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Monday, July 07, 2014

Patrick Buchanan: Republicans should drop the talk of impeachment. For the GOP would gain nothing and risk everything if the people began to take seriously their threats to do to Barack Obama what Newt Gingrich's House did to Bill Clinton. ... Any Republican attempt at impeachment would go up against a stacked deck. And the GOP would be throwing away a winning hand for a losing one.

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If Obama were to be impeached I truly believe that blacks would burn this f___r down.

Therefore, that whole idea is a really, really, really bad one. And would only turn Obama into a martyr.

#1 | Posted by badbird at 2014-07-07 01:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

You might be right BadBird. No substantive evaluation of Obama's performance could be had because everybody would be screaming racist!

#2 | Posted by boaz at 2014-07-07 02:07 PM | Reply | Flag:

You MIGHT be able to Impeach him. You won't be able to convict him of said impeachment.

#3 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-07-07 02:16 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

Pat Buchanan gets most things right, until that thing conflicts with Catholicism. He has a very deep understanding of politics, domestic and global.

#4 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-07-07 03:48 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

A conviction in the Senate requires a 2/3 majority vote. When the GOP rubes impeached Bill Clinton they did not even get a simple majority.
The results would be the same for Obama.

#5 | Posted by SammyAZ_RI at 2014-07-07 03:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

I think Obama would get even fewer votes for removal than did Clinton.

Back in the Clinton years, Congress at least made a show for helping protect their turf in the separation of powers.

Now they just put on a dress and hand the President a funky cigar.

#6 | Posted by DoofusOfDeath at 2014-07-07 03:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

"I truly believe that blacks would burn this f___r down"

let me guess, you are (drum roll) white.

#7 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-07-07 04:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Pat Buchanan gets most things right"

He gets some things right, like imperialism and corporate free trade. Of course DNC liberals don't want to talk about those things and can only respond with ad hominem about racism, like they do with Rand Paul.

#8 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-07-07 04:07 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

-"Pat Buchanan gets most things right"

Yes, "Lock and Load!" was brilliant.

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2014-07-07 04:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

Buchanan's culture war speech at the 1992 Republican convention "probably read better in the original German."

Late great Molly Ivins

#10 | Posted by 88120rob at 2014-07-07 04:44 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 3

A conviction in the Senate requires a 2/3 majority vote. When the GOP rubes impeached Bill Clinton they did not even get a simple majority.
The results would be the same for Obama.

#5 | Posted by SammyAZ_RI

GTrue but.............. they didn't loose the house or senate when they impeached him. They lost NOTHING!!!!!

#11 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-07-07 04:48 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Buchanan's culture war speech at the 1992 Republican convention "pWrobably read better in the original German."

Late great Molly Ivins"

In other words she called him a Nazi. How original. She may be late, but she wasn't great.

#12 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-07-07 04:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

That "We stand by Bush" speech by Buchanan was about as NeoCon Nazi as it gets.

Kudos for the Molly Ivins reference, ROB.

#13 | Posted by Corky at 2014-07-07 05:02 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

Today's neocons love Hillary, hate Buchanan. That's a fact, Jack. Deal with it.

#14 | Posted by nullifidian at 2014-07-07 05:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

GO ahead and trying to impeach him.

It will go down in history that every Democratic President elected in a three decade period Republicans tried to impeach.

#15 | Posted by Tor at 2014-07-07 05:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

the word 'impeach' is so overused-- it has no real meaning anymore. can we get a new word please???

how about imnectarine instead?

#16 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-07-07 05:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

Bad idea all around for three reasons:

1. Revolt / riots (after all, the Democrats are an emotional lot, God love 'em.
2. Biden - enough said
3. Bad for 2016 for the other parties

We just need to ride this out and look forward, not backwards

#17 | Posted by path at 2014-07-07 07:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

-Today's neocons love Hillary

lol, they say that knowing the most naive among us, and/or the Pure Clinton Haters, will fall for it.

They would prefer Mitt! or Jeb the PNAC signer any day.

#18 | Posted by Corky at 2014-07-07 08:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

Can America survive another 2 1/2 years of that rotten progressive communist Sun of a female dog ?

#19 | Posted by lel2007 at 2014-07-07 08:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

If Obama were to be impeached I truly believe that blacks would burn this f___r down.
Therefore, that whole idea is a really, really, really bad one. And would only turn Obama into a martyr.

#1 | POSTED BY BADBIRD AT 2014-07-07 01:24 PM | FLAG:

You might be right BadBird. No substantive evaluation of Obama's performance could be had because everybody would be screaming racist!

#2 | POSTED BY BOAZ AT 2014-07-07 02:07 PM | FLAG:

like the racism you two just demonstrated?

#20 | Posted by ichiro at 2014-07-07 08:38 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

"No substantive evaluation of Obama's performance could be had because everybody would be screaming racist!"

An impeachment isn't about a "substantive evaluation of OBama" that is what the 2012 election was for. Obama was reelected with a fairly large margin of the voters.

"The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."

www.superkids.com

#21 | Posted by danni at 2014-07-07 09:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

Impeachment would be a foolish act. In the first place, it would use up
what little political capital that the Republicans have. The Senate would never convict. Impeachment of Clinton did no good-he received no social penalty for his lying under oath or being impeached. Even if Obama would be convicted, Biden would then be president. He would be stupid, but he would not have the clout with the Obama supporters or the MSM and Hollywood and academia that Obama has had, but he would then be the incumbent. Impeachment would drag on and on and would be moot if Obama were no longer in office. So for the second time I have to agree with Buchanan. Some years ago I wrote him "At last, you have written something with which I can agree." He wrote back, "Even a blind pig finds an acorn sometimes." I have had more respect for him ever since. Donald W. Bales, M.D. retired, Kingsport, Tn.

