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Juan Cole: There are such things as small terrorist groups that do a lot of harm and lack any significant social or political support. It may well be that such groups can be defeated by counter-terrorism operations. Other so-called terrorist groups are more organic, growing out of the profound suffering and grievances of a whole population. Such groups may deploy terror (attacks by non-state actors on non-combatants), but they aren't actually just terrorist groups. They are insurgencies. Only about 20% of insurgencies end by the decisive military defeat of the insurgents on the part of the government. Most are ended through a negotiated settlement.

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Oppression and occupation produce resistance. Until the oppression and the occupation are addressed, the mere inflicting of attrition on the military capabilities of the resistance will not snuff it out. Other leaders will take the place of those killed.

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Are you suggesting that Israel should not respond to all those rocket attacks? Are you asking Israel to commit suicide or just let the Islamists do whatever they want to? Jews did not resist in Europe and most of them were slaughtered. 15 million Jews were in Europe-now only a few hundred thousand. Terrorists in Gaza do not want peace. They have been rewarded for their terrorism so why should they give it up?

#1 | Posted by Donald at 2014-07-20 08:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

Who invaded who? Who struck first? Who has taken more and more land and water every year by brute force? Who has overwhelming firepower and uses it routinely? Oh my gosh, the Palestinians fought back, like the Indians. Blaming the Palestinians for defending their homes is cruel and moronic.

#2 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-07-20 09:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Who has taken more and more land and water every year by brute force?"

Israel left Gaza...... regarding water, you have proven you don't know anything about the Gaza water situation.

#3 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-07-20 10:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

"If Israel really wanted peace or relief from Hamas rockets, its leaders would pursue peace negotiations in good faith with Hamas (which has on more than one occasion reliably honored truces)." - Juan Cole

Today: IDF to hold fire in Gaza's Shejaia despite Hamas breaking humanitarian truce
www.jpost.com

What were saying Juan, I couldn't hear you over the rockets...?

#4 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-07-20 10:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

4days ago: Israel invades Gaza after Hamas rejects truce
www.newswest9.com

You were saying Juan?

#5 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-07-20 10:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

Cole: Why Counter-Terrorism in Gaza Will Fail

B.S. They will succeed... In making people lose their belief that Israel is merely defending itself.

#6 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2014-07-20 10:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

Jews did not resist in Europe and most of them were slaughtered.

You say that while expecting Palestinians not to resist as Israel keeps approving new settlements and taking their land.

#7 | Posted by rcade at 2014-07-20 10:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

There is no misunderstanding fascist imperial terrorism; and that is what the American empire is practicing in both.

The author is either a useful idiot or or tool.

#8 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-07-21 12:11 AM | Reply | Flag:

The author is either a useful idiot or or tool.

That's a clueless thing to say about Juan Cole, one of the sharpest liberal bloggers on the Middle East. Go to Truthdig ...

www.truthdig.com

... see that name at the top next to your hero Chris Hedges?

#12 | Posted by rcade at 2014-07-21 10:53 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

juan cole has been told he doesn't know what he is talking about for about twelve years now. going into the archives and doing a little research, i find he is one of the few that was absolutely certain that the invasion of iraq would create the situation it currently finds itself in.

#13 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-07-21 11:17 AM | Reply | Flag:

Counterterrorism is a defensive measure to protect it citizens from future harm.... to protect innocent citizens, be they Americans or Europeans or Russians or Asians or Israelis, from harm.

Just because the terrorists are relentless does not mean their targets should simply lie down and play dead --- or be dead if they don't respond.

We may see some humanitarian concerns when retaliating (meting out justice), but Israel has every right to respond in good measure.

#14 | Posted by takitez at 2014-07-21 01:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

hmmm... one side living productively, with people of other races/religions within their borders without beheading them... the other wastes money on tunnels, crude munitions, stealing from the populace, martyring their children... On top of revering a pedophiles memoirs, these rats wish death to everyone that isnt them. If you want a progressive one world society, better burn out the rats first.

#15 | Posted by monkeylogic42 at 2014-07-21 01:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

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