is with the purpose of challenging one's own assumptions or opinions.

#5 | Posted by jpw at 2014-07-30 06:24 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

#5 | POSTED BY JPW

True, idiocy is bad enough when it's not self inflicted.

#6 | Posted by Lohocla at 2014-07-30 06:29 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

The Penguins - Memories of El Monte
www.youtube.com

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-07-30 06:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Chief Steven Schuster stating there were "no sustained policy violations found.""

Few bad apples, blah blah blah.

Sincerely,

The usual apologists

#8 | Posted by sully at 2014-07-30 06:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

It won't bring the dog back, but I would think these people have the grounds for a pretty significant civil case against the officers and the department.

#9 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2014-07-30 06:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

Hrmmm - Making false statements isn't an issue in his department?

#10 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2014-07-30 06:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

There's no punishment for cops that shoot innocent humans and lie about it.

You think they're gonna do something about a dog getting shot?

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2014-07-30 07:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

"BTW, took me longer to watch it than to find it. Google and youtube are easy enough to use. Just saying."

Reasonable...

I checked through the article and the video was down.... so thats why I asked.

Thanks

#12 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-07-30 07:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

I doesn't show the complete episode, in fact its been cut and spliced....

Not when doing so is with the purpose of challenging one's own assumptions or opinions.
#5 | POSTED BY JPW

It would seem the assumptions are those that rely upon some two-bit blogger. The video doesn't show the shooting. Its been spliced and cut.

Again where is the video...

#13 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-07-30 07:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

Nice dog! Hmmmmm. I bet the neighbors like the cops. Have you ever been mauled by several dogs. I have. Note: I hope the new puppy is a US born citizen. I it doesn't matter if the new dog is cute but yappy! I bet the police won't shoot it!

#14 | Posted by parjosg2 at 2014-07-30 08:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

I would think these people have the grounds for a pretty significant civil case against the officers and the department.

It depends on the state, many do not allow damages beyond the fair market value of the dog. Apparently, CA is no longer one of those states. www.anappealtoreason.com

#15 | Posted by et_al at 2014-07-30 08:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

It won't bring the dog back, but I would think these people have the grounds for a pretty significant civil case against the officers and the department...#9 | Posted by Whatsleft

In most states a dog's value is what folks paid for it. Sentimental "value" is not an issue. If the folks paid $50 for the dog, that is what most courts will award them, I believe.

#16 | Posted by SammyAZ_RI at 2014-07-30 08:48 PM | Reply | Flag:

As much as his underlings deserve to have their n--s cut off, Chief Schuster is a real piece of work and possibly the best example of inciting cyclical behavior of distrust and abuse by police.

#17 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2014-07-31 01:53 AM | Reply | Flag:

#13 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

Whole uncut video.
www.youtube.com

Again, sadly it's simple search that you could have easily found yourself if you had taken but 20 seconds and searched "EL MONTE DOG SHOOTING" on youtube and selected the second video that came up.

It doesn't show the "shooting" because they only have one camera, but it does show the dog flinch and run away and the female cop calmly walking back with her weapon upholstered after the dog ran off.

Starting to look like JPW was accurate in his assessment.

#18 | Posted by Lohocla at 2014-07-31 07:38 AM | Reply | Flag:

damn spellcheck

unholstered, not upholstered, that would just be silly.;P

#19 | Posted by Lohocla at 2014-07-31 07:41 AM | Reply | Flag:

Can't we just stop paying the police? They obviously don't give a crap about anyone but themselves. Why do we keep paying them?

#1 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2014-07-30 06:11 PM | Reply

If this trend of not protecting and not serving continues, the public will eventually have enough, and will demand that funding for police departments be drastically cut. When this view by the public coalesces in mass with concerned citizens, the elected officials who control purse strings will have to react. Those in PDs with a storm trooper culture are cutting their own throat, but that doesn't bring back lives that are lost.

#20 | Posted by Robson at 2014-07-31 10:12 AM | Reply | Flag:

Well at least they did not throw a grenade into a baby's crib this time.

#21 | Posted by 726 at 2014-07-31 10:48 AM | Reply | Flag:

It's good to know that police officer's lying to cover their actions are not against department policy.

#22 | Posted by 726 at 2014-07-31 10:50 AM | Reply | Flag:

The Police, their management and Judges understand that they depend on each other and support each other absolutely.

#23 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-07-31 10:52 AM | Reply | Flag:

It's good to know that police officer's lying to cover their actions are not against department policy.

#22 | Posted by 726 at 2014-07-31 10:50 AM | Reply | Flag:

Even if they didn't kill anything, just lying about a situation where a shot was fired would be grounds for immediate termination.

#24 | Posted by Sully at 2014-07-31 11:02 AM | Reply | Flag:

Lets not forget Rubie Ridge the kid was killed when he shoot back at police who killed his dog. This needs to stop we have many stories of ATF raiding homes killing dogs and stomping on CATS!

They do this because they think they are above the law. And if they can not find anything illegal they get mad and kill all the family pets and destroy records and perception drugs.

As long as we have a government that thinks its in charge this will not stop.

#25 | Posted by tmaster at 2014-07-31 12:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

Could have used him in Michigan:

Prosecutors filed second-degree murder charges against the Metamora Township couple they say owned two dogs that fatally mauled a 46-year-old Livonia jogger.

"We did conduct a search warrant last week on the house and took (nine) remaining animals out of the house. Eleven total have been removed."

Federal authorities say the dogs' owners, who are from Albania, were living in the U.S. illegally and facing deportation at the time of the mauling.

From The Detroit News: www.detroitnews.com

#26 | Posted by northguy3 at 2014-07-31 11:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

Cops are people and people screw up. What is unforgivable is the lie. I have NEVER heard of any police department that allowed an officer to stay on the force after they lied to their superiors. I guess El Monte is really hurting for cops.

#27 | Posted by docnjo at 2014-08-01 12:56 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

"They do this because they think they are above the law."

Its not only that. If you were above the law would you shoot dogs?

Cops who do things like this are sick people who are above the law. And the other cops who condone their actions by refusing to enforce the law against them are guilty of being accomplices. That they are following an establish code of cowardice does't make them any less complicite.

#28 | Posted by Sully at 2014-08-01 10:07 AM | Reply | Flag:

#28 | Posted by Sully at 2014-08-01 10:07 AM | Reply | Flag:

I'm sure there is some underlying issues but, I think a lot of it is training. These guys get pumped doses of "don't take any s----" "you are in control". "The subject you approach must follow orders". "Exude authority". The other problem with cops is they think that if they screw up you'll get your day in court to prove you were innocent.

#29 | Posted by Dalton at 2014-08-01 10:32 AM | Reply | Flag:

Cops today grew up post Hill Street Blues which introduced the concept of cops "doing it to them before they do it to us." Laugh if you wish, but a generation of kids grew up on shows like that and became those types of cops as a result.

If only Cop Rock made it; I would rather the singing dancing cops break down my door.

#30 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-08-01 10:35 AM | Reply | Flag:

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