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Wednesday, July 02, 2014

Rep. Jim Bridenstine, R-Tulsa, said he was denied access Tuesday to the Fort Sill facility housing unaccompanied minors who have illegally crossed the U.S. border. Bridenstine made an impromptu visit to the Health and Human Services Department facility at the U.S. Army post in southwestern Oklahoma and was told he couldn't enter and should email an HHS official to make an appointment. He was told July 21 would be the earliest date he could visit. Gov. Mary Fallin and Sen. Jim Inhofe, R-Tulsa, visited the facility on June 20. Bridenstine said, "There is no excuse for denying a federal representative from Oklahoma access to a federal facility in Oklahoma where unaccompanied children are being held. Any member of Congress should have the legal authority to visit a federal youth detention facility without waiting three weeks."

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A gag order on Doctors and nurses and now a U.S. Congressman can't enter a Army base? You damn Democrats have succeeded in turning America into a banana republic.

#1 | Posted by paneocon at 2014-07-02 04:03 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

guard with a security unit which calls itself the "Brown Shirts" WTF

#2 | Posted by paneocon at 2014-07-02 04:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

All this brought to you by the worst president in 70 years.

#3 | Posted by sawdust at 2014-07-02 04:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

Maybe this was Obama being honest for once.
Obama Civilian Security
www.usphs.gov

#4 | Posted by paneocon at 2014-07-02 04:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

Why would a Congressman show up unannounced when he has a staff that could have arranged the visit in advance? It sounds to me like Bridenstine wanted something to complain about more than he wanted an actual visit.

Just because someone is a member of Congress doesn't mean they can make surprise visits to high security environments such as a detention facility for immigrants and expect to be let right in. That would be a security risk. It's not like secure facilities would have established procedures to deal with Congress members showing up unannounced at random times.

But having said all that, I hope he gets his visit and other members of Congress do too. This is an ongoing humanitarian crisis putting thousands of children at risk.

#5 | Posted by rcade at 2014-07-02 05:24 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

HHS official, he was told he would have to schedule a formal visit for July 21.

#6 | Posted by paneocon at 2014-07-02 05:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

Congressman Bridenstine Denied Access to UAC Housing at Ft. Sill
Congressman Bridenstine said, "There is no excuse for denying a Federal Representative from Oklahoma access to a federal facility in Oklahoma where unaccompanied children are being held. Any Member of Congress should have the legal authority to visit a federal youth detention facility without waiting three weeks."

The Health and Human Services (HHS) official who appears to be in charge of the facility told Congressman Bridenstine he could schedule an appointment for July 21. HHS Deputy Director of the Office of Public Affairs, Ken Wolfe, would not take the Congressman's phone call. The Congressman was told to send Mr. Wolfe an email as that was the preferred method of communication. Congressman Bridenstine's email to Mr. Wolfe included this press release.

"What are they trying to hide? Do they not want the children to speak with Members of Congress?

bridenstine.house.gov

Yes, what are they trying to hide?

#7 | Posted by paneocon at 2014-07-02 05:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

HHS official, he was told he would have to schedule a formal visit for July 21.

#6 | POSTED BY PANEOCON

That's 3 weeks away. Clearly, they are hiding something.

Just because someone is a member of Congress doesn't mean they can make surprise visits to high security environments such as a detention facility for immigrants and expect to be let right in.

It's not "high security"? It's not like the DOJ regards these children as criminals, or that by somehow going in this congressman is compromising national security.

IMO, they are trying to keep the public blind to this for political reasons.

#8 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-07-02 06:03 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

'High security environments' just for illegal children - sounds fishy to me. Guess they are considered very dangerous, hum? Actually showing up no notice, like the IG teams in the military is how you find out what is really happening as it allows no time to prepare a facade. The fact that the Representative was not admitted speaks volumes about this [not so] transparent administration.

#9 | Posted by MSgt at 2014-07-02 06:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

'High security environments' just for illegal children - sounds fishy to me.

It's an illegal immigrant detention facility. If it wasn't a high security environment, your side would be complaining because all the future Americans would escape.

#10 | Posted by rcade at 2014-07-02 07:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

It's an illegal immigrant detention facility.

They are not going to be deported and the DOJ doesn't regard their entry as illegal.

There is nothing 'high security' about the place.

#11 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-07-02 07:30 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

It's an illegal immigrant detention facility.

Processed, released and not seen again. www.drudge.com

#12 | Posted by et_al at 2014-07-02 08:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

Isn't this a separation of powers issue? AFAIK, HHS is part of the executive branch. They have every right to tell Congress to go f themselves, don't they?

#13 | Posted by DoofusOfDeath at 2014-07-02 09:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

""We have been facilitating tours of our temporary shelters at Joint Base San Antonio-Lackland, Naval Base Ventura County-Port Hueneme and Fort Sill as frequently as possible without disrupting our ability to properly care for the children as part of this humanitarian situation.

"In addition to four media tours, HHS has provided five tours for approximately 55 local, state and federal elected officials who had requested the opportunity to observe the facilities, meet the staff and interact with the children.

