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Tuesday, July 08, 2014

The U.S. container ship Cape Ray has started to neutralize chemical materials that were once part of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's weapons arsenal, the Defense Department said. The ship, located in international waters in the Mediterranean Sea, began processing about 600 metric tonnes of chemical weapons and the raw materials that could be used in them. The U.S. government has said the materials include mustard gas and components for the nerve agent sarin.

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Washington and Moscow supported the agreement under which Assad surrendered Syria's chemical weapons after Damascus was accused of using them against civilians.

Good.


#1 | Posted by REDIAL at 2014-07-08 12:10 AM | Reply | Flag:

This seems like a reasonable way to interact. Why only 80%? Are weapons inspectors or Assad lying?

I wouldn't trust Russia with any aspect of this process. Their word is mud.

#2 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2014-07-08 01:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

Well let no one say there wasn't any good news today.

#3 | Posted by Tor at 2014-07-08 02:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

Obvious more failure by obama. Bush and the Republicans would have done a much better job addressing this issue.

#4 | Posted by moder8 at 2014-07-08 02:13 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 2

Yea, they would have invaded.

Just what we don't need.

#5 | Posted by bat4255 at 2014-07-08 02:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

#2 I read another article that said that we were destroying Assad's "declared" weapons. Obviously, he's going to lie. No way a guy fighting for his life gives them all up.

#6 | Posted by Dalton at 2014-07-08 02:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

Why don't we send them back to Iraq where they came from.

#7 | Posted by fishpaw at 2014-07-08 02:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

FishPaw beat me to it. I was going to say "U.S. Begins to Destroy Iraq's Chemical Weapons"

#8 | Posted by sames1 at 2014-07-08 02:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

Why don't we send them back to Iraq where they came from.

#7 | Posted by fishpaw at 2014-07-08 02:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

Still spewing that balderdash ehhhhhhh?? That Lady Macbeth Syndrome must be killer.

#9 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-07-08 02:53 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

"Why don't we send them back to Iraq where they came from."

Again?

#10 | Posted by REDIAL at 2014-07-08 09:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

Obama should have invited Putin to join him in a toast in the hope that despite their differences, the welfare of the world to some degree, is dependent upon their ability to accomplish big things like this as partners instead of antagonists.

#11 | Posted by danni at 2014-07-08 09:57 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

Kill 350 with chemicals that cause bad biological reactions, the "civilized" world freaks out and threats it like a victory when some of those chemicals are removed.

Kill thousands per year by dropping barrels of high explosives from helicopters, where the chemicals react to cause a different kind of bad biological reaction, the "civilized" world doesn't bat an eye. Hell, half of it sends you more high explosives.

#12 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2014-07-09 11:04 AM | Reply | Flag:

FishPaw beat me to it. I was going to say "U.S. Begins to Destroy Iraq's Chemical Weapons"

#8 | Posted by sames1 at 2014-07-08 02:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

Why you both share the same delusion. That's neat!

#13 | Posted by Sully at 2014-07-09 11:21 AM | Reply | Flag:

rt.com

ISIS now in control of plant capable of making chem weapons, as well as old stock.

Who would have thought that supporting extremist rebels opposed to a secular regime would end badly?

#14 | Posted by aescal at 2014-07-09 11:41 AM | Reply | Flag:

Why you both share the same delusion. That's neat!

#13 | Posted by Sully

Where did Hussain's chemicals go? He did have them.

#15 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-07-09 12:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

Where did Hussain's chemicals go? He did have them.
#15 | POSTED BY SNIPER AT 2014-07-09 12:49 PM | FLAG:

Did BushJr tell you that?

I bet you'd be willing to murder another 4,000 Americans if your idol BushJr wanted to.

#16 | Posted by ClownShack at 2014-07-09 12:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

Where did Hussain's chemicals go? He did have them.

#15 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-07-09 12:49 PM | Reply | Fla

www.factcheck.org

Q: Were there really weapons of mass destruction in Iraq when the U.S. invaded in 2003?

A: No. The Iraq Survey Group determined that Iraq had abandoned its quest to develop chemical, biological and nuclear weapons and that it had already destroyed all of its existing stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons.

#17 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-07-09 12:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

A: No. The Iraq Survey Group determined that Iraq had abandoned its quest to develop chemical, biological and nuclear weapons and that it had already destroyed all of its existing stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons.

"But, but, but they were building WMDs in mobile labs on trucks.

And of course they buried them all in the desert."

~Stupid.

#18 | Posted by ClownShack at 2014-07-09 12:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

#17: Then I have a question. How is ISIS finding them in Iraq?

The Islamic State of Syria and Iraq, better known as ISIS, captured the facility in Muthanna on June 11, according to a letter made public Tuesday at the United Nations.

The site, about 35 miles southwest of Baghdad, was once operated by Saddam's army and is believed to contain 2,500 degraded rockets filled with potentially deadly sarin and mustard gas.


www.nydailynews.com

#19 | Posted by Daniel at 2014-07-09 01:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

From Your link Daniel

But U.S. officials have played down the seizure, saying the degraded chemical remnants date to the 1980s and were stored at the facility after being dismantled by UN inspectors.

#20 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-07-09 01:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

So, you believe there is no danger from these weapons? The phrase "U.S. officials have played down the seizure" alone troubles me.

#21 | Posted by Daniel at 2014-07-09 01:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

I suppose when there is a use of chemical weapons, there will be another red line drawn for "U.S. officials". I hope you all are right but, ISIS has already proven they are very creative when it comes to killing people.

