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Tuesday, July 15, 2014

An Egypt-backed cease-fire between Israel and Hamas fell apart Tuesday as rocket attacks from Gaza were answered by Israeli airstrikes once again. The rocket attacks from Hamas militants in Gaza never ceased, Israeli officials said. For its part, Israel refrained from airstrikes for about six hours before announcing it was resuming the attacks. The Israel Defense Forces said 47 rockets were fired into Israel during the cease-fire period, which Hamas never accepted.

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There was no cease fire, and neither side wants one.

Israel knows that the days of being able to do this #$%^ without worldwide repercussions are almost over(oil running out, and people are getting tired supporting this fascist apartheid state).

And Hamas can't give up because they know that if they do then they will continue to be quietly murdered out of existence in the same manner that Hitler did to Jews and gypsies.

Genocide is historically the human norm, but don't try and pretty up fascist imperialism with one bull#$%^ marketing ploy after another. It is insulting.

#1 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-07-15 04:46 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Shawn get a clue - this isn't even close to a genocide. Are there a lot of civilian deaths? Yes and it is a terrible thing. But the cowards that attack Israel do so and then run and hide in their own people. They build the rockets and stores in the middle of civilians. Why? So it makes Israel look as bad as possible when they destroy the military targets.

Do I fully agree with the Israeli position and methods? No. I disagree with a LOT that they are doing BUT this is no genocide either. Hamas' declared goal is essentially genocide of Jews. The Hamas charter calls for the destruction of the Jewish state (uniting all Palestine under Islam) but does allow for the coexistence of Muslims, Jews and Christians - under Islamic rule. Well, we know what it means for other religions under fundamentalist Islamic rule.

Your comments on the Israeli's "murdering them out of existence" are pure and utter BS. Until the Palestinians take a non-militaristic stand against Israel this will continue. Until they tell those employing terror and hiding in their midst we do not accept this - it will continue. The Palestinians are NOT in a position of strength. They need to realize that and find a method of combating Israel that does NOT rely on armed conflict. IF Israel so desired they have more than enough firepower to unleash that a true genocide could be reality in an instant. Again this drawn out --- for tat conflict is not genocide.

The UN and West created this debacle when they created the state of Israel. The Israelis understand what it means to under go a TRUE genocide. Why do you think the use they answer aggression with aggression? If Hamas wasn't shooting rockets into Israel - would there be air strikes? No. Is the way the that Israel is treating the West bank correct? No; however it is being run by a declared enemy of the Israeli state.

Should Israel allow new settlements to be built? No. Should they find a way to get to a peace that works for all the people of the region? Yes - but there is not enough will power behind that in Israel at this time. The Hamas attacks only serve to put it further out of reach.

#2 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2014-07-15 05:29 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 3

I meant to ask if the Way Israel is treating the West Bank and Gaza correct...

#3 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2014-07-15 05:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

Oh great more power points.

You haven't made one argument that contradicts what I've said above.

You are obfuscating.

#4 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-07-15 05:58 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Shawn, don't be a buffoon. Hamas is neither a logical nor reasonable response to Israel. Hamas is all that is worst about Israel amplified many times over.

#5 | Posted by moder8 at 2014-07-15 06:03 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 3

Should Israel allow new settlements to be built? No. Should they find a way to get to a peace that works for all the people of the region? Yes - but there is not enough will power behind that in Israel at this time. The Hamas attacks only serve to put it further out of reach.

#2 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2014-

they had a perfect chance for peace...israel gave in on just about everything...and ARAFAT said...no...

was it carter or clinton who brokered that deal......

and they bring in hamas....people who still can't figure out running water basically......so I guess it's no wonder they still think arafat was actually on their side instead of stealing money !!!

#6 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-07-15 06:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

I did kind of like what Pj what's her name said on ImUS this morning...

just another case...some event happens......and let's not forget HAMAS STARTED THIS with the KIDNAPPING...........israel responds...hamas fires rockets..EVERY ONE bad mouths israel in media...and it finally ends only to start up again at a later date...

so.....what's the answer ?

#7 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-07-15 06:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

Ad hominum is not an argument. Make a real one or blow away windbag.

#8 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-07-15 06:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

oh wow....great reply.....come back when you can make a contribution....

"WHAT"S the answer ?

#9 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-07-15 06:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

Hamas is neither a logical nor reasonable response to Israel. Hamas is all that is worst about Israel amplified many times over.

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And the Cherokee were terrorists too.

You haven't said a d#$% thing that contradicts my above statement.

More obfuscations.

#10 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-07-15 06:17 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Really? I thought what you said was pretty obfuscated to begin with.

What did you say? You stated some opinions but didn't back them at all.

Israel held back as Hamas continued to pound them - so you are right there was no ceasefire. It was a one sided attempt at it.

Israel apparently would like one as they ceased attacking while getting hit with at least 47 mostly ineffective rockets. So it isn't that BOTH sides want this. They know each other so well at this point Israel knows Hamas isn't ready to stop so they will continue to destroy everything as punishment of the Palestinian people. That isn't right in my book - but the Palestinians know it is coming and they allow it anyhow.

So the ludicrous comment about being "murdered out of existence" and genocide is based on what exactly? Are You saying Israelis are actively seeking out Palestinians to murder just and have been doing so because they are Palestinians and they plan to keep doing this just because they are Palestinian until none exist and that the actions of Hamas are somehow preventing this????? I mean correct me if I am wrong but wasn't it the murder of 3 teens by Hamas that triggered the start of this current conflict? Weren't the Israelis who reacted by killing a Palestinian teen caught and jailed by Israeli police? What happened to the Hamas members who killed the Israelis? Palestinian police catch them?

