Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Friday, July 04, 2014

Employers added 288,000 jobs in June, significantly more than the 215,000 economists were anticipating. The unemployment rate, which is drawn from a different survey of households, dropped from 6.3% to 6.1% the lowest rate since September 2008. Immediately following the news the S& amp;amp;amp;P 500, The Dow Jones Industrial Average and Nasdaq Composite were in the green, continuing positive trends seen leading up to the pre-bell release. The Dow crossed 17,000 for the first time ever seconds after the opening bell before settling around 17,050.

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I love these early reports. You know, the ones that ignore the number of people that dropped out of the work force and ignore the number of part time jobs? The ones that haven't yet been revised downward?

#1 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2014-07-03 11:19 AM | Reply | Flag:

Predictable post Mustang. Do you have it stored in your computer so you can just paste it every month?
BTW, did you ever consider the number of people who you refer to as dropping out of the workforce who are actually retiring? Every month more than 250,000 Americans reach age 65.

#2 | Posted by danni at 2014-07-03 11:44 AM | Reply | Flag:

Good economic news is always spun as bad news by Republicans.

Wonder why that might be?

#3 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2014-07-03 11:53 AM | Reply | Flag:

OWS...that is simply not true in this case. I"m sure you didn't watch either fox network this morning so let me fill you in..

there were loud congratulations on the numbers but still mention of the facts of part time jobs lagging as well as the YEARS OLD RECORD number of people unemployed...when that was discussed, EVERY program and pundit had nothing but good things to say....

#4 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-07-03 12:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

should have said "AFTER" those two facts were discussed..

but if they had ignored those facts, they would be negligent in reporting the story....or you know...pulled a left wing media report..

#5 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-07-03 12:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

But the civilian workforce participation rate still at 36-year low of 62.8%.

Now for a reality check please look at the government's U-6 numbers.

#6 | Posted by MSgt at 2014-07-03 01:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

#3 | POSTED BY OLDWHISKEYSOUR

What did you have to say when the media was selling a Bush recession when none existed and the unemployment rate was a real 5.0%?

#7 | Posted by paneocon at 2014-07-03 01:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

Record Number of Americans Not in Labor Force in June
(CNSNews.com) - The number of Americans 16 and older who did not participate in the labor force climbed to a record high of 92,120,000 in June, according to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS).

This means that there were 92,120,000 Americans 16 and older who not only did not have a job, but did not actively seek one in the last four weeks.

That is up 111,000 from the 92,009,000 Americans who were not participating in the labor force in April.
cnsnews.com

A recovering economy will have a increase in the unemployment numbers as the work force participation numbers drop. In my opinion the economy is slowly improving and what we see in the job number is the continuing affect of Obama Care forcing employers to move people to part time.

#8 | Posted by paneocon at 2014-07-03 02:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

I was going to add some things but any thread manned by paneocon AND msgt is in good hands..

carry on...

#9 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-07-03 02:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

"The number of long-term unemployed (those jobless for 27 weeks or more) declined by 293,000 in June to 3.1 million; these individuals accounted for 32.8 percent of the unemployed. Over the past 12 months, the number of long-term unemployed has decreased by 1.2 million. (See table A-12.)"

www.bls.gov

"This means that there were 92,120,000 Americans 16 and older who not only did not have a job, but did not actively seek one in the last four weeks."

Completely meaningless statistic without a breakout of how many of those people are disabled, retired, in school, stay at home moms or dads, etc.

#10 | Posted by danni at 2014-07-03 02:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

Head meet sand

#11 | Posted by paneocon at 2014-07-03 02:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

Terrible news. Between this and the stock market hitting 17,000, it is shaping up to be a very grim 4th of July weekend.

The Right

#12 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2014-07-03 04:40 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 5

Wow... Danni beat Boaz to the monthly "world is ending" financial report thread?

#13 | Posted by REDIAL at 2014-07-03 05:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

Thank you President Bush! :-)

#14 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2014-07-03 05:31 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

Conservatives are pissed they failed to totally sabotage this president. In reality everyone knows economies have cycles and combine that with free money from the fed and economic good news is unavoidable. The long term good news would have come in the form of infrastructure development and education. Two things the cave man party staunchly oppose. The GOP and conservative voters are the cancer within and are treasonous.Sabotaging the country to stick it to Obama is treason.

