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Tuesday, July 15, 2014

The World Trade Organisation (WTO) has found the United States violated global trade rules when it imposed tariffs on products from China and India. In response to a 2012 complaint, the WTO said the US improperly imposed tariffs on Chinese steel and solar panels. The U.S. -- which has argued it imposed the tariffs to combat artificially low prices on products from India and China's state-subsidized industries -- has the right to appeal the ruling.

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Why solar panels? Are there tariffs on iThings?

#1 | Posted by REDIAL at 2014-07-15 12:54 AM | Reply | Flag:

We should pull out of the WTO. Why would we follow any rules when dealing with countries like China who don't follow the rules? The only possible answer is that we're suckers.

#2 | Posted by Sully at 2014-07-15 09:14 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

Get out of the WTO!

#3 | Posted by danni at 2014-07-15 10:22 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

"Why would we follow any rules when dealing with countries like China who don't follow the rules?" - Sully

What rules are we talking about? So long as they aren't using prison labor, they are following the rules of the WTO. But its more complicated than just "rules"....

Why solar panels?
#1 | POSTED BY REDIAL

Because we are trying to develop our own solar industry, Solyndra fell apart to some extent because of low cost Chinese PV panels, and some not so ethical activities.

Solyndra has filed suit...
www.forbes.com

This is more complicated than a simple headline.

#4 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-07-15 01:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Get out of the WTO!"

Since Bill Clinton got the U.S. into the WTO, I wouldn't expect Hillary to get it out.

#5 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-07-15 01:46 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

I often wonder why environmentalist want to get out of the WTO.

Its probably the best way to enforce/impose rules the other countries might not care about, which is sort of the liberal way.

As Nulli iterates the obvious, I will repeat it, don't expect Hillary to pull out anytime soon.

#6 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-07-15 01:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

I've got mixed feeling on the WTO.

In its current form, I'd be inclined to get out of it, but something like it that would NOT be a tool for China practice 'dumping' would have value.

As much as I like free markets, people need jobs. Having said that, a government controlled economy is proven recipe for economic disaster, so I lean away from government, but I don't lean away absolutely.

#7 | Posted by USAF242 at 2014-07-15 01:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

"What rules are we talking about? So long as they aren't using prison labor, they are following the rules of the WTO. But its more complicated than just "rules"...."

China openly counterfeits goods from all around the world. Their government is complicite. Its not just a trade violation, its criminal. Not to mention the Chinese arts of bid rigging and currency manipulation.

I generally don't like entering into any agreements that supercede our sovereignty anyway (because I am more conservative than 99% of GOP frauds). But that we'd be a party to any agreement or organization where China can complain about tariffs as they openly steal from us and others is absurd.

#8 | Posted by Sully at 2014-07-15 02:00 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 3

We should not be in WTO, UN, and myraid of other international agreements that bind America; such as the IMF, world bank, NAFTA, TPP, and NATO

How can we as individuals have true liberty if our own government does not?

#9 | Posted by danv at 2014-07-15 02:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

If true, then a far bigger deal is tires, pricing of which has gone through the roof, because of import restrictions.

#10 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-07-15 03:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

Funny how conservative prefer we bow to the WTO.

We should respond by doubling tariffs.

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2014-07-15 04:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

The WTO supports slave labor.

#12 | Posted by TwoCents at 2014-07-15 04:46 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

The WTO can go pound sand.

#13 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2014-07-15 05:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

Funny how conservative prefer we bow to the WTO.

We should respond by doubling tariffs.

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2014-07-15 04:11 PM | Reply | Flag

Might correct that to republicans/democrats not conservatives, true conservatives know better.

#14 | Posted by danv at 2014-07-15 07:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

What a great way to start ww3. Then we can suspend the election in 2016.

#15 | Posted by mutant at 2014-07-15 08:47 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 2

Mutant makes a good point, even as I rail against the WTO trade interdependence is the best way to avoid future conflicts. I wonder if folks like the Clintons who have helped engineer the current economic hardships for Americans didn't do so knowing that it was either include the Chinese (and other nations) in our prosperity or face eternal cold war and the real possibility of not so cold war. Avoiding world war might make economic hardship seem like a reasonable price to pay.

#16 | Posted by danni at 2014-07-15 08:57 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

The USA consumer market represented the crown jewels in the negotiations on open trade, and our government gave them away. We should have dictated the rules of free and balanced trade, and we probably would have, had not the Wall St money changers dictated the rules to our government.

Most of the USA trade reps represent the same ethnic demographics as the bankster Fed Reserve, and the US Treasury. It is outrageous and odd how the USA people representing the 99% got sold out by the 1%.

#17 | Posted by Robson at 2014-07-15 10:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

#14...Conservatives see national sovereignty and respect for the Constitution as representing the highest priority. Many conservatives were hoodwinked into believing that the corporate owned GOP represented conservative beliefs. The media has spent years attempting to marginalize conservative beliefs represented by the TP because they are the corporate and bankster media. The Clinton Democratic Party and Third Way and DLC are a mirror image of the GOP.

www.salon.com

#18 | Posted by Robson at 2014-07-15 10:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

Not really a big story. Europe for the last two years has imposed tariffs on Chinese solar panels, as the Chinese have been dumping them, very much like the way they dump clothing on us. In China now, clothing prices are significantly higher than in the US, and I'm talking about the same type of clothing we see in Walmart-mostly made in China. What a shame that the Walton pigs have fattened themselves with cheap clothing at both our expense and at China's.

#19 | Posted by e1g1 at 2014-07-15 11:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

What a shame that the Walton pigs have fattened themselves with cheap clothing at both our expense and at China's.

Posted by e1g1

Get an old pickup truck and start your own stores...he did.

#20 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2014-07-15 11:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

You can thank one of the worse Prez we ever had.
Thanks Bill

#21 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2014-07-16 12:28 AM | Reply | Flag:

Mutant makes a good point, even as I rail against the WTO trade interdependence is the best way to avoid future conflicts.

#16 | POSTED BY DANNI AT 2014-07-15 08:57 PM | REPLY | FLAG

Danni the libertarian, channeling Michael Shermer, suggesting international trade as a mechanism to reduce violent conflict?

I just had to look outside to make sure the sky wasn't falling.

#22 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2014-07-16 08:11 AM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 2

Get an old pickup truck and start your own stores...he did.

#20 | Posted by Greatamerican

You've got to be pretty delusional to believe it can still be done.

#23 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2014-07-16 12:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

Pat Buchanan hit the nail on the head. According to establishment elites, Dems and Repubs his politics be damned, but he always puts the USA people first, which is more than those like Clinton, Bob Casey and Obama and others do.dailycaller.com

#24 | Posted by Robson at 2014-07-16 07:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

What a great way to start ww3. Then we can suspend the election in 2016.

#15 | Posted by mutant at 2014-07-15 08:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

Call me crazy but I have a hunch. WW3 will be a war for water.

#25 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-07-16 11:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

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