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Sunday, July 20, 2014

Thousands of people fled Gaza's eastern district of Shujayea as heavy bombardment from the Israeli army continued into the morning, with 439 Palestinians killed over the past 13 days, including at least 112 children, according to Gaza's health ministry. A Shujayea resident who reached a hospital told Al Jazeera: "It is a massacre taking place in Shujayea. It is a massacre with the full sense of the word, committed by Israel against innocent civilians, there are no armed men among us, the streets of Shujayea are packed with dead bodies."

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Israel says it is targeting military installations of Hamas and other armed groups. But the vast majority of those who have been killed and injured are Palestinian civilians, many of them children.

Mads Gilbert, a Norwegian doctor working at Gaza's al-Shifa hospital, told Al Jazeera that most of the casualties brought there were civilians who suffered shrapnel injuries and amputations.

"It's very disturbing to see the large number of civilians, particularly the children."

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But the Estes rockets that Hamas have been launching... They are a great inconvenience to the Israelis who have to endure the air raid sirens and sprint to shelter areas, interrupting their time at the local Starbucks or shopping trip to the mega retailer.

Those dirty muslims deserve to be mowed down like an over-grown lawn for such a travesty. Every last one of them.

#1 | Posted by apparatchik at 2014-07-20 04:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

I was going to take one hit and use a one word reply but instead lets just mention hamas and their KNOWN tactic of putting these people in danger.....by their policy AND because they're cowards.

and naturally the biased report, or at least, the part you put here says nothing of the rockets fired into Israel.

AND OF COURSE not one mention of the tunnel system where suicide bombers and other things can be moved into Israel..

and like the border invasion...it's always the children...well those children have parents who have put them in harm's way. There STILL is one way for this to end TODAY....stop firing the missiles...until that happens.....defend yourself Israel.

#2 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-07-20 04:34 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 3

by any means necessary..

#3 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-07-20 04:35 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

They're not even concealing their slow genocide at this point. Does anyone know if they were even able to blame someone for the deaths of those Israeli teens? Everything seems like an excuse to do some recreational killing. Starting to slaughter civilians one hour into a two hour truce sure sounds like a war trick.

The old talking points about Hamas actions can not begin to excuse slaughtering civilians and destroying homes.

#4 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2014-07-20 04:36 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

what a ridiculous remark post 1 is...you obviously have no clue as to the situation Israel is in. OR you just don't care ! I guess you would be happy with what...a good BOMB in a mall filled with jews ??? would that make you feel better >?

#5 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-07-20 04:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

lets just mention hamas and their KNOWN tactic of putting these people in danger.

Then there should have been some Hamas militants killed, right? Yet here we are, just civilians killed.

Take their actions as they happen and tell the story as it is: they are just taking another baby step toward wiping out the Palestinians.

#6 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2014-07-20 04:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

and like the border invasion...it's always the children...well those children have parents who have put them in harm's way. There STILL is one way for this to end TODAY....stop firing the missiles...until that happens.....defend yourself Israel.

Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-07-20 04:34 PM | Reply

Israel is the aggressors here. They've always been the aggressors when they started stealing Palestinian lands.

#7 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-07-20 04:40 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

I KNEW it was just a matter of time before some lib would begin to question and even doubt the MURDER of the Isreali teen. It was only a matter of time and here we are.
I guess any post now we're going to hear about the Hamas freedom fighters.....what garbage..

the hate Israel stink is strong....

#8 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-07-20 04:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

ONCE AND FOR ALL LARRY...

hamas STARTED this when they kidnapped and MURDERED the teenager..AND started the rockets after Israel paid them back JUSTIFYABLY so......stop listening to the israel bigots and pay attention.

#10 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-07-20 04:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

the hate Israel stink is strong....

LOL! Go take a shower.

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2014-07-20 04:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

#8 I resent your false and unsupported accusations. You should apologize for putting such hateful forth as my opinion. Seriously. [...]

#12 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2014-07-20 04:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

Israel is the aggressors here. They've always been the aggressors when they started stealing Palestinian lands.
#7 | POSTED BY LARRYMOHR

Israel agreed to a ceasefire... not that mean Israel can do whatever it wants, but it has one objective. Take out the tunnels and the missiles, then it will leave.

Israel gave Gaza back nine years ago.... if it wanted Genocide, and to push Palestinians in to the ocean, why would it do that? but evidence and data aren't in your arsenal of understanding the issue.

