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Monday, July 14, 2014

Radical conservatives in the U.S. have been energized by the armed standoff between federal officials and right-wing militiamen at the Bundy ranch in Nevada in April, according to a new report by an extremist watchdog group. The Southern Poverty Law Center's report, released Thursday, also called the U.S. Bureau of Land Management response to rancher Cliven Bundy "a failure of the federal government to come to terms with the true nature of the war in the West." A spokeswoman for the BLM in Nevada declined to comment on the report's conclusions.

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There have been 17 shooting incidents between anti-government extremists and U.S. law enforcement since 2009, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center report, which said tensions have been heightened between the BLM and radicals in other Western states since the Bundy showdown.

The report described one May incident, which was confirmed to the Los Angeles Times by a BLM spokeswoman, in which two men in Utah pointed a gun at a BLM worker while holding a sign that said, "You need to die."

The report said the radical conservative anti-government movement has expanded -- from about 150 groups in 2009 to more than 1,000 as of last year -- and called for the Department of Homeland Security to devote more resources toward non-Islamic domestic terrorism."

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"..called for the Department of Homeland Security to devote more resources toward non-Islamic domestic terrorism."

A liberal's dream!

#1 | Posted by Diablo at 2014-07-14 03:00 AM | Reply | Flag:

You are correct Diablo in that the threat from liberals as terrorists is almost zero. The terroristic threat from conservatives seems to more than zero though.

#2 | Posted by schmanch at 2014-07-14 07:06 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 4

the true nature of the war in the West.

A bunch of pretend soldiers and a freeloader is the true nature of the west?

#3 | Posted by 726 at 2014-07-14 08:00 AM | Reply | Flag:

The foam spraying from these kooks' mouths does seem to be reaching a critical level. We're probably overdue for another OKC type attack.

#4 | Posted by Sully at 2014-07-14 10:00 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

2. Uh, seriously? You need to get a hold of a history book. It is littered with violence and terrorist acts from left wing loonies in this country. Elf, wu, peta, greenpeace, unabomber, black panthers, earth first, and the list goes on and on. No one has a monopoly on terrorism.

#5 | Posted by salamandagator at 2014-07-14 02:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

No one has died yet. This is like Occupy Wall Street. but with less drugs and more guns. Otherwise, it's just more unemployed malcontents with an overactive sense of entitlement.

#6 | Posted by madbomber at 2014-07-14 06:50 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

.6. There were deaths with ows and assaults and rapes and burglary and vandalism and destruction of public and private property and the list goes on and on. Both groups may out to lunch but there can be question as to which anyone would rather have in their town.

#7 | Posted by salamandagator at 2014-07-14 07:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

Bundy should have humiliated all his foxnews supporters but some people really are shameless.

#8 | Posted by Tor at 2014-07-14 07:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

There were deaths with ows and assaults and rapes and burglary and vandalism and destruction of public and private property and the list goes on and on.

Hogwash...or better yet...MALARKY!

Those same things go on every day in American cities. They are not classified as acts of terrorism.

Nice try though. Left wing terrorism is practically nonexistent these days (unless you are including Islamic Extremists which WE don't)

The right wing now has a complete monopoly on terrorist acts.

#9 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-07-14 07:40 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

A liberal's dream!

Timmy McViegh, a conservative's dream. Davey Koresh, a Christian's dream!

Right Diablo?

Sal, the body count from right wingnuts vastly outnumbers those from lefty terrorists. Either one of those named above killed more people than ALL those leftwingnuts you listed combined.

#10 | Posted by northguy3 at 2014-07-14 08:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

Malarkey? Come on now haw many times have the crimes been highlighted? Sure they happen every day, there are no shortage of lowlifes and it does not take an event for them to act out. It does not change the facts.
But notice they were not called terrorists.
But again look at the list enumerated in part above. Most of them are classified by the first as terrorist groups. You have a problem with it take it up with them. But until then let's not pretend like terrorists are only from one side or the other. Extremists exist and always have across the entire spectrum.

#11 | Posted by salamandagator at 2014-07-14 08:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

if these guys converted to islam then the feds could ....uh.... legally drone them...

#12 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-07-14 08:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

No one has died yet.#6 | Posted by madbomber at

Right-wing murderers-terrorist like Tim McVeigh and Eric Robert Rudolph
come to mind

#13 | Posted by SammyAZ_RI at 2014-07-14 08:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

If a ------ like Jeb were President there wouldn't be this right wing armed rebellion. This is clearly Obama's fault.

#14 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-07-14 09:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

Conservatives Hanity and Beck have denounced Bundy. But liberals probably don't know that because they only read liberal rags.

#15 | Posted by sames1 at 2014-07-14 09:23 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Bundy is turning into the Democrats' Benghazi. The true crime here is the amount of coverage these people can continue to get due to the amount of outrage that is expressed every time Bundy is in a headline.

#16 | Posted by mariosanchez at 2014-07-14 10:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Conservatives Hanity and Beck have denounced Bundy."

Well, that's two. And only his racist rants, not his tax evasion.

#17 | Posted by REDIAL at 2014-07-15 12:01 AM | Reply | Flag:

.... "No one has a monopoly on terrorism"

**** Actually the US Govt does...and it is by far the Biggest Instigator and Perpetrator of TERRORISM in the entire World!

#18 | Posted by AntiCadillac at 2014-07-15 12:26 AM | Reply | Flag:

#5 | Posted by salamandagator a

Green Peace?
Oh shut up.

