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Wednesday, July 09, 2014

After an 84-year-old grandfather shot his 49-year-old son, an 11-year-old grandson shot the grandfather, police said. The family gunfight occurred Monday night in Kittrell, a North Carolina town of 500 people. Grandfather Lloyd Woodlief died shortly after being shot once with a 12-gauge shotgun. Son Lloyd Peyton Woodlief was shot with a 22-caliber pistol and is being treated at a Durham hospital. The 11-year-old grandson was not hurt. Police haven't said who, if anyone, is being charged with crimes over the shootings.

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Father & son hate enough other enough to get into a gunfight that's ended by the grandkid...

makes you wonder what holiday family dinners were like.

#1 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2014-07-09 08:19 AM | Reply | Flag:

What a heart warming story of multi-generational love.

#2 | Posted by danni at 2014-07-09 08:25 AM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

Maybe everyibne in the rioom was a threat.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2014-07-09 08:54 AM | Reply | Flag:

Maybe everyone in the room was a threat?

#4 | Posted by Zed at 2014-07-09 08:54 AM | Reply | Flag:

wow...yep...those guns in the hands
of everyone sure make this a much less
common thing to read about...

oh well, evolution I guess...

#5 | Posted by earthmuse at 2014-07-09 09:09 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Grandfather Lloyd Woodlief died shortly after being shot once with a 12-gauge shotgun. Son Lloyd Peyton Woodlief was shot with a 22-caliber pistol and is being treated at a Durham hospital."

I blame the lamestream media. This poor, brainwashed, hoplophobic kid just didn't understand what was going on. Assuming grandpa was responsible enough to shoot his son in a non-vital area, which is all put a certainty, a 22-pistol was a perfectably acceptable tool to use in disciplining his son. But the grandkid can't think straight because he is obviously conditioned by the media and common core schooling. He sees his father get shot and immediately jumps to the conclusion that this is a big deal. So he flys off the handle and grabs the 12 gauge, which isn't suitable for settling family arguments. Such an unnecessary tragedy. Stop the madness, Obama!

#6 | Posted by Sully at 2014-07-09 09:10 AM | Reply | Flag:

Kid will probably be charged and get the death penalty. It North Carolina after all - not quite Texas but close enough.

#8 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2014-07-09 09:29 AM | Reply | Flag:

#7 | Posted by sames1 at 2014-07-09 09:26 AMFlag: (Choose)
FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusiv
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One point might be that if you guys keep killing yourselves off then that, in itself, is a solution to the problem.

#9 | Posted by Zed at 2014-07-09 09:30 AM | Reply | Flag:

Maybe everyibne in the rioom was a threat.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2014-07-09 08:54 AM | Reply | Flag

Hiccup!

#10 | Posted by Dalton at 2014-07-09 09:31 AM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 3

#7 | POSTED BY SAMES1
"Are we going to post every gun incident in the world on this site?"

Sames, the cumulative total of "gun incidents" posted on this site represent a tiny fraction of a tiny fraction of the number of "gun incidents" in this country alone.
"Gun incidents" in and of themselves are not newsworthy. Why? They're incredibly common.

But a grandfather shooting his son, only to be shot and killed in turn by his grandson?
You don't find that newsworthy?

"Gun incidents" should be so uncommon as to merit posting, but unfortunately that's not the world we live in, not the country we live in.

You think you have a point, don't you?

#11 | Posted by TheTom at 2014-07-09 10:35 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

#3 | POSTED BY ZED
"Maybe everyibne in the rioom was a threat."

Zed, what did we say about drinking and posting before 9am?

#12 | Posted by TheTom at 2014-07-09 10:36 AM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

You know what they say: the family that slays together...

Talk about a bonding experience.

#13 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-07-09 10:43 AM | Reply | Flag:

I would guess that owning a .22 and a shotgun were the least of this family's problems. Honey Boom Boom?

#14 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2014-07-09 10:53 AM | Reply | Flag:

So if the grandfather had stabbed the father to death, then killed the grandson too, this would have been better? In this case the grandfather attacked his own son, and was saved because he had a gun which his own son used to kill the attacker.

In this case, the guns were legal, used in the home, not in public, and certainly were not so-called assault rifles. This exact incident could have happened in the UK at a home with a hunting license, if my understanding of their laws is correct.

#15 | Posted by LEgregius at 2014-07-09 12:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

well said #11. What's with the Sames1 person?

#16 | Posted by suzycreamcheese at 2014-07-09 12:12 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

well said #11. What's with the Sames1 person?

#17 | Posted by suzycreamcheese at 2014-07-09 12:12 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

well said #11. What's with the Sames1 person?

#18 | Posted by suzycreamcheese at 2014-07-09 12:12 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 3

well said #11. What's with the Sames1 person?

#19 | Posted by suzycreamcheese at 2014-07-09 12:12 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

""Gun incidents" in and of themselves are not newsworthy. Why? They're incredibly common."

