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Monday, July 14, 2014

A 51-year-old white man in Daytona Beach, Florida, has been arrested after allegedly jabbing several black kids with his finger and telling them, "[Expletive], you need to wash your skin off. This skin is better than yours because it's white." He allegedly also told the children he was going to have his dog eat them. Ronald C. White, 51, was charged with two counts of child abuse without great harm.

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Why no siren?

#1 | Posted by tontonmacoute at 2014-07-14 01:48 PM | Reply | Flag:

Are we sure the kids hadn't been rolling around in the mud?

Could explain a lot.

#2 | Posted by ClownShack at 2014-07-14 01:57 PM | Reply | Flag:

"There appears to be a certain racial component to his behavior, just like what me and Barry get all the time."

---Place Holder

#3 | Posted by cookfish at 2014-07-14 02:09 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

He's definitely a jerk, but to get the cops involved? No wonder cops have such a low opinion of regular folks. Welcome to the Nanny Police State.

#4 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2014-07-14 03:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

He's definitely a jerk, but to get the cops involved? No wonder cops have such a low opinion of regular folks. Welcome to the Nanny Police State.

#4 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2014-07-14 03:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

Huh? The article says he made physical contact with the children in addition to threatening them. That would be a crime if he had done it to an adult.

Any cop who would resent having to act in this situation has no business being a cop.

The parents aren't legally allowed to retalliate in the fashion this guy deserved so of course the cops need to be involved.

#5 | Posted by Sully at 2014-07-14 03:14 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

This story doesn't make sense to me.

#6 | Posted by Tor at 2014-07-14 03:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

He's definitely a jerk, but to get the cops involved?

After all, Florida is a stand your ground state. One of the parents should have snuck up on him, claimed hre threw a punch and then Zimmerman'd him.

He should spend a couple of weeks in prison. Getting poked by fingers will be the least of his problems.

#7 | Posted by northguy3 at 2014-07-14 03:41 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

[PARROT] SQuawwwk "RACIST" Squawwwk

#8 | Posted by cmbell73 at 2014-07-14 03:44 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

#8

What would you call him?

#9 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2014-07-14 03:55 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Ron White?!? Don't you mean 'Tater Salad'? In this case, the name fits what's on his shirt and in his head...

#10 | Posted by catdog at 2014-07-14 04:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

It takes a special breed of jerk to go after 10 year old little girls.

#11 | Posted by SammyAZ_RI at 2014-07-14 04:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

Does Ron White understand that the girls can't wash the color off even if they wanted to?

Where were they when this happened? the article just mentions the address the cops responded to.

it sounds like he doesn't like black people so why were they in the same place? either his house or theirs?

#12 | Posted by eberly at 2014-07-14 04:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

Has the front page become a page for the most trivial of matters?

I am under the impression its on the front page to make a point about the world and how "racist" it is.

But the fact you need to dig around on the Dayton Journal to find such extreme "racism" tells me its not very prevalent.

The parents aren't legally allowed to retalliate in the fashion this guy deserved so of course the cops need to be involved.

#5 | POSTED BY SULLY

Why "retaliate"? Why not just don't go near the guy and stay off his lawn... Crazy is as crazy does.....

People touch people all the time in anger et al, no need to get the police involved every time.

Heck children are dying on the RioGrande and the President doesn't even care.....

#13 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-07-14 04:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

Well it seems he can't even center his attempt at a fancy goatee so what do you expect?

#14 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2014-07-14 05:00 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

[PARROT] SQuawwwk "RACIST" Squawwwk

#8 | POSTED BY CMBELL73 AT 2014-07-14 03:44 PM | FLAG:

#8
What would you call him?

#9 | POSTED BY WHATSLEFT AT 2014-07-14 03:55 PM | FLAG:

A real 'Murican hero.

#15 | Posted by 726 at 2014-07-14 06:09 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

Ron White? Isn't he that blue collar comedian that drinks a lot and smokes a big fat cigar? He finally went off the deep end?

