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Monday, July 28, 2014

The tragedy of Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17 has brought the conflict between Russia and Ukraine back into the headlines. This crisis, and the accompanying crackdown on domestic dissent in Russia, represents a new and frightening phase in a process that began 15 years ago: Vladimir Putin's reversal of the freedoms Russia gained after the fall of communism in 1991 and the creation of a new authoritarian Kremlin regime.

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Consider it a predictive metaphor for recent events in Russia, a quarter century after the country's awakening from communism. The neo-authoritarian Kremlin regime of Vladimir Putin is squeezing the air out of the remaining pockets of dissent, cranking up the propaganda machine to Soviet levels, and setting up the conditions for a new Iron Curtain.

The spring of 2014 featured a high-water mark for Putin's post-Soviet restoration, with its belligerent rejection of "Western values," its confrontational stance toward NATO, and its aggressive claims towards former Soviet territories.

As Komsomolskaya Pravda columnist Ulyana Skoibeda rhapsodised after the mostly unchallenged Russian annexation of the Ukrainian territory of Crimea, "It's not about the Crimea coming back to us. It's we who have come back. Home, to the USSR."

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Vladimir Putin's Circle of Fear

Worst Disney World ride ever.

#1 | Posted by rcade at 2014-07-27 03:48 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 2

#18

I sounds more like something they'd do at universal studios, except the ride would rock

#2 | Posted by eberly at 2014-07-27 04:07 PM | Reply | Flag:

Hell of a guy!

#3 | Posted by kenx at 2014-07-28 08:48 AM | Reply | Flag:

What's wild to me is that with all of the MH17 news, there was a very daming revelation that was totally drowned out.

Multiple videos were geolocated and were able to precisely triangulate where BM-21 Grad artillery fire was being launched from. It was coming from well within Russian territory. That is a considerable escalation from funding an insurgency to direct combat support.

#4 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2014-07-28 09:51 AM | Reply | Flag:

and it all happened because Ukraine handled the cease fire much more intelligently. The insurgents launched a few raids on checkpoints. The Ukrainians discretely rallied their forces, pretended they would renew the ceasefire, then when the time came launched all out assaults and recaptured significant territory.

It's on to what could be the final showdown (for now at least). Crimea is gone, but they'll retake Donetsk handily without another major escalation by Putin.

#5 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2014-07-28 09:55 AM | Reply | Flag:

George Orwell said it most clearly in his description of an authoritarian state, War is Peace, even where no conflict exists the masses must feel a external danger which unites and focuses the subject population outward, while ignoring the real threat within. Ignorance is Strength, Control the narrative and you have control the mind. Freedom is Slavery, dissent must be made disloyalty, opinion differing from the party line is sedition. Punishment for these offenses must be public, and repetitive. Putin is right on course to start killing a lot of Russians, just like Stalin. For all you progressives that believe that government is our friend and other lies, remember the leading cause of death in the last century was the deliberate murder of subject populations by their own governments, not war or even sickness, all in the name of "progress".

#6 | Posted by docnjo at 2014-07-28 09:55 AM | Reply | Flag:

What about the American empires 'circle of fear' consisting of fascist viceroys all over the planet?

No mention of that eh?

More propaganda for morons.

#7 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-07-28 11:01 AM | Reply | Flag:

I'd chip in for a plane ticket to Russia for Shawn.

One way.

#8 | Posted by Corky at 2014-07-28 11:06 AM | Reply | Flag:

The first loss in war is the truth. We are no different than the Russians in this respect. The article is similar to talking about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict without noticing who is encroaching on who. Guess what folks, the USA and NATO are encroaching on the Russians.

#9 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-07-28 12:02 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

"Guess what folks, the USA and NATO are encroaching on the Russians."

Utter nonsense. Ukraine is exerting their own will as a sovereign nation with no obligation, whatsoever, to remain within the orbit of Russia. Putin just doesn't like that idea very much, it can hardly be considered our fault simply because we have more to offer the Ukrainians than he does.

#10 | Posted by danni at 2014-07-28 12:10 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

"For all you progressives that believe that government is our friend and other lies,"

Oh, I get it, we'd be better off without a government. What a ridiculous post. Just stupid.

#11 | Posted by danni at 2014-07-28 12:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

If Ukraine falls, then ALL the dominoes will surely follow. We need to identify all the REDS in hollywood and crush Castro ASAP.

Oh MY! SPIN UP THE SILOS PEOPLE!!

#12 | Posted by DeadSpin at 2014-07-28 01:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Circle of Fear"

Sounds like Reagan's "evil empire".

#13 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-07-28 01:30 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

"Circle of Fear"

Sounds like Reagan's "evil empire".

Posted by nullifidian at 2014-07-28 01:30 PM | Reply

Or Axis of Evil.