#15 | Posted by ron81 at 2014-07-03 06:02 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Righties have very short memories. In the final days of the Bush-Cheney-GOP recession, the USA was hemorrhaging 700,000+ jobs every month. Now we have had 40+ months of private sector job growth. Along with a reduction of 700,000 public sector jobs. (something that the conservatives have been calling for 75 years)

#16 | Posted by SammyAZ_RI at 2014-07-03 06:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

#16 | POSTED BY SAMMYAZ_RI

Liberals have such short memories, odd that just 6 months ago extended unemployment benefits ended and the chicken little democrats told us the sky would fall. Just one more example of conservatives being right and liberals being drama queens.

#17 | Posted by paneocon at 2014-07-03 06:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

Terrible news. Between this and the stock market hitting 17,000, it is shaping up to be a very grim 4th of July weekend.

The Right

#12 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2

again....another lefty with no clue...I'm going to assume you were working but I watched both fox networks off and on and heard BOTH Sides of the issue but in every case I heard the same sentence on both counts'

"good news for America".....

so I know you were making a joke, but it's just not happening this way..

#18 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-07-03 07:07 PM | Reply | Flag:

Quadrillions are being gambled on the Chicago derivatives market. This will eventually blow up our $16 trillion economy AGAIN.

#19 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-07-03 07:33 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

"Liberals have such short memories, odd that just 6 months ago extended unemployment benefits ended and the chicken little democrats told us the sky would fall"

It did for thousands of families and individuals.

#20 | Posted by danni at 2014-07-03 07:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

Honest experts will soon dissect these numbers, which are designed to mislead the public. Actual economic growth for the first six months of 2014 was originally reported by BLS as 2.9%, then corrected to 1%, then -1%, but actual growth this year has been -2.9%. On and on the lying goes.

#21 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-07-03 08:25 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

It takes an increase of 250,000 jobs just to keep up with population growth. The unemployment figure is a snare and a delusion. It doesn't count those who are no longer looking for a job. 92 million not working of the age group who work.

#22 | Posted by Donald at 2014-07-03 09:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

Job creation is good, but the skeptic in me wants to know the following: How many jobs were lost? How many of these jobs were full/part time? How many of the people filling these jobs already have 1+ jobs?

#23 | Posted by mariosanchez at 2014-07-04 12:03 AM | Reply | Flag:

#17 | POSTED BY PANEOCON AT 2014-07-03 06:51 PM | FLAG: DUMBSTRUCK BY GOOD NEWS WENT IN TO AUTO PILOT

#18 | POSTED BY AFKABL2 AT 2014-07-03 07:07 PM | REPLY | FLAG:DINING ON SOUR GRAPES

You two are just like the righty tighty numbskulls you put into office who've spent the last 3.5 years trying to over turn a done deal... You go on and on about the same old stuff long after it's expirey date as the world passes you by. Obama has managed to change things without the "brilliance" congress is supposed to add to the mix. So busy obstructing they didn't have the time to actually progress forward. You function is some weird sort of political stasis and seemed shocked when no one wants to stagnate with you.

L-O-S-E-R-S

#24 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2014-07-04 02:01 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

#19 | POSTED BY NUTCASE

Correction: global derivatives market

#25 | Posted by paneocon at 2014-07-04 10:45 AM | Reply | Flag:

"92 million not working of the age group who work."

There is that meaningless number again. HOw many of those folks are retired? How many in school? How many disabled? How many don't work because they don't need to work.

As I posted above: "Over the past 12 months, the number of long-term unemployed has decreased by 1.2 million. (See table A-12.)"

Now, consider that against the FACT that in the last few months of the Bush Presidency we were losing 750,000 jobs per month.

#26 | Posted by danni at 2014-07-04 11:18 AM | Reply | Flag:

" So busy obstructing they didn't have the time to actually progress forward. "

And the same folks who hate Obama so much will cheer for and vote for the people who are hurting their own constituents' chances for jobs, raises, decent futures.
Some folks allow their hatred to blind them to the reality they actually live in.