#22 | Posted by Donald at 2014-07-07 09:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

**** Joan Rivers Calls President Obama Gay,Says First Lady Is a "Tranny"!

www.youtube.com

#23 | Posted by AntiCadillac at 2014-07-07 09:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

Can America survive another 2 1/2 years of that rotten progressive communist Sun of a female dog ?

#19 | POSTED BY LEL2007

And some lefties wonder why Obama didn't get everything they wanted done.

#24 | Posted by Corky at 2014-07-08 12:46 AM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

And some lefties wonder why Obama didn't get everything they wanted done.

Posted by Corky at 2014-07-08 12:46 AM | Reply

Sorry Corky but I expected Obama to have fought harder for we Liberals. After all we Liberals were the ones who championed his candidacy the hardest. It's why I voted for myself instead of him in 2012.

#25 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-07-08 12:59 AM | Reply | Flag:

Depending on what state you voted in, your vote could have helped elect Mitt had he won.

Just sayin'.

#26 | Posted by Corky at 2014-07-08 01:01 AM | Reply | Flag:

I'm in Kansas we are deeply red here. Sighhhhhhhhhh. BTW one should always vote for who they think will be best for the country NO MATTER what.

#27 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-07-08 01:07 AM | Reply | Flag:

Oh please do impeach GOP.

Buchanon is a religious nut, but he's sometimes right about things.

The GOP would be seen as the whiny losers they are if they tried to impeach and would push any presidential aspirations decades away.

#28 | Posted by drewl at 2014-07-08 08:41 AM | Reply | Flag:

Impeaching would be great. It would make people look up and ask what all the fuss is about.

#29 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2014-07-08 01:23 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Impeaching would be great. It would make people look up and ask what all the fuss is about."

But just think of all the hard drives that would unnecessarily meet their untimely demise.

Won't someone please think of the hard drives!!!

#30 | Posted by salamandagator at 2014-07-08 01:35 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

like the racism you two just demonstrated?

#20 | POSTED BY ICHIRO AT 2014-07-07 08:38 PM | REPLY | FLAG:AWWW NOW

They aren't racist they are just afraid of the neegrows. Just like they are afraid of the AAArabs. Just like they are afraid Eye-ranees.... and the commies... and the soshulist librulz.

Fact is everything scares those boys.

my guess is they have done some really bad things and are dreading the day for their come uppins.

L-O-S-E-R-S

#31 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2014-07-08 03:18 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Bad idea all around for three reasons:

1. Revolt / riots (after all, the Democrats are an emotional lot, God love 'em.
2. Biden - enough said
3. Bad for 2016 for the other parties

We just need to ride this out and look forward, not backwards

#17 | Posted by path

I have to say this one had me rolling. Just felt the need to reply...

1. Who's an emotional lot today? Right wingers... Of course lefties and other groups are too. But come on - Never seen so much hate as comes out of the right the past few years.
2. Biden - enough said
3. Parties? You mean bad for the GOP? Yep... They won't ever be able to impeach him.

#33 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2014-07-08 05:23 PM | Reply | Flag:

#31 | Posted by RightisTrite

I have to say this has been the message of the right for over a decade. They have doing their best to create fear - they succeeded too well even for the taste of Karl Rove who's idea it was in the first place. He thinks now it was a bad idea.

#34 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2014-07-08 05:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

I have to say this has been the message of the right for over a decade. They have doing their best to create fear - they succeeded too well even for the taste of Karl Rove who's idea it was in the first place. He thinks now it was a bad idea.

#34 | POSTED BY GALAXIEPETE AT 2014-07-08 05:26 PM | FLAG: YEPPERS

Actually it was a legacy left by the right wing buffoon Lee Atwater who poured the first ladle of clown poison into the political waters with his aggressive smear and smarm stratigies to get Reagan/Bush Elected by infusing the bible belt voters into the clown car. He was a vote getting machine with out ever considering the garbage he was creating. Karl Rove was an acolyte

listen to the master at work.

www.youtube.com

#35 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2014-07-08 08:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

.... The Real Mechanism of Democracy!

**** What Buchanan is plainly saying is "We'll PROTECT and Give IMMUNITY to Your Crooks...If You PROTECT and Give IMMUNITY to Our Crooks!!!

#36 | Posted by AntiCadillac at 2014-07-08 09:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

In his analysis of the June Labor Data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, John Williams (www.ShadowStats.com) wrote that the 288,000 June jobs and 6.1% unemployment rate are "far removed from common experience and underlying reality." Payrolls were overstated by "massive, hidden shifts in seasonal adjustments," and the Birth-Death model added the usual phantom jobs.

Williams reports that "the seasonal factors are changed each and every month as part of the concurrent seasonal-adjustment process, which is tantamount to a fraud," as the changes in the seasonal factors can inflate the jobs number. While the headline numbers always are on a new basis, the prior reporting is not revised so as to be consistent.
The monthly unemployment rates are not comparable, so one doesn't know whether the official U.3 rate (the headline rate that the financial press reports) went up or down.

I predicted this would come out, but the jobs report story is already gone.

#37 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-07-08 10:48 PM | Reply | Flag:

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