As for OWS I saw one of your right wing News sites list of crimes supposedly committed by ows they listed one rape that happened, 3 times on the list as a individual rapes, another rape that happened was committed a few blocks away from where OWS was located, another was committed by a street person.
The news source,s on the Right is pure bunk and filled with out right fear mongers and liars that try bring people to the edge of wanting to commit violence.

#19 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2014-07-15 01:00 AM | Reply | Flag:

So now we're changing the definition of "terrorism" to include street crime and vandalism?

LOL.

There is desperation and then there is this.


#20 | Posted by Sully at 2014-07-15 09:07 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

This could be easily be fixed.

The problem is this land needs to be given to the states. Or the states need to be running it and making the decision on regulating it.

#21 | Posted by tmaster at 2014-07-15 10:39 AM | Reply | Flag:

Or people who want to use resources that don't belong to them for their own private interests can just pay the necessary fees or find something else to do.

#22 | Posted by Sully at 2014-07-15 10:45 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

"The problem is this land needs to be given to the states."

You mean SOLD to the States. Right? Or better yet since the Federal Government doesn't really exist (in the world according to Bundy) maybe they should just take it.

That should make for some good TV.

#23 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-07-15 11:10 AM | Reply | Flag:

The easiest way to tell that OWS was actually on to something instead of just useful idiots like the Tea Party is that the powers that be instantly reacted, from FBI to local law enforcement working to infiltrate and entrap protesters or instigate less peaceful protest, to the right-wing owned corporate media instantly labeling them dirty hippies. Imagine the outcry had "free speech zones" been imposed on Tea Party members - the horror of such a first amendment violation would have instantly brought out the second amendment rhetoric.

Knee-jerk finger pointing from right wingers further proves it, as the media was able to effectively divide and conquer what should have been two concurrent and linkable populist movements.

The difference? The Bundy people showed up armed. Had OWS tried that, the old sixties college killings would have looked like a warm-up. And the right-wing, effectively divided by media and mushroomed (kept in the dark, fed the usual ----) would have cheered, though the rights violated would have been equal.

Not to Shawn it, but so fascism creeps in, while both sides of the aisle point at each other and not the people already in power and quickly gaining more.

#24 | Posted by zeropointnrg at 2014-07-15 01:05 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

"The easiest way to tell that OWS was actually on to something instead of just useful idiots like the Tea Party is that the powers that be instantly reacted, from FBI to local law enforcement working to infiltrate and entrap protesters or instigate less peaceful protest, to the right-wing owned corporate media instantly labeling them dirty hippies."

I agree and disagree. I think they initially worried the powers that be because it was the perfect time to bring up issues like crony capitalism and the destructive influence of money on our political process. These are issues that the majority of Americans can agree upon.

But then it became obvious that OWS was disorganized and incapable of delivering a coherent message that normal people would care about. Too many people muddying the waters with their own pet issues, mostly having to do with divisive identity politics that turn people away. This exposes the fatal flaw of the "big tent" approach: People with highly personal, toxic agendas are allowed to subvert the more meaningful, pragmatic messages.

OWS was a blown opportunity and that became obvious very quickly. That's why the hissing turned into snickering.

#25 | Posted by sully at 2014-07-15 01:24 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

I would add that the rapes and harrassing children walking to school or average people trying to go to work didn't help too.

#26 | Posted by Dalton at 2014-07-15 01:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

I would add that the rapes and harrassing children walking to school or average people trying to go to work didn't help too.

#26 | Posted by Dalton at 2014-07-15 01:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

Some of the assaults was just regular street crime. You put a bunch of clueless people on the street all night long and the local criminal element is going to take advantage.

But its also the draw back of the all inclusive approach. You end up associating with criminals who are taking advantage of the situation and whackjobs who undermine the cause by being stupid and aggressive.

#27 | Posted by Sully at 2014-07-15 02:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

Another thing was the protest in fron of private citizens homes. I don't care how rich someone is most Americans don't believe mobs of people should stand in front of their home and scare their children.

#28 | Posted by Dalton at 2014-07-15 02:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

#27 - true. But also simply a side effect of OWS actually being a grass roots organization. Easy for the TP to organize and coalesce around a consistent set of talking points, er, "message" when the Republican party did all it could from the outset to infiltrate, harness, and fund them, quickly benefiting from their rage before suffering a couple establishment casualties and reasserting control as they've been doing. Occupy definitely had an image problem, but that's a danger of actual grass roots vs astro turf.

#29 | Posted by zeropointnrg at 2014-07-15 03:28 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

17 shooting incident since 2009. How many gang-related murders have there been since 2009? The over-aggressive extremists are worthy of concern and scrutiny no doubt, but aren't gangs far worse, are they not domestic terrorists as well (although I despise that term).

#30 | Posted by danv at 2014-07-15 07:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

Dont wanna give up your guns during confiscations?

Wounded Knee! A liberals wet dream!!!

#31 | Posted by aescal at 2014-07-15 11:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

The problem is this land needs to be given to the states. Or the states need to be running it and making the decision on regulating it.

On what legal basis can the states claim the land?

#32 | Posted by jpw at 2014-07-16 04:45 AM | Reply | Flag:

Another thing was the protest in fron of private citizens homes.
Dalton

so would you apply this to doctors and nurses who perform abortions?

#33 | Posted by cjk85 at 2014-07-16 01:57 PM | Reply | Flag:

so would you apply this to doctors and nurses who perform abortions?

#33 | Posted by cjk85 at 2014-07-16 01:57 PM | Reply | Flag:

Yes

#34 | Posted by Dalton at 2014-07-16 02:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

You can protest at the clinic if you like just like you can protest in front of a business. Just not their homes.

#35 | Posted by Dalton at 2014-07-16 02:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

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