Common is relative. If it is per capita the it is incredibly uncommon but at close to 350 million people the very rare will happen all the time. It does not make it much of an issue as the CDC and FBI stats show.

It's kind like a supernova. Those things are beyond rare but with billions of stars they are occurring constantly. Does that make them common? No.

For comparison there are almost twice the number of drownings a year in this country then there are gun deaths not involving suicide or gang violence. Are drownings put together cumulatively to create a very common issue that should be newsworthy? No that would be ludicrous.

The newsworthy part is the oddity of the situation not the gun.

#20 | Posted by salamandagator at 2014-07-09 12:36 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

The only thing that stops a bad son with a gun is a good grandpa.. er.. the only thing that stops a bad grandpa with a gun is a good grandson..
um.. oh to hell with it! You know what we mean!

~NRA

#21 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2014-07-09 12:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

So...blah...blah...knives...

#15 | Posted by LEgregius

I'm pretty sure if this had involved knives, grandpa would still be alive today. Kind of easy to disarm an 11y/o with a knife. Now the kid gets the thrill of going through life knowing he killed his granddad.
But that's OK, when he grows up and becomes a drug addict to numb the pain, I'm sure you'll support throwing him in jail.

#22 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2014-07-09 01:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

And I was so certain this was another story out of Florida!

#23 | Posted by moder8 at 2014-07-09 01:22 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

#22 Ever done a self defense knife course? not like the one at the community center for grandma, one where they have either a tazer blade or a marker and youre told to disarm them with minimal damage? no? No matter how 'easy' you think disarming someone with a knife should be, real world experience says your better off trying to disarm someone who has a gun... you know which direction the danger is going. Even experienced knife artists dont like the prospect of disarming someone with knife.

I know totally off topic, but d@mnit if I dont TRY to dispel this myth that somehow its easy to disarm anyone with a knife... some of you just live sooooo sheltered.

#24 | Posted by monkeylogic42 at 2014-07-09 01:35 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Grandpa Shoots Son, Grandson Shoots Grandpa"

So this is what an NRA ---------- looks like.

#25 | Posted by Harry_Powell at 2014-07-09 02:33 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Grandpa got shot by his grandson
Trying to kill his own son yesterday
You may say there's no such thing as karma
But I think this is hysterical anyway

#26 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-07-09 02:35 PM | Reply | Flag:

#24 | Posted by monkeylogic42

So maybe Grandpa would have gotten cut, but he'd be alive and the kid wouldn't have this on his conscience. That's the cop mentality, it's better to have a dead citizen then a cut cop.

#27 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2014-07-09 04:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

After my financial well-off grandfather died, I learned that I was not in his will. I wanted to kill him, but he was already dead

#28 | Posted by SammyAZ_RI at 2014-07-09 09:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

"After my financial well-off grandfather died, I learned that I was not in his will. I wanted to kill him, but he was already dead"

That's sad.

#29 | Posted by danni at 2014-07-09 09:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

Meh if the intent was to kill it would havr happened knife or shotty, no grandpa wouldnt have survived being stabbed inmate style 37 times... yes let the crazy genes off themselves...

#30 | Posted by monkeylogic42 at 2014-07-09 09:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

Now the kid gets the thrill of going through life knowing he killed his granddad.
But that's OK, when he grows up and becomes a drug addict to numb the pain

You assume this will be on his conscience. He may be balanced knowing he saved his father's life. Plus, we don't know the situation, the kid may have known what his grandfather was doing was wrong, thereby saving his father's life..

Sometimes uses for force are justified.

I notice some liberals seem to think killing isn't justified even to save their own lives. That goes against nature, as liberal perceptions often do.

#31 | Posted by boaz at 2014-07-10 09:30 AM | Reply | Flag:

I notice some liberals seem to think killing isn't justified even to save their own lives. That goes against nature, as liberal perceptions often do.

#31 | Posted by boaz at 2014-07-10 09:30 AM | Reply | Flag:

You couldn't possibly come up a with a real example of this.

#32 | Posted by Sully at 2014-07-10 09:39 AM | Reply | Flag:

Actually, there is such thing as a pacifist so you can find examples.

But true pacifists are very rare (like Jesus) so its still a retarded generalization.

#33 | Posted by Sully at 2014-07-10 09:40 AM | Reply | Flag:

#31 | POSTED BY BOAZ
"I notice some liberals seem to think killing isn't justified even to save their own lives."

Which leaves two possibilities: Either you're lying, or too stupid to pay attention to.

And since you're not stupid...

#34 | Posted by TheTom at 2014-07-10 10:18 AM | Reply | Flag:

Ever heard of PETA?

#35 | Posted by boaz at 2014-07-10 10:43 AM | Reply | Flag:

Why, yes, I'm sure all of us have heard of PETA. Your point?

#36 | Posted by TheTom at 2014-07-11 12:20 AM | Reply | Flag:

This is Biden's fault!

#37 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2014-07-11 02:59 AM | Reply | Flag:

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