"We will continue to schedule these tours of temporary shelters on a regular basis with any officials who request them."

Some folks see a crisis and think it is an opportunity for grandstanding. All the Congressman needs to do is go along with one of their tours but no, he wants overworked and overwhelmed staff to take him on a special, individual tour, so that he can go back to Washington and tell the nation that we are somehow inviting these kids here. What the kids say though is disregarded; that the gangs make life impossible unless you join. These kids refused to join. We should welcome them. Their character is already shown to be superior to many American citizens. Who knows a 13 year old brave enough to travel from central America, all the way to Texas, to avoid joining a gang? These are probably people we actually do want to be Americans. Stop hating for a minute and consider these are the kids who risked everything to avoit being a member of a gang. Think about that.

#14 | Posted by danni at 2014-07-02 10:13 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

"Processed, released and not seen again."

If they commit a crime and get caught they will be seen again and they well know that so they don't, for the most part, commit crimes. Every one of them is as deserving of the freedoms of this nation as you are.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, all men are created equal...."

Either you believe that or you don't.

#15 | Posted by danni at 2014-07-02 10:17 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

Aren't you all the same a**es who bitch and moan when a Dem member of Congress acts all high and mighty and above the rules? Let this dude get in line with everyone else.

#16 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2014-07-02 11:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

Enter stage left "The United Nations."

#17 | Posted by Notafan at 2014-07-02 11:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

Either you believe that or you don't.

Apparently, some are more equal to break the law than others, in a nation of laws. Why?

"Ok, as a condition of release you have to appear at a hearing at ten in the morning, be there."

"Sure, I'll be there."

No show by that person who may or may not qualify to stay according to law, that's what the hearing is about. Oh well, maybe they will be caught in the future if not so what. They just broke a little law, apart from being flat out dishonest. Danni seems to think that person is as equal as someone who obeys the law and shows. "[T]hat among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." Of course, it is axiomatic that violating the law can result in loss of Liberty. Did you forget that part of the sentence or just choose to ignore it because it fits your agenda?

#18 | Posted by et_al at 2014-07-03 12:34 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

That's 3 weeks away. Clearly, they are hiding something.

Or maybe that's how long it will take to treat them for the scary diseases Afk posted about...

Desperation. It stinks.

#19 | Posted by jpw at 2014-07-03 01:30 AM | Reply | Flag:

It's an illegal immigrant detention facility.

Processed, released and not seen again.

I have trouble believing these are arbitrary.

If many cases are like those in the video, they obviously knew where they were going before they entered (who crosses and dreams of the land of Ohio?).

Much like many of our other problems, this is the culmination of years of kicking a problematic can down the road.

#20 | Posted by jpw at 2014-07-03 01:44 AM | Reply | Flag:

guard with a security unit which calls itself the "Brown Shirts" WTF

#2 | Posted by paneocon

The democrat government working for you. His campaign statement of having a civilian force larger than the military and better equiped is comming true.

#21 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-07-03 10:17 AM | Reply | Flag:

Barack Obama's campaign about a statement he made July 2 in Colorado Springs, Colo. -- a statement that blew my mind and has had me scratching my head ever since.

In talking about his plans to double the size of the Peace Corps and nearly quadruple the size of AmeriCorps, he made this rather shocking (and chilling) pledge: "We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

#22 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-07-03 10:20 AM | Reply | Flag:

On one hand we are told it's a "high risk security" situation and then lefties turn around and say "why are you scared of kids". It's either a serious situation that needs some outside eyes or it's nothing to worry about.

#23 | Posted by Dalton at 2014-07-03 10:36 AM | Reply | Flag:

The ruling elete have spoken, it's both.

"high risk security" situation and then lefties turn around and say "why are you scared of kids".

#24 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-07-03 10:56 AM | Reply | Flag:

Why would a Congressman show up unannounced when he has a staff that could have arranged the visit in advance?

He's representing the American people. Why does he or the American people have to wait three weeks? What takes three weeks? That's a load of crap RCADE and you know it.

I can understand maybe a day wait, but three weeks?

#25 | Posted by boaz at 2014-07-03 11:03 AM | Reply | Flag:

Let's be nice now and don't all rush to judgment. We don't know what was going through his mind. Maybe he just wanted to look them over in case he decided to adopt 10 or a dozen sometime down the road ~ or maybe set of up a college fund for a couple that looked exceptionally bright.

Yeah, sure ~ LOL

I understand why the detention facility needs to be strict about willy-nilly visitors. Otherwise, they'd have every rubbernecking politician in the country wondering around Ft. Sill, disrupting the orderly care of the children and probably scaring the wits out of them with their gawking and stupid questions.

Remember, these are kids. Every stranger that comes in there probably looks like a "federali"(sp) to them.

#26 | Posted by Twinpac at 2014-07-03 12:07 PM | Reply | Flag:

You damn Democrats have succeeded in turning America into a banana republic.

#1 | Posted by paneocon

I know huh? Why hasn't that Obama done something?

Oh wait... he has.

Congress has failed to do it's job. Democrats AND Republicans. But there will be NO immigration reform if Republicans continue to refuse to compromise.