Hamas is an oppressive regime, the Palestinians (Arabs in occupied territories) are pawns in the Iranian vs Israel proxy war. Unfortunately they have duped you into defending, dropping political opponents from buildings, oppressing women, gays, and other religions.

Hamas uses actions like this because its good business for them, the more deaths they get the bigger martyrs they become.

Imagine the brain washing it must take to make a suicide bomber?

#13 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-07-20 04:48 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

#5 | POSTED BY AFKABL2

Why I'm bothering to acknowledge one who is so intellectually crippled, I'll never know; but here goes.

Forcing people to live in confined ghettos with sub-standard access to food and water, offering no suffrage or means for representation within any real government, or recourse for when crimes are committed against them...

Sounds similar to the reasons some traitorous terrorists used to dump tea in a harbor and take up arms against their oppressors a few hundred years ago.

And you wonder why they launch what feeble arms they have at whatever targets can be hit.

#14 | Posted by apparatchik at 2014-07-20 04:48 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 3

hamas STARTED this when they kidnapped and MURDERED the teenager

Normally, when a teenager is kidnapped and murdered, police investigate, find, and apprehend the criminal who committed the crime. I don't recall that ever being a justification to bomb the f--k out of a bunch of people that had nothing to do with the incident in question.

Just sayin'.

#15 | Posted by apparatchik at 2014-07-20 04:51 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 3

I don't recall that ever being a justification to bomb the f--k out of a bunch of people that had nothing to do with the incident in question.
Just sayin'.
#15 | POSTED BY APPARATCHIK

Yeah thats what happened..... *eyeroll*

#17 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-07-20 04:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-07-20 04:48 PM | Reply

[...] Israel has yet to return lands stolen by it to the Palestinians. They keep encroaching on Palestinian Lands. If Israel would stop encroaching into Palestinians and for God's sake tear down the wall. Israel doesn't want peace with that attitude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#19 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-07-20 04:57 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

Hamas uses actions like this because its good business for them, the more deaths they get the bigger martyrs they become.

Imagine the brain washing it must take to make a suicide bomber?

#13 | Posted by AndreaMackris at

you know good and well...even after your wise arse remark about me being kudzu....yeah bud I Saw it......

you know these people don't care about this fact...it's all emotion and anti israel....and they just DON"T CARE that rockets are raining on Isreal,.....that sort of thing isn't a HATE AMERICA< we're always at fault way to think

and alas must go....hasta...

#20 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-07-20 04:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

GOLLY GEE HECK DARN....just when it was getting GOOD !!!

hasta laredo...

#21 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-07-20 05:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

geesh,...how old are you ? 12 or 13 ??

You're the one claiming that the kidnapping and murdering of a teenager is reason enough to kill 439 people, and I'm the one that's "12 or 13"?

M'kay!

#22 | Posted by apparatchik at 2014-07-20 05:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

God you're propaganda is old...

Hamas is an oppressive regime, the Palestinians (Arabs in occupied territories) are pawns in the Iranian vs Israel proxy war.

You must be thinking of Hezbollah. But sure lets use old talking points and tie Iran into this.

Hamas is Palestine. The portion of the population that can no longer bend over for Israel.

Of course you don't get why Hamas would be tired of bending over. You'd prefer them all to be dead anyhow.

Unfortunately they have duped you into defending, dropping political opponents from buildings, oppressing women, gays, and other religions.

LOL!! More talking points. Hey, you got problems with oppressing women, gay, and other religions? Then you've got a problem with all of the middle east. and Israel itself isn't the most gay friendly country in the world. but. keep up with your talking points.

Hamas uses actions like this because its good business for them, the more deaths they get the bigger martyrs they become.

Business? Why don't you concentrate on sitting on your couch and stop trying to slander people trying to fight for their lives and freedom.

Imagine the brain washing it must take to make a suicide bomber?
#13 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS AT 2014-07-20 04:48 PM

Watching your father, mother, brother, sister, child... die sure has a way of "brain washing" someone into fighting their oppressors.

How dare they!

#23 | Posted by ClownShack at 2014-07-20 05:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

Normally, when a teenager is kidnapped and murdered, police investigate, find, and apprehend the criminal who committed the crime. I don't recall that ever being a justification to bomb the f--k out of a bunch of people that had nothing to do with the incident in question.

Just sayin'.

#15 | Posted by apparatchik a

okay let me ask you as politely as possible....do you really think that hamas was going to allow ISrael to come in and investigate who did this and then prosecute them...or perhaps turn them over to isreal, I feel like your comment here is not that realistic to the situation, but you might be right. I don't think Ive ever seen them do that though.