"Child abuse without great harm."

Something is just not right about that statement.

#16 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-07-14 07:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

I don't believe this bs racist stuff. Nor do I believe that the absurd actions of one person need to to be published as if it represents how society at large thinks.

There is an element of our society in the bankster community that collectively are most vile and destructive to average citizens due to greed and chicanery, but they never are exposed for what they are or do.

Instead the media searches the dregs for some low life weirdo that they can claim represents society.

#17 | Posted by Robson at 2014-07-14 09:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

Instead the media searches the dregs for some low life weirdo that they can claim represents society.

You're the only one making that claim. It's a news story about a weird racist finger poker. The newspaper didn't claim he was representative of anything.

#18 | Posted by rcade at 2014-07-14 09:42 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Another teahadist, go figure!

#19 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2014-07-14 11:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Why "retaliate"? Why not just don't go near the guy and stay off his lawn... Crazy is as crazy does....."

Because normal people have a healthy urge to retaliate when someone physically assaults their children. Its not crazy at all. Only a wackadoo would suggest that allowing someone to physically assult your child is "sane".

"People touch people all the time in anger et al, no need to get the police involved every time."

We're talking about an adult attacking children. Someone who does that is out of his mind and clearly dangerous. Suggesting that this man be allowed to continue doing this is way far out there. Its not everyone else who is crazy.

"Heck children are dying on the RioGrande and the President doesn't even care....."

Whew, I thought you were going crazy but the inclusion of this random, unrelated comment convinced me otherwise.... Oh wait...

#20 | Posted by sully at 2014-07-15 09:41 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

#8 | Posted by cmbell73
"[PARROT] SQuawwwk "RACIST" Squawwwk"

Why is there no "Ironic" flag?

#21 | Posted by TheTom at 2014-07-15 09:56 AM | Reply | Flag:

This guy only lives less than 5 miles from me. I think I might have to pay him a visit with some of my buddies in BACA when he gets out.

#22 | Posted by moomanfl at 2014-07-15 10:05 AM | Reply | Flag:

#17 | Posted by Robson
"I don't believe this bs racist stuff."

Meaning, you don't believe it actually happened?

"Nor do I believe that the absurd actions of one person need to to be published as if it represents how society at large thinks."

Well, good for you. "As if it represents..."? Nobody's saying that.

"There is an element of our society in the bankster community that collectively are most vile and destructive to average citizens due to greed and chicanery, but they never are exposed for what they are or do."

You got that right, but how it this relevant to the story?
Could you please provide a list of all "suitable" topics?

"Instead the media searches the dregs for some low life weirdo that they can claim represents society."

Robson, it happened in Daytona Beach, and was published in the local Daytona Beach paper. It's not "searching the dregs".

Do you really not see what makes the story newsworthy?
A. He approached the children.
B. He poked the children.
C. He said what he said to the children.

Do you think the paper should have thought, "We better not publish this story, because some people might think we're trying to make it look like it represents society"???

It's news. Deal with it.

#23 | Posted by TheTom at 2014-07-15 10:32 AM | Reply | Flag:

Ok... my #22 comment was made immediately after reading the article. I don't subscribe to the Daytona News Urinal so I only saw this story once it was listed here. After reading all the comments here I have this to say:

I actually see points on both sides.

1) If the accounts of events given in the article are accurate, and they well could be even if they aren't complete, then it was definitely racist. That alone doesn't warrant a police call.

2) If the man was screaming at young kids, making physical contact, AND saying these vile things to them then the police being called was more than warranted. Personally, if I had witnessed this happening I would have dropped him like a sack of potatoes and THEN called the cops. I know most of them in the Greater Daytona area and know for sure they wouldn't have done a thing to me for it. His actions were enough to suggest that he was a danger to the children and once physical contact was made it would have just been seen as defense of the defenseless.