#27 | Posted by danni at 2014-07-04 11:21 AM | Reply | Flag:

You two are just like the righty tighty numbskulls you put into office who've spent the last 3.5 years trying to over turn a done deal... You go on and on about the same old stuff long after it's expirey date as the world passes you by. Obama has managed to change things without the "brilliance" congress is supposed to add to the mix. So busy obstructing they didn't have the time to actually progress forward. You function is some weird sort of political stasis and seemed shocked when no one wants to stagnate with you.

L-O-S-E-R-S

#24 | Posted by RightisTrite at 20

you really are a treasure....and you MUST always have a place here or in any public discourse because you are a monument to the obama liberal support team.

and this goes to Danni as well....this harping on 'do nothing congress' and gop obstruction baloney has really run it's course and has become boring....we need some faster way of saying the same thing we always have....THE TRUTH........bill after bill passed the house only to be discarded at reids desk and you say NOTHING because you don't care and that goes against the democrat talking crud you two are repeating...

THIS 'done deal' you refer to...is that the 'settled law' that obama has changed 36 times each time in direct conflict with the constitution and separation of powers ??
that same law that was passed because the potus LIED EVERY TIME HE OPENED HIS MOUTH ? and I know he lied because of my own personal business....so don't EVEN try and dispute that...

as to the other liberal slobbering such as how obama has 'fixed things'....really ?? That's such a bizarre statement filled with lies and misstatements that I simply don't have time to even start....so in THIS case, let's just look at what I normally don't put a lot of credit in but they are SO bad SO often...POLLS might tell a different story.

#28 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-07-04 11:52 AM | Reply | Flag:

"bill after bill passed the house only to be discarded at reids desk and you say NOTHING because you don't care and that goes against the democrat talking crud you two are repeating..."

Bill after bill that were unacceptable to most Americans while John Boehner prevents bills that have passed the Senate from being taken up by the HOuse, bills most Americans actually do approve of....like immigration reform.
And that isn't even counting the many, many bills filibustered in the Senate.
The Republicans have created the most obstructionist Congress in history and it is seriously hurting the country.

Have you heard the latest insanity, now these freaking idiots are wanting to end the Export-Import Bank of the United States. This bank is self-funding and greatly facilitates and increase the amount of goods we export but the STUPID Tea Partiers want to end it because of some crazy ideological nonsense. In truth most of these idiots don't even know what it does, who pays for it or anything else about it...but they're against it because their lunatic leaders tell the sheep to bleat against it. Can't wait for AFKBL2's brilliant reasoning for that. I need a good laugh.

#29 | Posted by danni at 2014-07-04 12:04 PM | Reply | Flag:

We'll I wonder how many of the Clive Bundy militia nuts are employed, my guess that number is hovering around 0%.

Reasons: They are either too lazy or too stupid to get hired or hold a job for any length of time.

#30 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2014-07-04 03:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

Read this and be happu o'bummer.

www.huffingtonpost.com

#31 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-07-04 06:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

Good economic news is always spun as bad news by Republicans.

Wonder why that might be?

#3 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour

Read #31 old. You will love it.

#32 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-07-04 06:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

The repugs fouling this thread preferred those heady days when the economy was shedding 700,000 jobs per month on Dumya's watch.

#33 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2014-07-04 08:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

I've noticed that threads such as these usually invoke one of two retorts from the righties that post on this site:

1. Most of the new job growth under Obama is from part-time jobs.
2. Most of the new jobs are created in Texas

Where are the intellectually honest ones to say, "Most of the new jobs created in Texas are part-time jobs?"

#34 | Posted by DCTexan at 2014-07-05 01:59 AM | Reply | Flag:

Where are the intellectually honest ones to say, "Most of the new jobs created in Texas are part-time jobs?"

That's a pretty good question.

#35 | Posted by REDIAL at 2014-07-05 02:58 AM | Reply | Flag:

Where are the intellectually honest ones to say, "Most of the new jobs created in Texas are part-time jobs?
#34 | POSTED BY DCTEXAN

Where are the intellectually honest ones to say, and this is due to the affects of Obamacare!

#36 | Posted by paneocon at 2014-07-05 07:16 AM | Reply | Flag:

Where are the intellectually honest ones to say, This is better than the rest of the country?

#37 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-07-05 10:12 AM | Reply | Flag:

The South is a divided land, with rampant poverty, just the way the rich Conservatives like it, because they hate sharing.