#24 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-07-20 05:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

do you really think that hamas was going to allow ISrael to come in and investigate who did this and then prosecute them

No.

So lets start a ground and air invasion and kill 439 people (and counting).

Sounds good to me.

#25 | Posted by apparatchik at 2014-07-20 05:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

Yeah thats what happened..... *eyeroll*
#17 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS AT 2014-07-20 04:54 PM | FLAG: Ignorant of present facts. remains confident that this is all Iran's fault.

You're right Andrea. Israel Isn't bombing the [...] out of Palestinian neighborhoods.

Thats what Hamas wanted... And its all Iran's fault... And brainwash...

Hey do you have to flip the tape over in order for it to keep repeating those talking points?

#26 | Posted by ClownShack at 2014-07-20 05:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

until that happens.....defend yourself Israel.

Amen.

Israel is the aggressors here. They've always been the aggressors when they started stealing Palestinian lands.

#7 | Posted by LarryMohr

So it's ok larry for Palestinians to kill Israelis, right larry? That's basically what you are saying. You are saying you are for the terrorists, right?

#27 | Posted by boaz at 2014-07-20 05:09 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Israel doesn't want peace with that attitude!!

It never has.

THe only people that think that are patriotic Israelis living in America.

#28 | Posted by ClownShack at 2014-07-20 05:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

Then there should have been some Hamas militants killed, right? Yet here we are, just civilians killed.

You actually believe what Hamas says? You truly think there are no militants killed? You are as stupid as you sound..

#29 | Posted by boaz at 2014-07-20 05:11 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

So it's ok larry for Palestinians to kill Israelis, right larry? That's basically what you are saying. You are saying you are for the terrorists, right?
#27 | POSTED BY BOAZ AT 2014-07-20 05:09 PM

Oh, does Boaz "kill every muslim" have an opinion?

I'm all f'n ears Boaz.

Kill every Muslims you say?

shocking!

#30 | Posted by ClownShack at 2014-07-20 05:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

So it's ok larry for Palestinians to kill Israelis, right larry? That's basically what you are saying. You are saying you are for the terrorists, right?

Posted by boaz at 2014-07-20 05:09 PM | Reply

If Israelis are encroaching onto lands not accorded to it that's trespassing. What do You advocate all the time for the Undocumented across the southern border?? Shooting them right Boaz. It seems to me it's no difference here.

#31 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-07-20 05:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

HAMAS has and Islamists in general have a long standing policy of putting their own people INTENTIONALLY in the firing line, to include children.

So long as they do that, all such casualties are the primary fault of which ever Islamist group is doing it at the time.

#32 | Posted by USAF242 at 2014-07-20 05:14 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

You actually believe what Hamas says? You truly think there are no militants killed?

No Boaz, we only listen to what the criminal Israeli government has to say.

You would of made a fine Nazi sympathist. [...]

#33 | Posted by ClownShack at 2014-07-20 05:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

HAMAS has and Islamists in general have a long standing policy of putting their own people INTENTIONALLY in the firing line, to include children.

That's a pretty convenient way for an aggressor nation to abdicate any responsibility for civilian casualties, no?

1. Kill a bunch of civilians (accidentally or purposefully, who cares) in a military operation
2. Say that the other side uses tactics that intentionally put said civilians in harms way
3. ???
4. See? Not our fault at all!

#34 | Posted by apparatchik at 2014-07-20 05:19 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

HAMAS has and Islamists in general have a long standing policy of putting their own people INTENTIONALLY in the firing line, to include children.
So long as they do that, all such casualties are the primary fault of which ever Islamist group is doing it at the time.
#32 | POSTED BY USAF242 AT 2014-07-20 05:14 PM

Why must conservatives lie all the f'n time?

That was Iran, with the Basij.

Hamas has a habit of going home at the end of the day.

Unfortunately for them, they have wives and kids and live in neighborhoods with children, and other people.

Israel should go find the supposed Hamas criminals and arrest them if needs be.

But they are cowards.

And prefer to level an entire block to kill one person.

Nothing anyone can say will dispute the fact that Israel has an option. They are choosing the cowards way of dealing with the situation. The fact that Israeli sympathists excuse their actions is pretty disgusting. Excusing the death of innocent people because "hamas was hiding behind them" is ridiculous. Israel has a military it regularly uses. they have options of how to deal with the criminals.