3) There is no was this story is worthy of front page Retort news. By placing it on the front page you have elevated it to the importance of the most important national and world news stories of the day. The common journalism meme is "if it bleeds, it leads". No blood was shed. No physical injury. The man was arrested without incident. While it might be a big deal in Daytona for a day, it will even been forgotten here by tonight. The only reason for putting on the front page of the Retort with the biggest news stories is if something about it is of major significance. That there was a racist that did something racist, that acted threateningly and got arrested is VERY small potatoes. The question is, what was so big about this story of one pathetic racist that made it so important to be on the front page UNLESS a bigger point is being inferred by the person that placed it here?

#24 | Posted by moomanfl at 2014-07-15 11:00 AM | Reply | Flag:

Incidentally, this guy has a hell of a list of booking in the county lockup.

volusiamug.vcgov.org

#25 | Posted by moomanfl at 2014-07-15 11:05 AM | Reply | Flag:

He had a $2000 bond and made bail. Was released at 6:51pm on Saturday night. His list of past criminal cases in the area are long. Through the 90's it was mostly bad checks and several episodes of driving on a suspended license. Starting in 2004 things started to get ugly with battery, harassing phone calls, sale and possession of drugs (Schedule II which knowing this area, his violence, and seeing how he looks it is probably meth). I really hope he gets some time for this latest set of charges. He is a nasty character that needs to be giving a good timeout from the rest of society.

#26 | Posted by moomanfl at 2014-07-15 11:22 AM | Reply | Flag:

I'm sure the Reverands will be down in Daytona soon. Jesse and Al always focusing on the big issues of the day. Unprecedented violence in Chicago? Not a big deal. Record levels of unemployment in the community? Ah...whatever. Somebody insulting young black kids? Let's call in the troops.

#27 | Posted by CaseyJones at 2014-07-15 01:57 PM | Reply | Flag:

I don't care what color the kids are. They don't deserve crap like that. I understand you aren't necessarily saying they do. I am going to assume that you are just writing satire on Sharpton and Jackson. They (Sharpton and Jackson) indeed deserve ridicule for their cynical opportunism but I am not comfortable in using a situation in which kids were harassed, assaulted, and insulted as a political football or conveyance for a punchline.

#28 | Posted by moomanfl at 2014-07-15 02:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

#28 | Posted by moomanfl at 2014-07-15 02:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

He was just being ----. Notice the use of "insulting" to describe what happened when the kids were actually assaulted.

#29 | Posted by Sully at 2014-07-15 02:52 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

#24 | Posted by moomanfl
"There is no way this story is worthy of front page Retort news."

I agree with that, but I'm not sure what metric Rcade uses to determine front or back page.
True, it's hardly of national import, but then many stories here aren't, and plenty of back page stories are far more important, or commented on more than some front page stories.
But, since Rcade is the original poster, I suppose he can put it where he wants.

#30 | Posted by TheTom at 2014-07-15 03:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

This is called incitement news, and the media are experts at finding and reporting it. They focus on bad, weird, racist things that a few so called "white" majority people do, while always overlooking the ethnic and racial and political details when the crime or actions are perpetrated by some other element in society. Surely this dude was a member of the Tea Party too.

#31 | Posted by Robson at 2014-07-15 05:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

#8 | Posted by cmbell73

What the hell is wrong with you?

#32 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2014-07-16 12:42 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

#31 | Posted by Robson at 2014-07-15 05:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

You sound exactly like people who screech about racism when stories about the "knockout game" are published.