#38 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-07-05 10:26 AM | Reply | Flag:

The South is a divided land, with rampant poverty, just the way the rich Conservatives like it, because they hate sharing.

#38 | Posted by nutcase

As bad as detroit? Naaaaaa.

#39 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-07-05 10:42 AM | Reply | Flag:

Is the Left actually counting Part-Time Minumun Wage (Not Living Wage) as Jobs???? Wow funny how definitions change, and what becomes acceptable to make Partisans look good

#40 | Posted by cmbell73 at 2014-07-05 11:15 AM | Reply | Flag:

Wake me up when 70%+ "new" jobs are not parttime...

#41 | Posted by boaz at 2014-07-05 12:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Wake me up when 70%+ "new" jobs are not parttime..."

Wake me up when Republicans have done anything to make that happen. I don't care how tiny their effort is, it will be worth waking up to witness any infinitesimally small effort on their part or even less, if they just allow the Democrats to pass one tiny bill designed to accomplish what you claim to want....but don't really because you really aren't interested in making things better you're really only concerned with your team winning the game.

#42 | Posted by danni at 2014-07-05 12:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

Wake me up when Republicans have done anything to make that happen. I don't care how tiny their effort is, it will be worth waking up to witness any infinitesimally small effort on their part or even less, if they just allow the Democrats to pass one tiny bill designed to accomplish what you claim to want....but don't really because you really aren't interested in making things better you're really only concerned with your team winning the game.

Posted by danni at 2014-07-05 12:14 PM | Reply

They are way too busy hating on Obama to actually do their jobs.

#43 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-07-05 12:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

Is the Left actually counting Part-Time Minumun Wage (Not Living Wage) as Jobs???? Wow funny how definitions change, and what becomes acceptable to make Partisans look good

#40 | Posted by cmbell73

I do remember that during the Bush admin, the libs cried 'the new jobs arn't well paying'. Seems the libs have very short memories.

#44 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-07-05 01:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

Let's look at the Bureau of Labor Statistics data.

During the Bush presidency, net total employment went up by 1.08 million jobs. So far, during the Obama presidency, total employment has been reduced by 3.3 million jobs.

Under Bush, private employment shrank by 673,000 jobs, federal employment grew by 50,000 jobs, and government employment grew by 1,753,000 jobs.

Under Obama, the private sector has shed some 2.9 million jobs while the federal government has grown by 40,000 (after growing massively, the federal workforce shrank throughout the summer). Total government jobs, however, shrank by 357,000 jobs, mainly because of cuts at the state and local levels.

#45 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-07-05 01:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

I do remember that during the Bush admin, the libs cried 'the new jobs arn't well paying'. Seems the libs have very short memories.

I remember that the repugs were strangely silent when 8.7 million jobs were lost during Dumya's great recession.

#46 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2014-07-05 01:11 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

YEah Sniper, good luck with all that. People really have forgotten who was President when the economy collapsed. Riiiight! Hilarious!

#47 | Posted by danni at 2014-07-05 01:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

"I do remember that during the Bush admin, the libs cried 'the new jobs arn't well paying'. Seems the libs have very short memories."

Do you remember us telling you that the "great Bush economy" was a house of cards on the verge of collapse? Better question, will you admit that you remember that? I know you remember but believe you are too dishonest to ever admit it, even to yourself.

#48 | Posted by danni at 2014-07-05 01:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

Let's look at the Bureau of Labor Statistics data.

During the Bush presidency, net total employment went up by 1.08 million jobs. So far, during the Obama presidency, total employment has been reduced by 3.3 million jobs.

Under Bush, private employment shrank by 673,000 jobs, federal employment grew by 50,000 jobs, and government employment grew by 1,753,000 jobs.

Under Obama, the private sector has shed some 2.9 million jobs while the federal government has grown by 40,000 (after growing massively, the federal workforce shrank throughout the summer). Total government jobs, however, shrank by 357,000 jobs, mainly because of cuts at the state and local levels.

#45 | Posted by Sniper

Snippy, you might want use something a little more current than an NRO article from 2010.

www.nationalreview.com

#49 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2014-07-05 01:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

Deflect all you want.... But you are still counting Part-Time, Non-Living Wage as Job..... Now Deflect Again, or say this Article is BS

#50 | Posted by cmbell73 at 2014-07-05 02:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

Rightwing hack, prove that the article is BS or stfu.