#35 | Posted by ClownShack at 2014-07-20 05:23 PM | Reply | Flag:

That's a pretty convenient way for an aggressor nation to abdicate any responsibility for civilian casualties, no?

It is utterly depraved reasoning which is contradicted every day by stories of the civilians killed. Yes, some militants are being targeted and killed. But the last number I saw put civilian deaths at 70% of the total. How many civilians who have nothing to do with Hamas militants have to die before enough is enough?

#36 | Posted by rcade at 2014-07-20 05:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

So it's ok larry for Palestinians to kill Israelis, right larry? That's basically what you are saying. You are saying you are for the terrorists, right?

#27 | Posted by boaz

You genuinely lack the ability to form coherent arguments, don't you?

#38 | Posted by jpw at 2014-07-20 05:37 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

You genuinely lack the ability to form coherent arguments, don't you?

Its for that reason I'd love to see a "Dunce" flag added to the list.

#39 | Posted by apparatchik at 2014-07-20 05:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

As in the past, any involvement by our Government only makes the situation worse. We nave spent-wasted tens of billions of dollars, and our meddling has been the cause of to many terrorist attacks on our citizens and soldiers here and abroad.

#40 | Posted by SammyAZ_RI at 2014-07-20 06:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

After reading the comments here, the only solution is to allow the pals to rain rockets into Israel unfettered. The Israelis will just have to "suck it up". Like we would if Mexico started rocketing us. And your mothers got blown up that live in Arizona. I see.

#41 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2014-07-20 06:50 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

If Israelis are encroaching onto lands not accorded to it that's trespassing.

What about them shooting rockets into Israel? Israel is being attacked Larry. If violence isn't the answer for the Jews, it shouldn't be for the muslims either...

#42 | Posted by boaz at 2014-07-20 06:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

What about them shooting rockets into Israel?

Israel already has an answer for that: Iron Dome. None of them are hitting.

"The Iron Dome defense system has protected Israeli citizens from hundreds of Hamas rocket assaults with virtually no injuries."

www.nydailynews.com

If all that was happening right now was Hamas firing rockets at Israel and all of them being stopped, Hamas would look weak and ineffective.

#43 | Posted by rcade at 2014-07-20 07:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

What about them shooting rockets into Israel? Israel is being attacked Larry. If violence isn't the answer for the Jews, it shouldn't be for the muslims either...

Posted by boaz at 2014-07-20 06:55 PM | Reply

You would advocate for the same if Mexico started encroaching into the United States. Hell I bet you would nuke Mexico if they did that.

#44 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-07-20 07:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

The Israeli Z-nazis are at it again, this time 75 years later on the nasty giving end. They will face retribution from world society just as did the German Nazis. What goes around always comes around, even for those who arrogantly think they own the propaganda message, and believe most of us (as did the Nazis) think most are mere unthinking schmucks.

#45 | Posted by Robson at 2014-07-20 07:07 PM | Reply | Flag:

After reading the comments here, the only solution is to allow the pals to rain rockets into Israel unfettered.

No. The answer is to give them statehood and help them build (or re-build), or make them Israeli citizens with the same rights and freedoms as everyone else in Israel. Then, the likes of Hamas and Hezbollah wont be the only alternative for these people to turn to.

In time, the Palestinians will flock to the political system that gives them the best day-to-day stability and the feeling that they have a voice in a meaningful democratic process.

To not do these things will serve to perpetuate the conflict indefinitely.

#46 | Posted by apparatchik at 2014-07-20 07:30 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

I was going to take one hit and.......

#2 | Posted by afkabl2

For God's sake, please lay off the pot smoking. You obviously cannot handle it.

#47 | Posted by coyote at 2014-07-20 07:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

Israel is the aggressors here. They've always been the aggressors when they started stealing Palestinian lands.
#7 | POSTED BY LARRYMOHR
Israel agreed to a ceasefire... not that mean Israel can do whatever it wants, but it has one objective. Take out the tunnels and the missiles, then it will leave.

Or maybe, just maybe they will further colonize Palestine, pass laws forbidding Palestinians right to return?

Israel gave Gaza back nine years ago.... if it wanted Genocide, and to push Palestinians in to the ocean, why would it do that? but evidence and data aren't in your arsenal of understanding the issue.
Hamas is an oppressive regime, the Palestinians (Arabs in occupied territories) are pawns in the Iranian vs Israel proxy war.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?! Does it have anything to do with Palestine missing from Zionist maps? That Palestinians don't "exist"?