#33 | Posted by Sully at 2014-07-16 09:23 AM | Reply | Flag:

So what is racism anyway? I've read that chimps and humans have 98% similar DNA. Maybe the difference is not the *hardware* as much as the *operating system* installed. Humans have a geographically specific operating system pre-installed. This system runs in the significant portion of the individual, that is, the Genome. The Genome controls us via the subconscious, both as individuals and as larger geographically specific groups, which I like to think of as the 'collective unconscious' of Jung. Our Ego, the 'us' we all know, is simply an application running in the prefrontal cortex of our current platform. The Genome is the significant immortal portion of our being; it changes physical manifestations as required by environmental conditions. The Genome wears us like a set of pants, changing us out each generation. Eventually, our physical characteristics will be quite different from what we know today. Until about twenty generations past, our Genomes were still geographically distinct. The Genomes developed strategies for survival, as well as optimizing their geographically distinct biological platform as required. Racism is the dissimilar Genomes -dissimilar in a software sense -bristling at each other. The Genomic strategies, as developed geographically, are socially incompatible at this stage, removed by only twenty generations from complete geographical specificity. One Genome, for example, may have developed a strategy of having fewer offspring and raising them with both parents, while another Genome may have decided to breed more prolifically, and leave the young with one parent while the other attempts to thwart competition. As time passes, we will see more overlapping physical and behavioral characteristics, and our physical incompatibilities will lessen. I only hope we don't have to eat bat soup again before the dust settles...

#34 | Posted by FlyUntied at 2014-07-16 09:29 AM | Reply | Flag:

The Indo-European Genome is probably younger than the African Genome, as evidenced by it's greater number of recessive genes, and supported by the mitochondrial DNA evidence suggesting that the Indo-European has in fact derived from the African Genome. To this I attribute the progressive dissolution of the two-parent system; the inertia of the venerable African Genome, which has made up its mind about strategy long before the Indo-European Genome began to experiment with two parents. The Indo-European Genome has as well been subjected to modification by financial interests, the females being encouraged to delegate their home occupations in favor of greater economic output; that is, the financial interests are harvesting the energy of the Indo-European females. We see the one-parent model now prevails; the flexibility of the younger Genome may be the reason. For better or worse, that is the way it shakes out for the bulk of humanity. If someone wants to have a two-parent family, and the type of society that comes with it, they must have the vision and determination to make it happen, they will auto-modify their Genome over time, either way they *decide*. Our duty as individuals is to run one update cycle on our Genomic operating system. We can go in either direction.

#35 | Posted by FlyUntied at 2014-07-16 10:15 AM | Reply | Flag:

I just figured out what the Indo-European Genome was trying to do. Instead of having discrete bodies, individuals in a society, it was building a super-body unit for itself, with a man for a head and a woman for a heart and children for limbs, an *immortal* super-body, the limbs turning into heads and hearts, generating new limbs, limbs breaking off and fissioning into other immortal super-bodies starfish-style. Just like a great big dang ol' transformer robot, man.

#36 | Posted by FlyUntied at 2014-07-16 10:45 AM | Reply | Flag:

So what is racism anyway? I've read that chimps and humans have 98% similar DNA. Maybe the difference is not the *hardware* as much as the *operating system* installed. Humans have a geographically specific operating system pre-installed. This system runs in the significant portion of the individual, that is, the Genome.

So what you are saying is that the difference isn't the DNA, but instead it is the DNA? The definition of genome is "the full complement of genetic material within an organism".

In otherwords: Your DNA makes up your genetic code. It is organized into chromosomes. The complete complement of chromosomes in your body is your genome. You seem to talk about DNA and genome as if they are somehow totally different things. Ultimately your genome is just the total of all your DNA. Your DNA IS your operating system.

The rest of your post was a mix of gibberish and crazy.

#37 | Posted by moomanfl at 2014-07-16 12:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

Why don't these "patriots" try that with a full grown Black male.

Stop picking on the kids!

#38 | Posted by fresno500 at 2014-07-16 12:07 PM | Reply | Flag:

In otherwords: Your DNA makes up your genetic code. It is organized into chromosomes. The complete complement of chromosomes in your body is your genome. You seem to talk about DNA and genome as if they are somehow totally different things. Ultimately your genome is just the total of all your DNA. Your DNA IS your operating system.