So what's the marketing ploy? Never understood that the whole comment is obfuse. Is the "marketing ploy" that Israel made an 'attempt' at stopping the violence while Hamas kept right on going? I guess I see it a bit like what is going on in the Ukraine. Unilateral Ceasefire? Well if the enemy keeps attacking you it's not much of a ceasefire... To ---- with it - pound them into the ground.

#11 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2014-07-15 06:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

#6 | Posted by afkabl2

There have been many attempts at this I know. The last was in 96 I believe. I know he was a crooked SO_. Problem is the rise of Hamas was going on - they don't want peace with the Israelis.

#12 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2014-07-15 06:22 PM | Reply | Flag:

#11 It is you who is obfuscating. You have no argument.

#13 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-07-15 06:25 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 2

Israel is a tiny little Country of 8,000 sq miles or so. The Arab World is huge compared to it at almost five million square miles. Still the goal of the Arab World is to wipe Israel off the face of the earth.

Can you blame them for defending themselves ?

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org

#14 | Posted by sames1 at 2014-07-15 06:25 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

#10 | Posted by Shawn

There is no comparison between the Cherokee and Hamas.

#15 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2014-07-15 06:34 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

#11 It is you who is obfuscating. You have no argument.

#13 | Posted by Shawn

I will agree I have no argument as you never made one to back your bold statements...

#16 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2014-07-15 06:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

Israel is a tiny little Country of 8,000 sq miles or so. The Arab World is huge compared to it at almost five million square miles. Still the goal of the Arab World is to wipe Israel off the face of the earth.

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And the Cherokee were terrorists too.

#17 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-07-15 07:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

Israel does not want peace. Never has. It wants all the land and water its fundamentalists elements consider to be their birthright. Jewish Fundamentalists run the Israeli Defense and State Department as surely as an Oligarchy behind a curtain run this country.

#18 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-07-15 07:29 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Stop giving the state of Israel billions, and the apartheid will have to end or it's economy goes bust.

Stop vetoing UN resolutions and Israel would have to stop doing this stuff or face sanctions.

There is nothing complicated about it.

#19 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-07-15 07:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

Israel does not want peace. Never has. It wants all the land and water its fundamentalists elements consider to be their birthright. Jewish Fundamentalists run the Israeli Defense and State Department as surely as an Oligarchy behind a curtain run this country.
#18 | POSTED BY NUTCASE

Its pretty clear you have never been to Israel or even have a basic idea of how the Israeli government is run. You don't know the difference between "fundamentalist" and "zionist".

Orthodox Jews are against Zionism, nitwit. One day when you pull your head out of your monitor, and actually visit Israel many of your preconceptions, and confirmation bias will disappear.

#20 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-07-15 07:41 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

Where do the Palestinians get most of their money: Jews in Israel.

There are MANY Jews sick of this fascist sh#$.

#21 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-07-15 07:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

I realize it is possible to oppose the actions of the Israeli government against the Palestinian people without being a jew hater. It's just that so many times a poorly articulated argument against Israel does end up sounding like some jew hater just trying to rationalize the hatred.

#22 | Posted by moder8 at 2014-07-15 08:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

Shawn, don't be a buffoon. Hamas is neither a logical nor reasonable response to Israel. Hamas is all that is worst about Israel amplified many times over.

Posted by moder8 at 2014-07-15 06:03 PM | Reply

Another Dubya "gift"

#23 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-07-15 10:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

Nice to know that we liberated Jews from Germany with the blood of thousands of our sons only to have their efforts held in disdain by liberals.

I guess we don't have a Muslim sympathizer in the White House for nothing.

#24 | Posted by sames1 at 2014-07-16 09:55 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

I don't believe the Knesset ever voted for a cease fire.

This was a publicity stunt that will backfire.

Israel has also resorted to destroying religious sites.

The UN will declare them an apartheid state once this incursion is over.

#25 | Posted by Prolix247 at 2014-07-16 12:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

Prolix your hatred and distrust of Israel is well documented on this site. We get it. Israel = Bad in your mind and that is where all analysis ends.

#26 | Posted by moder8 at 2014-07-16 12:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

I don't believe the Knesset ever voted for a cease fire.

#25 | Posted by Prolix247 at 2014-07-16 12:05 PM

They did. And they ceased. Hamas didn't. Pretty simple.

#27 | Posted by Yodar013 at 2014-07-16 03:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

Mod - hatred no, distrust yes. I liked my time in Israel and met many, many good people there. The government does not work for all the people.

It is time to let go of the conflict and work on Eretz Israel for the benefit of it's people.

#28 | Posted by Prolix247 at 2014-07-16 04:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

They rejected a truce... that means war... war means demolish the enemy. Hope something can be learned in the process.

#29 | Posted by monkeylogic42 at 2014-07-16 11:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

They rejected a truce... that means war... war means demolish the enemy. Hope something can be learned in the process.

Posted by monkeylogic42 at 2014-07-16 11:46 PM | Reply

You're dreaming.

#30 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-07-16 11:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

So it goes.

#31 | Posted by Yodar013 at 2014-07-17 10:07 AM | Reply | Flag:

Surprise!! 20 rockets found in palestinian u.n.-run school... these people have proven to be untrustworthy with everything given to them. Some cultures need to end because they cant progress beyond their barbarism.

#32 | Posted by monkeylogic42 at 2014-07-17 01:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

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