#51 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2014-07-05 02:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

Thin skinned huh??? You must be a Partisan... To even go against your own beliefs to say, that these jobs created are Full-Time Living Wage is Laughable

#52 | Posted by cmbell73 at 2014-07-05 02:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

If you haven't looked around lately, our economy has been ruduced to looking at Mc Ds and Walmart for Living Wage jobs

#53 | Posted by cmbell73 at 2014-07-05 02:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

Where's your proof that the article is BS?

#54 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2014-07-05 02:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

Um, by the definition of a Job, the Article seems to say that Part-Time Non-Living Wage is a job... And I posted several times that many here believe they are "Not Jobs"..... Or have you Not been reading my post

#55 | Posted by cmbell73 at 2014-07-05 03:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

In other words, you have no proof that the article is BS. I read you loud and clear. BTW, the partisans over at the WSJ are reporting that 58% of the jobs created in 2014 pay more than $24 an hour.

live.wsj.com!D99B6989-6D6C-4F81-B2E6- 9CBF1AC4D364

#56 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2014-07-05 03:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

58% of 288,000 is 167,000 of actual Living Wage Jobs... Doesn't sound as grand eh???

#57 | Posted by cmbell73 at 2014-07-05 03:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

58% of 288,000 is 167,000 of actual Living Wage Jobs... Doesn't sound as grand eh???

So, you prefer the sound of 8.7 million jobs disappearing... that figures.

#58 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2014-07-05 03:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

That number of jobs is not the kind of jobs that can buy a home or a car. Those new jobs are the ones where two people, with a kid or two making 10 dollars an hour can scratch together 40 thousand dollars, which after taxes and deduction is too much for many aid programs and not enough to get any credit at reasonable rates. These are the jobs for non-criminal, college graduates, who probably have to make a combined student loan payment of 600 dollars per month. Hell, their monthly living "nut" is probably close to ninety percent of their combined income. Maybe, if they curtail their eating habits, they could rustle up three to five thousand dollars for frivolities. It is truly a great time to be an American. Happy 4th of July, and may Her Noodliness bless us, every one!

#59 | Posted by RoyaltyBatty at 2014-07-05 04:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

#58 | POSTED BY REINHEITSGEBOT AT 2014-07-05 03:47 PM | FLAG:

If its not a true definition of a Living Wage Job, Yes. Because its a lie... If you want to lie to yourself to advance your Political Agenda, that on you. Just don't expect everyone else to believe it

#60 | Posted by cmbell73 at 2014-07-05 04:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

Once you face that the Babyboomers destroyed this Nation by shipping off Manufacturing/ High End Paying Jobs Overseas, Ran Up Enormous Debt, and Eliminating the Middle Class... Then Your Partisan Glasses will be of no use Anymore..... Til then keep drinking the Koolaid

#61 | Posted by cmbell73 at 2014-07-05 04:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

If its not a true definition of a Living Wage Job, Yes. Because its a lie... If you want to lie to yourself to advance your Political Agenda, that on you. Just don't expect everyone else to believe it

Posted by cmbell73 at 2014-07-05 04:30 PM | Reply

Isn't it interesting that the Conservatives are NOW so interested in a Living Wage. They only care now because Obama is President. When Dubya was President not so much. Funny dat be in triplicate spades.

#62 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-07-05 04:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

YEah Sniper, good luck with all that. People really have forgotten who was President when the economy collapsed. Riiiight! Hilarious!

#47 | Posted by danni

And it has gone nowhere in the last 6 years.

Yhat brought it down ddan?

#63 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-07-05 04:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

#62 | POSTED BY LARRYMOHR AT 2014-07-05 04:42 PM | FLAG:

Larry, I'm interested in Partisans remaining true to their definition of Jobs... If you believe that a "Real Job" is a Full-Time Living Wage Job.... Then either Deflect Again, or call the Article BS... Really it's that simple

#64 | Posted by cmbell73 at 2014-07-05 04:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

Snippy, you might want use something a little more current than an NRO article from 2010.

www.nationalreview.com

#49 | Posted by reinheitsgebot

I guess you are calling the BLS a bunch of liers?