Yes, that is the currently accepted belief. That 'we' somehow 'use' our genetic material for our own needs.
I propose, in a literary fashion, to imaginatively shift the focus of our reasons for doing what we do from our conscious to our subconscious minds. Even our conscious actions, it seems, are filtered by the subconscious. To promote a harmonious society, we are going to have to address the conflict between subconscious impulses and volitional behavior. The people that, for example, have such a compelling drive to thwart competition, will invent arbitrary distinctions i.e. Red Hats vs. Blue Hats, if the cognition were a little different, might decide to discard the ancient impulse.
(I'm writing in an Aristotle-Lian style. I like the long sentences and detached objectivity of his writings, pulling back, sort of, and describing what he sees, and what he imagines he sees lurking in the mist at the boundaries of where he's already explored, shamelessly going on and on.)
Thanks for reading!

#39 | Posted by FlyUntied at 2014-07-16 12:35 PM | Reply | Flag:

Incidentally, the accepted relationship of the genetic material to the overall critter is largely speculative as well, we are only beginning to learn about epigenetics, knowledge so mysterious and new that my spell checker doesn't know the word.

#40 | Posted by FlyUntied at 2014-07-16 12:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

I might clarify. The capitalized Genome in my story exists like data on a storage device of DNA. I'm using computer analogies, ok? The operator, that is, us, can set switches to affect the computation done by the Genome. So far as we have noticed, scientifically, this has happened once, when some famine survivors had their genetics affected within two generations. Wouldn't it be nice, to be able to flip a switch, and -click! -no more cancer. -click! no more sickle cells. -click! no more 60-shooting weekends in Chicago. But the end result would be, could be viewed as, that is, us changing our Genome in service of the same, to facilitate the silent immortal double helix's journey down 'the endless plain of time'. (hat tip to Henrich Willem van Loon)

#41 | Posted by FlyUntied at 2014-07-16 12:57 PM | Reply | Flag:

Oh, the bat soup thing. Yeah, that's a bit out there. I am using it as a symbol of world of ignorance, a land of helplessness and death.

news.discovery.com

#42 | Posted by FlyUntied at 2014-07-16 01:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

"So what is racism anyway? I've read that chimps and humans have 98% similar DNA. Maybe the difference is not the *hardware* as much as the *operating system* installed. Humans have a geographically specific operating system pre-installed. This system runs in the significant portion of the individual, that is, the Genome.

So what you are saying is that the difference isn't the DNA, but instead it is the DNA? The definition of genome is "the full complement of genetic material within an organism""

I'm saying that the 'hardware' of the DNA is mostly common, and the Genome with a capital G is equivalent to a program running on the DNA, so that the differences between a man and a chimp are mostly 'software'. We're made of the same basic ingredients. In humans, the 'software' differences are because the same DNA developed in a different geographical location, resulting in the different races, which have not only differing physical appearances, but differing subconscious impulses, which will have to be reconciled before we attain a peaceful society.

#43 | Posted by FlyUntied at 2014-07-16 01:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

Yes, that is the currently accepted belief. That 'we' somehow 'use' our genetic material for our own needs.
I propose, in a literary fashion, to imaginatively shift the focus...

#39 | Posted by FlyUntied at 2014-07-16 12:35 PM

In other words you were making crap up.

#44 | Posted by moomanfl at 2014-07-16 01:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

of course!

#45 | Posted by FlyUntied at 2014-07-16 03:57 PM | Reply | Flag:

I invented an explanation that makes sense. Racial friction is caused by incompatible subconscious impulses, as opposed to differing pigmentation. Black neighborhoods are dangerous because of out-of-place food competition impulses. Not because there is more melanin, and all else is identical.

#46 | Posted by FlyUntied at 2014-07-16 04:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

It's *writing*. Take it for what it's worth. Skip to the bumper-stickers and t-shirts, if that's what you want. But it's not 'crap'. It's writing. Crap is what they teach in school.

#47 | Posted by FlyUntied at 2014-07-16 04:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

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