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Monday, July 14, 2014

Until now, the politics of immigration have been seen as a no-lose proposition for President Barack Obama and the Democrats. If they could get a comprehensive overhaul passed, they would win. And if Republicans blocked it, the GOP would further alienate crucial Hispanic and moderate voters. But with the current crisis on the Southwest border, where authorities have apprehended tens of thousands of unaccompanied Central American children since October, that calculus may be shifting.

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Republicans and even some Democrats have accused Obama of being insufficiently engaged in a calamity that many say he should have seen coming.

And the president

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People are seeing for themselves the result policies that Obama has enacted. When Obama controlled the message and the press willingly helped him, he could continue to frame this in a way that ignorant people would agree with him. Now that we are seeing first hand the logical result of his policies he is losing.

He is now sort of like the Wizard of Oz. "Pay no attention the them man behind the curtain."

#1 | Posted by sawdust at 2014-07-13 07:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

Its the worlds fault.

Its a feedback mechanism, Obama gets his information from the newspapers, the newspapers got their information from the WhiteHouse, and so it went...

Everything was right as rain.

The world just didn't cooperate.... now the tsunami is coming ashore.

But hey we all racists now...

#2 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-07-13 08:57 PM | Reply | Flag:

Obama gets his information from the newspapers, the newspapers got their information from the WhiteHouse, and so it went...

Everything was right as rain.

The world just didn't cooperate.... now the tsunami is coming ashore.

But hey we all racists now...

Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-07-13 08:57 PM | Reply

Hey at least Obama can read. You voted for Dubya who was fed his information on picture DVD'S. Funny dat be Ma'am.

#3 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-07-13 09:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

Obama can't be bothered with actual problems. I mean hell there is money to raise and other people to exploit. Si se puede!

#4 | Posted by Dalton at 2014-07-15 11:48 AM | Reply | Flag:

The saddest part is that things are so broken in DC that both Congress and Obama are caught up in making the other side look bad, rather than focusing on fixing the situation. One's head spins hearing (1) a Governor ask the POTUS to call out the national guard, rather than the Gov do it himself (2) Congress ask that laws be enforced, ignoring that the POTUS has already sent back more illegal immigrants than his predecessor (3) a request is made for funds to address the problem, and the person making the request is told that the amount asked for is either too big or not enough (4) the POTUS appearing to be flat-footed and tone-deaf regarding the problem (5) vigilante gun freaks rigging out their ski boats with .50 Cal guns, as if they are going to shoot folks swimming across the Rio Grande, but local law enforcement and the Border Patrol not stopping them (6) etc., etc., etc...

#5 | Posted by catdog at 2014-07-15 11:49 AM | Reply | Flag:

Obama gets it. He may not be able to wave a magic wand and make the crisis disappear. But he gets it and is attempting to marshall American governmental resources to address. Stymied of course by most rightwingers whose only response is scream "deport 'em all!". Also, for idiot rightwingers to claim this crisis was 'foreseeable' is, well, idiotic.

#6 | Posted by moder8 at 2014-07-15 11:54 AM | Reply | Flag:

#5 You are about as wrong as someone can be. First it's the federal governments job to enforce the border. Not individual states. Second. Obama hasn't deported more people. Actually it's less. Obama changed the method for counting deportations by counting people turned away at the border which no previous president counted. Obama asked for 3.7 billion dollars with no details to how he would spend the money. The president doesn't appear to be flat footed. He is flat footed and has proven that fact with crisis after crisis.

#7 | Posted by Dalton at 2014-07-15 11:55 AM | Reply | Flag:

Also, for idiot rightwingers to claim this crisis was 'foreseeable' is, well, idiotic.

The only idiot is the one that pretends that this wasn't predicted long ago by those against amnesty back when Obama first started bringing up the idea of "immigration reform". It was predicted at least as far back as his speeches on the DREAM Act about how this would trigger a flood of -------- immigrants (amnesty in general) and illegal immigrant kids (DREAM Act) that would want to get into the country before it went into effect so they could get the fast track on legality.

That the pro-amnesty crowd pooh-poohed it as hyperbole, partisan rhetoric, and/or racist fear of "brown people" at the time doesn't make it any less foreseen. It DOES however, if they try to claim it wasn't "foreseeable", make them either liars and/or idiots of an extreme variety.

#8 | Posted by moomanfl at 2014-07-15 12:23 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

For that matter, I remember predictions of this kind of thing being made back in the last couple of years of the Bush presidency when he started making noises about immigration reform. At the time there was an estimated 12 million -------- in the US (remember the "Si se puede!" rallies at time to push for legislation?). There were predictions during the public debate during the push for the Comprehensive Immigrant Reform Act of 2007 that if it looked likely to pass that there would be a huge flood of illegal immigrants trying to get in to the country so that they would be covered by it when it became effective. The prediction was a no-brainer. Common sense really. Which would explain why some would deny that it was made since they were most likely some of the ones saying it wouldn't happen.