Unfortunately they have duped you into defending, dropping political opponents from buildings, oppressing women, gays, and other religions.
Hamas uses actions like this because its good business for them, the more deaths they get the bigger martyrs they become.
Imagine the brain washing it must take to make a suicide bomber?
#13 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-07-20 04:48 PM

More than 50% of what are left of Palestinians are children who's parents have been murdered by Israeli. They are annexed from humanitarian aid, yet magically those barely missiles keep getting brought in by the hundreds. IDF shoot people fleeing tunnels, but can't seem to locate the source of those "missiles" - as if the Israeli are coordinating and supplying them directly into neighborhoods they wish to annex, bomb-out and then colonize.

#48 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2014-07-20 07:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

IDF shoot people fleeing tunnels, but can't seem to locate the source of those "missiles" - as if the Israeli are coordinating and supplying them directly into neighborhoods they wish to annex, bomb-out and then colonize.

That motive would not surprise me at all. No one is as shrewd in a self serving negative sense that have purposely sucked the USA and our well intentioned sheep into their lair of deceit, while they use our money and political corruption to kill others.

#49 | Posted by Robson at 2014-07-20 08:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

Israel and their media plays Americans as simpleton fools who they believe can't think beyond their latest false flag venture and the message from beholden pols..

I agree totally with #46 Apparachik.

#50 | Posted by Robson at 2014-07-20 08:15 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

I wonder which part of "EVACUATE" the innocent civilians in Gaza didn't understand. Regardless, the terrorist are getting exactly the photos of death and destruction they want for their sympathy campaign. I hope Israel finishes the job, they bulldozes the remains into the sea.

#51 | Posted by lel2007 at 2014-07-20 08:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

I wonder which part of "EVACUATE" the innocent civilians in Gaza didn't understand. Regardless, the terrorist are getting exactly the photos of death and destruction they want for their sympathy campaign. I hope Israel finishes the job, they bulldozes the remains into the sea.
#51 | Posted by lel2007 at 2014-07-20 08:26 PM

The proof is in the wanton murder of women and children. From what anyone can see the terrorists are still the Israeli. Their intention is the displacement of an entire people.

If Iron Dome works so bloody well, why is there any "need" to attack civilian centers causing mass death? The Zionists have a lengthy history of committing terrorism and blaming it on others, specifically entire Arab communities. It's their modus operandi: "WAR THROUGH DECEPTION".

#52 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2014-07-20 08:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

I wonder which part of "EVACUATE" the innocent civilians in Gaza didn't understand.

If they're innocent, why should they be required to evacuate?

#53 | Posted by rcade at 2014-07-20 09:07 PM | Reply | Flag:

If they're innocent, why should they be required to evacuate?

Anyone who evacuates, is a terrorist.

Anyone who doesn't evacuate, is a well disciplined terrorist.

www.youtube.com

#54 | Posted by jpw at 2014-07-20 09:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

I wonder which part of "EVACUATE" the innocent civilians in Gaza didn't understand.

A free people do not evacuate their homes and communities at the threat of violence.

If a Mexican drug gang made such a demand on you and your community, some might leave who can't fight or to protect their family. I'm betting many others would lock-n-load.

#55 | Posted by apparatchik at 2014-07-20 10:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

Most every USA news media personality, from the renowned Dorothy Thompson in the 40s to this latest CNN newscaster Diana Magnay who was purged for not reporting the company line, once they understand the issues and local people and the victims of Israeli genocide, inevitably find themselves outraged by the brutality and actions of the Israelis.

#56 | Posted by Robson at 2014-07-20 11:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

Hamas told Israelis to evacuate before firing thier rockets. Why didn't the Israelis evacuate?

#57 | Posted by bored at 2014-07-22 03:30 AM | Reply | Flag:

wonder which part of "EVACUATE" the innocent civilians in Gaza didn't understand. Regardless, the terrorist are getting exactly the photos of death and destruction they want for their sympathy campaign. I hope Israel finishes the job, they bulldozes the remains into the sea.

#51 | POSTED BY LEL2007 AT 2014-07-20 08:26 PM | FLAG:

Evacuate to where? Into the sea? People keep harping this but have yet to explain where people in a literal prison camp, should evacuate to when told?

Israel fully knows they have nowhere to go and they don't care. They'll level the whole place, say that they saw rockets on every single target and later bulldoze to put up more settlements.

It's not going to stop until they are all on literal Indian reservations and then the rhetoric will whats done is done and we need to move on.

#58 | Posted by daniel_3 at 2014-07-22 01:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

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