#65 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-07-05 04:57 PM | Reply | Flag:

If you believe that a "Real Job" is a Full-Time Living Wage Job.... Then either Deflect Again, or call the Article BS... Really it's that simple.

#64 | Posted by cmbell

You still haven't provided a shred of evidence that the article is BS. Why is that?

#66 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2014-07-05 05:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

Oh this.... "Perhaps the only disappointment might be that average hourly earnings growth remains subdued," wrote RBS' Sharif. The workweek was steady at 34.5 hours.

You know Under-Paid, Under-Work Jobs... Translation: Part-Time Non Living Wage.... Seems like we are going in circles because you're drunk on Partisan Koolaid

#67 | Posted by cmbell73 at 2014-07-05 05:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

When are you going to declare what a 'Living Wage Job' is so that the BLS can stop putting out BS numbers?

#68 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2014-07-05 05:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

#68 | POSTED BY REINHEITSGEBOT AT 2014-07-05 05:20 PM | REPLY |

That's not on me, I'm just merely just point out this article is BS in Partisan standards, and should not be taken seriously.... You are the one betrays his own beliefs, so declare this Article BS, and look for statistics that tell the truth

#69 | Posted by cmbell73 at 2014-07-05 05:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

Know this the true statistic you seek maybe disappointing

#70 | Posted by cmbell73 at 2014-07-05 05:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

That's not on me, I'm just merely just point out this article is BS in Partisan standards, and should not be taken seriously....

Yes it is on you, you keep spouting that the article is BS and yet you can't produce any evidence to bolster your claim.

#71 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2014-07-05 05:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

www.measuringworth.com

Current data is only available till 2013. In 2013, the relative worth of $0.75 from 1950 is:
$7.26 using the Consumer Price Index
$5.82 using the GDP deflator
$11.30 using the unskilled wage
$13.50 using the Production Worker Compensation
$20.10 using the nominal GDP per capita
$42.00 using the relative share of GDP

I would say 11.30 Minimum wage

#72 | Posted by LarryMohr at 2014-07-05 05:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

#71 | POSTED BY REINHEITSGEBOT AT 2014-07-05 05:33 PM | FLAG:

Why do you accept Partisan defined Poverty Wages as a Real Job??? When you stated yourself that 58% of jobs created are "Living Wage Jobs"... Yet this Article fluffs the numbers by your percentage, and then the Article itself state that there has been no growth in Wages or Hourly increases...

If you can't read and comprehend this article or this conversation, and all my points... Then I can't help you. You simply have a learning disorder

#73 | Posted by cmbell73 at 2014-07-05 05:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

When you stated yourself that 58% of jobs created are "Living Wage Jobs"...

It's obvious that you have reading comprehension problems. Where did I say that 58% of jobs being created were 'Living Wage Jobs"?

#74 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2014-07-05 05:57 PM | Reply | Flag:

Obama's fault!
Oh wait...

G.O.P. = geriatric old
people

G.O.P. = gonna obstruct
President

G.O.P. = got zero points
(to make)

#75 | Posted by earthmuse at 2014-07-05 06:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

Go through and re-read your own post, I'm sure you will find your 58%

#76 | Posted by cmbell73 at 2014-07-05 06:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

58% of jobs created in 2014 paid more than $24/hr. No mention whatsoever of living wage job. Do you EVER get anything right?

#77 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2014-07-05 06:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Where are the intellectually honest ones to say, and this is due to the affects of Obamacare!"

The intellectually honest among us know that Obamacare is helping the economy:

www.forbes.com

m.us.wsj.com

www.latimes.com

thebea.st

#78 | Posted by DCTexan at 2014-07-05 10:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

Fracking, continuing to help hide other problems....

#79 | Posted by USAF242 at 2014-07-06 08:31 AM | Reply | Flag:

snipe,

Detroit has been savaged by Capitalist pigs, that even include the Koch Bros. The Koch Bros have made it a dumping ground for Canadian Tar Sands waste. In keeping with traditions in West Virginia, they keep the stuff close to our water supply, to save money and impose the highest risks of the neighborhood.

#80 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-07-06 09:19 AM | Reply | Flag:

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