#22 | Posted by Daniel at 2014-07-09 01:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

Where did Hussain's chemicals go? He did have them.

#15 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-07-09 12:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

You were played. Learn from it. Do better next time.

#23 | Posted by Sully at 2014-07-09 01:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

Where did Hussain's chemicals go? He did have them.

#15 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-07-09 12:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

You were played. Learn from it. Do better next time.

#24 | Posted by Sully at 2014-07-09 01:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

Q: Were there really weapons of mass destruction in Iraq when the U.S. invaded in 2003?

A: No. The Iraq Survey Group determined that Iraq had abandoned its quest to develop chemical, biological and nuclear weapons and that it had already destroyed all of its existing stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons.

#17 | Posted by LarryMohr

So lar, what chemicals were in the facility that ISIS took over just a few weeks ago?

#25 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-07-09 04:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

So lar, what chemicals were in the facility that ISIS took over just a few weeks ago?

#25 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-07-09 04:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

Degraded munitions that posed no real threat.

#26 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-07-09 04:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

WTF is this all about lar? Don't you keep up with the news???

www.nydailynews.com

#27 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-07-09 04:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

~Stupid.

#18 | Posted by ClownShack

You realy are clo, read the link in #27

#28 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-07-09 04:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

WTF is this all about lar? Don't you keep up with the news???

www.nydailynews.com

#27 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-07-09 04:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

From Your link

But U.S. officials have played down the seizure, saying the degraded chemical remnants date to the 1980s and were stored at the facility after being dismantled by UN inspectors.

Please do try again.

#29 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-07-09 04:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

You were played. Learn from it. Do better next time.

#23 | Posted by Sully

Are you following this thread? Talk about being played like a drum you are the master at being played sul.

#30 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-07-09 04:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

Are you following this thread? Talk about being played like a drum you are the master at being played sul.

#30 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-07-09 04:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

Am I following? LOL Are you? Your own link says the UN inspectors were aware of these materials and that they pose no risk. The Bush admin didn't even play this cache up as the WMDs they were looking for back when they were desperate to find anything. Why? Because they knew it would come out that this cache had been inspected and considered a non-threat. You're peddling your traitorous agenda with a link that proves you wrong.

Also, if you really want to dig into it, WMDs was only half the lie. In order to leverage 9/11 for their own aims, the Bushies knew that they had to link Saddam and his fictional WMDs to Al Qaeda. There was never any such connection.

But please continue to make a fool of yourself trying to pretend youv'e cracked the case....

#31 | Posted by Sully at 2014-07-09 04:32 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

" So lar, what chemicals were in the facility that ISIS took over just a few weeks ago?
#25 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-07-09 04:14 PM"

'The Iraq Study group did find chemical munitions at Muthanna but determined that inspections by United Nations Special Commission, or Unscom, had ensured the facility was dismantled and remaining chemical stocks militarily useless and sealed in bunkers.

"Two wars, sanctions and Unscom oversight reduced Iraqi's premier production facility to a stockpile of old damaged and contaminated chemical munitions (sealed in bunkers), a wasteland full of destroyed chemical munitions, razed structures, and unusable war-ravaged facilities," the Iraq Study Group's 2004 report concluded.

The Muthanna complex is near Lake Tharthar, roughly 45 miles northwest of Baghdad, an area now firmly in control of the Sunni rebels. ISIS has taken control of most of Anbar province as well as Mosul, Iraq's second-largest city.

Military officials said the U.S. was well aware of the Muthanna stockpile and wouldn't have left it there if it posed a military threat. Still, when the U.S. pulled out of Iraq, it didn't anticipate a large swath of the country, including numerous military bases, would be overrun by radical Sunni militants. One defense official said that if the U.S. had known the Iraqi government would lose control so soon, it might not have left the old chemical weapons in place.'

online.wsj.com

#32 | Posted by TrueBlue at 2014-07-09 04:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

The problem with these degraded weapons is that they pose no threat in the hands of a conventional army. This is ISIS we are talking about. If Al Queda is into suicide and truck bombings, yet considers ISIS's ways too extreme and radical, one can only imagine what those weapons can do in thier hands. Dirty bombs, water supply contamination, etc. Always question someone tells you there is no considerable risk, but some risk. AQ in Syria (Al Nusra) has already been caught with sarin in Syria, implying that they and probably ISIS have the chem engineers to Macgyver this stockpile.

#33 | Posted by aescal at 2014-07-09 07:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

Meanwhile despite having used them repeatedly(Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, etc) the American empire is entrusted with far more and worse.

#34 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-07-09 09:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

But please continue to make a fool of yourself trying to pretend youv'e cracked the case....

#31 | Posted by Sully

Tell me o'wize one............ Why did the US spend so much time destroying old WW-I chemicals here in the US if old chemicals are NO threat? I guess you really trust the UN to look out for you?

#35 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-07-10 12:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

Obama should have invited Putin to join him in a toast in the hope that despite their differences, the welfare of the world to some degree, is dependent upon their ability to accomplish big things like this as partners instead of antagonists.
#11 | Posted by danni at 2014-07-08 09:57 PM | Funny: 1

And who would believe such obvious propaganda?! The above is literal kowtowing to those who feign indignation over Obama formally bowing to other national leaders. Putin is absolutely uninterested in stabilization of Europe, to align with him so shortly after TWO UNPROVOKED INVASIONS AND THREATENING A THIRD is ridiculousness on high. I adore you, but at some point you will need to recognize Russia for the theocratic plutocracy that Republicans want for America.

#36 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2014-07-10 01:28 PM | Reply | Flag:

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