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Monday, July 21, 2014

An MSNBC contributor used her appearance on the cable news channel Monday to sharply criticize its coverage of the Israel-Hamas conflict. During an interview on Ronan Farrow Daily, Palestinian journalist Rula Jebreal said influence from pro-Israel forces makes the news coverage more favorable to Israel. "Because of AIPAC, and because of the money behind it, and because of Sheldon Adelson, and because of all of us in the media. We are ridiculous. We are disgustingly biased when it comes to this issue," Jebreal said. "Look at how many airtime Netanyahu and his folks have on air on a daily basis. Andrea Mitchell and others," she continued, referring to the MSNBC stalwart whose show airs right before Farrow's afternoon program. "I never see one Palestinian being interviewed on theses same issues."

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And Pro Terrorist commentators, what about them? We need to see both sides of all issues, and if there isn't one, one should be made up and seen as equal in whatever conflict there is.

#1 | Posted by Marty at 2014-07-21 04:22 PM | Reply | Flag:

They should interview all the cowardly Palestinian supporters that post here on the retort. Maybe msnbc can interview them on the plane ride over to Israel, where they'll show their support for Hamas by fighting the Jews on their behalf.

#2 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2014-07-21 04:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

About damned time.

#3 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-07-21 04:44 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

Come on guys, let's not pretend that those on the strip don't have a side. It's Hamas, not the people who live there, which is the problem. It's possible to show compassion and look for peaceful solutions while still supporting the Israeli right to self defense. What a horror if that were to turn out not to be the case.

#4 | Posted by midiman at 2014-07-21 04:47 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

Can't really argue that the US views this situation fairly. I'm no fan of methods the Palestinians use or the fact that they can't seem to learn from their mistakes. But when every single one of major politicians feels the need to kiss Israel's butt publicly because any and all criticism of Israel is considered a career killer, that's a problem. That any foreign power, let alone one who counts on us to keep it viable, has this kind of power here should be cause for alarm for any American.

People argue here all the time that MSNBC is just mouthpiece for our government. So if they're a mouthpiece for a government that is corrupted by Israel it only stands to reason that they're biased.

Like most conflicts, this is one we should stay out of because if we were honest with ourselves we'd realize that both sides deserve each other.

#5 | Posted by sully at 2014-07-21 04:52 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

It's nice to see two young ladies discuss international politics.

#6 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2014-07-21 05:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

We'll let the left embrace Hamas and the Palestinian cause. Maybe they can also help us better understand the intentions of the Palestinians (under the leadership of Hamas). From what I can gather, it doesn't sound very peaceful. Hitler would be proud!

"Regarding the Jews, our business with them is only through bombs and guns[…]" (Nizar Rayan, Hamas' religious and military leader, Al-Aqsa TV (Hamas), December 31st, 2008)

"We find more than one condemnation and denunciation of the resistance operations and bombings, carried out by Hamas and the Palestinian resistance branches… [Eventually] everyone will know that we did this only because our Lord commanded so: ‘I did it not of my own accord' [Quran] and so that people will know that the extermination of Jews is good for the inhabitants of the worlds." (April 23rd, 2007) [...]

#7 | Posted by CaseyJones at 2014-07-21 05:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

But when every single one of major politicians feels the need to kiss Israel's butt publicly because any and all criticism of Israel is considered a career killer, that's a problem. That any foreign power, let alone one who counts on us to keep it viable, has this kind of power here should be cause for alarm for any American.

I blame religion.

Because there is more involved than just politicking. It has to do with deeply held religious belief systems colliding.

Can you imagine? WE can. They cannot. And politicians are afraid of offending the Xtians.

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...

#8 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-07-21 05:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

- It has to do with deeply held religious belief systems colliding.

Horse manure. It has to do with land and power, population and geopolitical proxies far more than religion.

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2014-07-21 05:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

But when every single one of major politicians feels the need to kiss Israel's butt publicly because any and all criticism of Israel is considered a career killer, that's a problem.

There's wider debate on Israel/Palestine in Israel media than American media. It's a third rail in American politics for presidents and members of Congress to criticize Israel, and as a result our ability to steer Israel in any way is severely limited.

I got a glimpse of Israel's power in Congress the day Netanyahu spoke to a joint session. I was in the Capitol that day with a group of small web publishers to meet with Congress members and their aides.

All members went to see Netanyahu. The halls of Congress were full of hundreds of AIPAC members wearing green lanyards. In every Congress member's office we saw, an AIPAC delegation of multiple people was watching Netanyahu speak on TV with that member's top aides.