For those that think this is all about "poor kids fleeing dangerous situations in their home countries":

Those situations have been there for years without this gargantuan flood of people, never mind the vast amounts of unaccompanied kids we are seeing now. Central and South America has long been a hotbed of violence, exploitation, gangs and atrocities in general that have effected children. This isn't new. It isn't even notably worse now than in the past. There isn't a major sudden event in recent months to trigger such a change in size or age make-up of the population in exodus to our country.

You can call me crazy if you want, you probably would no matter what if you weren't calling me something worse, but this smacks of cold and shrewd political calculation. Immigration Reform to be kind, or Amnesty to be realistic, has only really looked likely in recent months. That it is largely kids rather than adults seems highly unusual. The simplest explanation, given the lack of a sudden catastrophic incident in South and Central America to cause a mass exodus, is that word was spread to send lots of people now and especially send kids. This was too timed and perfectly executed to have not been planned and worked for. Creating a situation that would result in a huge influx of children is the smartest strategy move for someone that wanted to overwhelm and break the current system to the point that it would it would appear to be necessary to accept it and change rather than put up a fight.

#9 | Posted by moomanfl at 2014-07-15 01:35 PM | Reply | Flag:

Liberals throughout the 2000's kept repeating the mantra of "follow the money" when talking about Bush, Cheney, oil, Halliburton, and the Middle East. Of course that mantra is just a variation of the mantra of any detective: Who stands to benefit the most from what is occurring, or has occurred. Who has means, motive, and opportunity?

Well, out of the 4 South American countries I looked up (Guatemala, Venezuela, Brazil, and Colombia), all 4 United States Ambassadors to those countries were appointed by Barrack Obama. Not unusual really that they would be, but I wanted to make sure. It doesn't seem unlikely that an Embassy with an ambassador appointed by the current president that has such an interest in getting a political victory on this issue might leak information out in such a way that the call to send kids would spread fast in the right communities. The means are there.

As discussed, immigration reform in general, and amnesty in particular has been a well-known goal of this president and the Democratic party. There is motive.

A flood of -------- so large that it would necessarily break the system of ability to stem it or reverse it is one likely path to that goal. That this path also bypasses the divided American public and gridlocked Congress that would possibly have, once again, endangered his goals makes it attractive. That it is children makes it a toxic political football that can be spun from the bully pulpit to paint opponents as heartless and cruel to the poor underage "refugees". Get the UN involved to push the "refugee children" angle and the President has political cover and, more importantly, regained political clout on this issue which had all but disappeared lately nearly relegating him to an ineffectual lame duck. There is the opportunity.

#10 | Posted by moomanfl at 2014-07-15 01:35 PM | Reply | Flag:

Liberals throughout the 2000's kept repeating the mantra of "follow the money" when talking about Bush, Cheney, oil, Halliburton, and the Middle East.

#10 | POSTED BY MOOMANFL

Bush and Cheney pushed the country into a senseless war where they, big oil and Halliburton just so happened to profit from it.

Obama is not responsible for the violence Central American children are faced with.

#11 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2014-07-15 03:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Obama is not responsible for the violence Central American children are faced with."

As long as he continues the War on Some Drugs, he bears partial responsibility. And as long as he supports free-trade agreements which allowing dumping of U.S. agricultural products on Latin American, impoverishing their farmers and turning them into illegal immigrants.

#12 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-07-15 03:07 PM | Reply | Flag:

Obama is not responsible for the violence Central American children are faced with.
#11 | POSTED BY DEREK_WILDSTAR

True. But the historical U.S. foreign policy is largely to blame, however. I implore everyone to watch (or read) Harvest of an Empire.

Documentary can be seen here: www.nowvideo.sx

#13 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-07-15 03:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

As long as he continues the War on Some Drugs, he bears partial responsibility. And as long as he supports free-trade agreements which allowing dumping of U.S. agricultural products on Latin American, impoverishing their farmers and turning them into illegal immigrants.
#12 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

Exactly. Very Newsworthy, NULLI.

#14 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-07-15 03:25 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Obama is not responsible for the violence Central American children are faced with.

#11 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2014-07-15 03:04 PM

Red herring. I never said he was responsible for the violence. The violence has existed at this level for many years through wars, coups, cartel violence, gang violence, and general lawlessness. This mass exodus has just started. So why now and not earlier? The answer to that is very firmly rooted with Obama and his long stated ambition for immigration.

#15 | Posted by moomanfl at 2014-07-15 06:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

Nothing like a good border crisis to separate the Humans from the Xenophobes.

#16 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-07-16 10:47 AM | Reply | Flag:

Donner, Obama has already said that these children will be sent home. Is he a xeonphobe?

#17 | Posted by Dalton at 2014-07-16 10:59 AM | Reply | Flag:

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