Oooooooo scary.................NOT

#14 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-07-28 01:32 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Utter nonsense. Ukraine is exerting their own will as a sovereign nation with no obligation, whatsoever, to remain within the orbit of Russia. Putin just doesn't like that idea very much, it can hardly be considered our fault simply because we have more to offer the Ukrainians than he does.

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Your argument is completely self serving. The American empire does far worse all over the world. Where is your condemnation of the behavior of American corporations and their legalized hit men all over the planet? You don't care.

#15 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-07-28 01:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

The USA financed a coup in the Ukraine against a corrupt, but legitimately elected Government that was soon up for re-election. Yanukovych's signing of trade agreements with Russia triggered the coup. Those agreements made sense for the same reason natural gas agreements make sense for Germany, they are geographically linked. Since then trade agreements have been entered into between Ukraine and NATO countries. Either way its a bad deal for the Ukraine.

#16 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-07-28 02:45 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

We might be guilty of a lot, but let us not take a worm's eye view of the history in the area. Stalin killed a third of the population in the Ukraine before the first German soldier set foot there. The Nazis didn't kill as many as the communists, but they were distracted fighting a war, they only killed another third of the remainder. After the Reds reoccupied Ukraine, and killed large numbers of the people for being collaborators, the area was so depopulated Stalin and Kerchief had to move farmers from other areas of the Soviet Union to get the farms going again, hence the large numbers of "Ethnic Russians". I wonder if the progressives would be so fast to condemn the actions of the NGOs in the Ukraine if you were forced to remember that the biggest player in the mix was George Sorros?

#17 | Posted by docnjo at 2014-07-28 04:02 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

"Those agreements made sense for the same reason natural gas agreements make sense for Germany, they are geographically linked."

That's not for you to decide. Ukraine is also geographically linked to Europe and that is the direction most Ukrainians believe their best hope for the future lie in. Sorry you disapprove.

#18 | Posted by danni at 2014-07-28 04:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

All government is the the legitimation of violence under one authority. Where the people fear the government, you have tyranny, where the government fears the people you have liberty. The most stupid thing ever spoken by a progressive is "trust me, I work for the government, I am here to help". Governments can only kill, destroy corrupt. That is why the old dead white guys had so many restrictions in the Constitution for it's operation. Sam Adams and Thomas Payne did not trust large central governments- I am inclined to agree.

#19 | Posted by docnjo at 2014-07-28 04:24 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

Large Centralized Corporations are worse than large centralized Governments. If for no other reason than they cannot be run out of office at the ballot box.

#20 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-07-28 05:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

Sam Adams and Thomas Payne did not trust large central governments- I am inclined to agree.
#36 | Posted by docnjo

You'd rather trust the small-town sheriff?
Let me guess: You're a white male over 60.

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-07-28 06:43 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

You'd rather trust the small-town sheriff?

Yes.

Absolutely.

People are all corruptible. Lemme ask you this:

Who is more dangerous:

Boss Tweed as a mayor or Boss Tweed as POTUS?

#22 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-07-28 06:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

How long does a freed nation need a strongman to keep it together?

#23 | Posted by Tor at 2014-07-28 07:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

Boss Tweed as a mayor or Boss Tweed as POTUS?
#39 | Posted by JeffJ

Depends on the relative strength (and degree of corruption) of the other institutions of government.
Small towns don't have a lot in the way of checks and balances, and tend to have power highly consolidated in the hands of a (corrupt) few.
Do the math.

#24 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-07-28 07:09 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Guess what folks, the USA and NATO are encroaching on the Russians.

What are they going to do, absorb Russia and make it a NATO member?

I haven't seen the USA/NATO physically annexing regions by military force, nor encouraging separatists who openly wave US/NATO flags.

Still waiting for an explanation for why it's okay for Russia to crack down on insurgents (even destroying whole cities), but its neighbors don't have the right to crack down at all on them.

#25 | Posted by sentinel at 2014-07-28 08:23 PM | Reply | Flag:

To answer JJ's question all you have to do is compare life in the South for blacks before the civil rights movement and Federal intervention. Without Federal intervention black schools would be in worse shape than they are. It is easier to get away with morally reprehensible behavior on a small scale.

Sent is way off base. The USA is attempting to choke off Russian oil trade. To achieve this the USA has attempted to provoke a Russian invasion, which would outrage Europe. Putin hasn't taken the bait so the downing of the Malaysian Airplane has been used in the same way. In addition the USA is planting missiles aimed at Russia in Poland and Romania. We get away with this because many of Russia's neighbors fear and hate Russia. But, no country is better off on account of our intervention (Israel excepted). Russia is clandestinely supporting the insurgents, as we do all around the world. Whether the Neo-Nazis we put in power or Russian insurgents are more brutal is open to question.

#26 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-07-28 09:38 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

What are they going to do, absorb Russia and make it a NATO member?

#42 | Posted by sentinel at 2014-07-28 08:23 PM | Reply

Just as the U.S. has destabilized other nations and Ukraine, they have and will attempt to destabilize Russia internally. NGOs have been busy in Russia in the recent past and probably one of the reasons Putin is clamping down on certain groups.