It was a visible display of AIPAC's power to mobilize people *and* get them in each Congress member's door.

#11 | Posted by rcade at 2014-07-21 06:04 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Frankly neither side in this conflict has learned from the other.

Stupid Rocket attacks will not work - grow up Hamas.
Capturing Isreali's isn't going to end this especially at a rate of hundreds captured and killed to 1 - dumb.
Ignoring the plight of the common people of Gaza and the West bank won't end this.

Arms alone will not win this unless you commit deliberate genocide. So that said - IF Israel wanted peace a good start would be providing essential aid to Palestinians in these locations. Provide them with medical care. Provide them food and clothing. Provide them other essential resources. Openly and obviously. I don't know how many would take it at first (fearing they will be poisoned) or how Hamas would react. Help in reconstruction and construction of an infrastructure. I don't see how you could do it without a lot of security who would be prone to overreacting today though. Show humanity and compassion over time (several years likely) there will be change. At that point Hamas will be marginalized and real negotiations can proceed. The problem is the people there today see no difference from 30 years ago. In fact it may be worse so they have resorted to more drastic measures that don't work.

#12 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2014-07-21 06:07 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

IF Israel wanted peace a good start would be providing essential aid to Palestinians in these locations.

Provide them with medical care - They do, they setup right outside Gaza. On top of they thousands goto Israel for treatment every year, see Saving Children.

Provide them food and clothing - Better yet provide them with Jobs, like SodaStream, but there are those that boycott Israeli, or US companies employing Palestinians, why? There used to not be a wall between the two, before the First Infitada. Today you can't find a garbage can in town...

Provide them other essential resources - Jobs!

Openly and obviously - Google is your friend.

At that point Hamas will be marginalized and real negotiations can proceed.

When you throw Fatah off the roof, what chance do you think there is that someone will oppose Hamas, it was a simple transition of power? The oppression of the average citizen of Palestine is because of Hamas driven ideologies, not Israeli policy.

#12 | POSTED BY GALAXIEPETE

Though I admit Israel isn't perfect, but as RCade says it has large discussions about it internally, more so than we do in the US. It has people that are trying to do right. But it is a real discussion, none of this "genocide" crap I see here.

But I don't see any discussion on the Palestinian side of what they can do better.... why is that?

#15 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-07-21 06:22 PM | Reply | Flag:

"There's wider debate on Israel/Palestine in Israel media than American media. " - RCAde

You think the American debate is narrow, try the Palestinian media....

#16 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-07-21 06:23 PM | Reply | Flag:

#12,

Palistinians are pawns. They have been used over and over again by everything from religeous nutjobs to Terrorist States like Iran. They are the ultimate proxies with which to push Israel a little further into the sea for a few bucks. And they will continue to be as long as agents such as Hamas/Iran are allowed to keep using them. Did you happen to notice who was scrambling to get on TV last week with rhetoric screaming that they were going to "push Israel into the sea" when Israel had already pretty much agreed to a cease fire? Iran and Hamas. IMHO, the only way there is ever going to be a solution other than the ellimination of Israel and more specifically, Jews, or continued death of Palistinians is going to somehow ban outside agitation (not going to be easy) and give the two states time to become "neighbors". But make no mistake, Israel only has two choices. 1)Fight or 2) die. Minding thier own business has proven to be a non-option. And to trying to place blame on Israel for being better at fighting than the people attacking them is just silly.

The solution to problem is as it always has been. Eliminate Oil and Religeon from the argument. Good luck on that one.

#18 | Posted by bogey1355 at 2014-07-21 06:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

#12 | Posted by GalaxiePete

Throwing money at them isn't going to work and Israel already does that.

#19 | Posted by boaz at 2014-07-21 09:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

The pro-Israel prejudice on all US media is staggering. But the entire US mass media system is just a US Government propaganda machine built on the model of Goebbels. Its not just MSNBC folks.

#20 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-07-21 09:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

If I were an Israeli, I would pack my bags and find some part of the world that welcomed me. Any parent that chooses to raise their children in that environment, if they have the option of leaving, is allowing pride or religious nonsense to cause the unnecessary deaths of children, their own or of their enemy's. I wouldn't participate in this religious war, it's sick.

#21 | Posted by danni at 2014-07-21 10:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

"It has to do with land and power, population and geopolitical proxies far more than religion."

yes.. it has to do land and power.. that each monotheist believes was promised to them by God himself.

#22 | Posted by klifferd at 2014-07-22 12:02 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

They should interview all the cowardly Palestinian supporters that post here on the retort. Maybe msnbc can interview them on the plane ride over to Israel, where they'll show their support for Hamas by fighting the Jews on their behalf.

Has anyone overtly posted something in actual support of the Palestinians? Or did they just point out that Israel is wrong as well?

I think both sides are bullheadedly wrong but hold Israel more accountable given the disproportionate nature of the violence and the history with settlements ect.

#23 | Posted by jpw at 2014-07-22 12:45 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Horse manure. It has to do with land and power, population and geopolitical proxies far more than religion.

Yawn. Sure corky.

Believe it or not, your sacred cow does deserve to be gored every once in a while.

#24 | Posted by jpw at 2014-07-22 12:47 AM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

I think both sides are bullheadedly wrong but hold Israel more accountable given the disproportionate nature of the violence

Their military capability is vastly superior. Off the charts superior. When battling with an enemy the objective is to inflict maximum damage and take minimal losses.

If the tables were turned all of the Jews in Israel would be dead. All of them.

They are far from blameless, but the could very easily wipe out the Palestinians if they chose to.

#25 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-07-22 12:51 AM | Reply | Flag:

But I don't see any discussion on the Palestinian side of what they can do better.... why is that?

Are there enough Palestinian media outlets to gain a sufficiently broad sampling of Palestinian views to trust that the population is as homogenous as you make it sound?

#26 | Posted by jpw at 2014-07-22 12:59 AM | Reply | Flag:

When battling with an enemy the objective is to inflict maximum damage and take minimal losses.

It's a bit more complicated than that.

If this were true, Israel would all out level Gaza from the air without even feigning concern for civilian casualties. It's not like it's particularly large or the people have many options of where to flee.

But they and you know they couldn't do that.

So they walk the fine line of feigning concern while showing enough disregard for it to piss off many but not enough to cause real diplomatic problems for themselves.

All out war of the type you describe might actually make the US, the bigger, badder kid on the block standing behind them, withdraw support.

If the tables were turned all of the Jews in Israel would be dead. All of them.

And the current situation helps this how?

Maybe it's a lost cause (probably?), and I'm certainly not saying Israel should remain inert in defending itself, but at a certain point the actions it undertakes appear antagonistic and counter-productive to ending the conflict. Of course, not being an Israeli, I assume ending the conflict is even a goal to begin with.

They are far from blameless, but the could very easily wipe out the Palestinians if they chose to.

And it's anything but altruism that keeps them from doing so.

They're maintaining a fine balance, IMO, between pummeling the Palestinians and maintaining enough international support to remain viable. They're dead if they stray too far to either of those sides.

#27 | Posted by jpw at 2014-07-22 01:12 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Guess whose future appearances on MSNBC have all been cancelled?

talkingpointsmemo.com

#28 | Posted by rcade at 2014-07-22 08:12 AM | Reply | Flag:

I' not ven commenting on wether she was right or wrong but,I didn't see her do anything that would warrant never having her back. Unless MSNBC is so sensitive that they can't be citicized. I watch a bit of their shows when I get home. Sharpton less and less just b/c he's so stupid. He can't rea the prompter half the time and he ask the same dumb questions b/c he can' conduct a back and forth interview b/c of the stupidity. Matthews is too into himself but, he will address screw ups by Obama from time to time. Hayes? He' awful. I'm sure he's smart guy but, he gets so worked up with his sniveling and hand gestures that it's like he's going to wet his pants. Maddow has never once that I've seen had opposing views on her show. When Obama is having bad news she covers obscure county elections that no one cares about.

#29 | Posted by Dalton at 2014-07-22 10:21 AM | Reply | Flag:

But I don't see any discussion on the Palestinian side of what they can do better.... why is that?

#15 | Posted by AndreaMackris

Isn't that the point of this article and of Rula Jebreal?

If our media was made up primarily of Palestinians we'd be sympathetic to the Palestinians, and Israel would be the pariah. The stories and politics would be propaganda always skewed to favor the Palestinians. But such a situation would never happen, because we diverse Americans would rightfully have no qualms questioning why a Palestinian media exists and why does it not represent American demographics.

Yet we say nothing about such a US media and even our US Supreme Court that is just as skewed from our nation's demographics.

#30 | Posted by Robson at 2014-07-23 07:56 AM | Reply | Flag:

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