Just remember the Wolfowitz doctrine which is alive and well with the neocons in Washington:

"The doctrine announces the U.S's status as the world's only remaining superpower following the collapse of the Soviet Union at the end of the Cold War and proclaims its main objective to be retaining that status.
Our first objective is to prevent the re-emergence of a new rival, either on the territory of the former Soviet Union or elsewhere, that poses a threat on the order of that posed formerly by the Soviet Union. This is a dominant consideration underlying the new regional defense strategy and requires that we endeavor to prevent any hostile power from dominating a region whose resources would, under consolidated control, be sufficient to generate global power.
U.S. primacy
The doctrine establishes the U.S's leadership role within the new world order.
The U.S. must show the leadership necessary to establish and protect a new order that holds the promise of convincing potential competitors that they need not aspire to a greater role or pursue a more aggressive posture to protect their legitimate interests. In non-defense areas, we must account sufficiently for the interests of the advanced industrial nations to discourage them from challenging our leadership or seeking to overturn the established political and economic order. We must maintain the mechanism for deterring potential competitors from even aspiring to a larger regional or global role."

#27 | Posted by matsop at 2014-07-28 10:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

The US schemed for 31 years to replace the pound. This replacement was sealed in the midst of the rubble of the Second World War when the US called the Bretton Woods meeting in 1944. Just as how the pound reigned supreme in the heyday of British imperialism, so today, the dollar enjoys a number of advantages as the world reserve currency.
Numerous writers have drawn attention to the takeover of the US financial system by predators that have created a global Ponzi scheme with the requisite ideological stance that the large and sophisticated financial sector of the US economy represented a global good for humanity. This military, political and ideological power of the US financial oligarchy was severely punctured in the wake of the North Atlantic financial crisis of 2008, but even after this crisis the US embarked on a new form of war, which the Brazilian finance minister, Guido Mantega, termed a currency war.

In the last major capitalist depression, eighty years ago, the major capitalist countries were then colonial powers and were able to transfer the costs of the depression on to the backs and shoulders of colonized persons. In the case of Germany and Japan, these societies had embarked on aggressive militaristic actions to counter the massive crisis of the thirties.

In the aftermath of the 2008 crisis the poor countries of the world had to increase their dollar reserves, thus providing cheap finance for the U.S external deficit. From this injustice BRICS has sprung. The BRICS summit announced two new pillars in a new financial architecture that is to be anchored with the headquarters of the New Development Bank in Shanghai, China.

The Fortaleza Action Plan and the outcomes of this summit represented a major step in breaking the Exorbitant Privilege of the US dollar as a the dominant international currency. Along with the formal establishment of the New Development Bank (NDB), the leaders announced the launch of a Contingency Reserve Arrangement (CRA), which in 2013 was approved to receive a $100 billion fund to combat currency crises. The first president of the Bank will be from India, the inaugural Chairman of the Board of directors will come from Brazil and the inaugural chairman of the Board of Governors will be Russian. The BRICS Bank would be organized on the basis of equality unlike the current IMF and World Bank where the leader of the IMF is always a European and the head of the World Bank is always a U.S citizen. The CRA will replace the International Monetary Fund (IMF) as the provider of resources for BRICS members and other poor societies when there is balance of payment difficulties.

#28 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-07-29 02:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

The Chinese oil company PetroChina overtook Exxon Mobil as the number one oil company in the world. Along with the state owned oil companies such as Gazprom (Russia) and Petrobras (Brazil) the BRICS formation already have an interest in new financial arrangements for energy to break from the control of the link between oil and the dollar. In future, the BRICS energy alliance will have the capability to bring in state owned oil companies such the National Iranian Oil Co., Petróleos de Venezuela, Sonatrach of Algeria, and Petronas (Malaysia). State-owned companies such as the ones mentioned above along with companies from Norway, Qatar, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia now control more than 75% of all crude oil production. Oil producing states of the Middle East have been hoarding gold as a hedge against the inevitable fall of the value of the dollar.

The BRICS bank is emerging at a moment when the failures of the strategies of global capital are destroying human beings and the planet earth with citizens all over the world looking for social and political formations that can accelerate inclusive sustainable transformations.

Progressive forces from the West will not tolerate BRICS as a replacement for western imperialism. Where does that take us? (Horace Campbell)

#29 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-07-29 02:28 PM | Reply | Flag:

Was Putin in on Project Hammer?! Is this preparation for a deep economic crisis?

He's desperate to manufacture approval. There is no misunderstanding the parallel Republicans love for Putin as they publicly shepherded his invasions since 2008 and forgive his overzealous military downing Flight MH17. They too are brute propagandists.

That said, is he acting with foreknowledge of an upcoming collapse because he also has "ownership"? I can absolutely see him as a traitor profiteer, not just an uncouth imperialist.

#30 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2014-07-30 02:17 AM | Reply | Flag:

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