#27 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-07-03 12:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

Processed, released and not seen again. www.drudge.com

#12 | Posted by et_al

Until election time...amIright?

But, it is true... they are released into America.

A direct result of a lack of immigration reform.

Congratulations to Republicans for blocking it again.

#28 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-07-03 01:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

Nothing in the Senate immigration reform would address the current flood of children coming from south america.

#29 | Posted by Dalton at 2014-07-03 01:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

JPW is correct. 3 weeks is the quarantine period for contagious diseases. They should have let this rubber-necking politician in to get his dose.

#30 | Posted by Prolix247 at 2014-07-03 02:44 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

3 weeks is the quarantine period for contagious diseases.
#30 | POSTED BY PROLIX247

Which completely explains why HHS is busing the little plague bombs all over the US! Next deflection please?

#31 | Posted by paneocon at 2014-07-03 03:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

"JPW is correct. 3 weeks is the quarantine period for contagious diseases."

Searching and searching for a good excuse, they just found one. Now you'll see this used over and over again as the reason he couldn't enter. Never mind that they never said this to him when he tried to get in.

It reminds me of the "If you like your health plan you can keep it" story. When they all were caught in a bald face lie they started saying that the old plans were crap and that's why they HAD to be replaced.

#32 | Posted by sames1 at 2014-07-03 03:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

Nothing in the Senate immigration reform would address the current flood of children coming from south america.

#29 | Posted by Dalton

Nothing?

The bill makes enormous investments in border security, including the following: deploying at least 38,405 full-time Border Patrol agents along the southern border (including an additional 19,200 more than currently in place); mandating an electronic exit system at all ports where Customs and Border Protection agents are deployed; constructing at least 700 miles of fencing, including double fencing; increasing mobile surveillance; deploying aircraft and radio communications; constructing additional Border Patrol stations and operating bases; hiring additional prosecutors, judges, and staff; providing additional training to border officers; and increasing prosecutions of illegal border crossings.

#33 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-07-03 03:15 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Apparently, some are more equal to break the law than others, in a nation of laws. Why?

Good question.

First let me remind you Counselor that entering the country illegally is considered a federal misdemeanor, simply lacking legal immigration status is a CIVIL violation.

Also let me remind you that these women and children are refugees fleeing violence gangs and grinding poverty. So they are choosing one bad course of action over another bad choice.

If that is so what makes one civil infraction more heinous than another?

Do you agree that there are times when Civil Disobedience is justified? Especially when ones own life may ultimately be in danger?

Why are we not pursuing illegal employers as fiercely as you want to pursue illegal immigrants? Their lives are not in danger when THEY break the law and it is a CRIMINAL offense.

The folks who blocked the buses were a engaged in a civil infraction. But the difference being their lives were NOT in any danger. So why weren't the people who blocked the bus in California (illegally) arrested and "processed".

These people fleeing to America are human beings and deserve the same due process just like anyone else already in America.

You don't like the current immigration law.

Change it.

#34 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-07-03 03:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

They probably refused to let the Congressman in when they found he was carrying several pairs of handcuffs and a jumbo bottle of KY.

#35 | Posted by Rincewind at 2014-07-03 04:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

These people fleeing to America are human beings and deserve the same due process just like anyone else already in America.

Due process implies participation in that process. No show for that process is not civil disobedience. It is simply flaunting the due process available to all. Something you seem to excuse. That problem requires no change in immigration law. For other reasons immigration reform certainly needs to be done.

#36 | Posted by et_al at 2014-07-03 04:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

That problem requires no change in immigration law. For other reasons immigration reform certainly needs to be done.

#36 | Posted by et_al

It certainly does. If not showing up for court is such a problem. Process them immediately at the holding facilities. But, first you will have to fund the upgrades the holding facilities and get them legal counseling and change the law to hold them. Immigration law has to be changed in order to allow the US to speed up the processing.

And I do not excuse it. Just reminding you that that it is the current immigration law that is defective and contributing to the problem.

Civil Disobedience also has the added effect of drawing attention to the problem and holding the government accountable.

#37 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-07-03 04:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

The 3 weeks quarantine goes back to maritime law. There is your clue.

#38 | Posted by Prolix247 at 2014-07-03 05:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

The 3 weeks quarantine goes back to maritime law. There is your clue.

#39 | Posted by Prolix247 at 2014-07-03 05:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

The only story about illegall immigrant children is put forth as fabrication for political purposes by Democrats and MSM, and not about reality.

#40 | Posted by Robson at 2014-07-03 09:13 PM | Reply | Flag:

Hmmm, if three weeks is the law, why was a California Congressman allowed to visit?

Imperial Valley News

#41 | Posted by sawdust at 2014-07-03 10:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

Immigration law needs enforced against employers and sanctuary cities and that would eliminate the carrot the entices millions of them to come here for economic reasons. Eliminate the carrot and they will go home.

Those that come here allegedly for sanctuary because of violence or fear in their homeland need processed. The problem is this all takes federal money, and in a nation where the government says it doesn't have enough money for obligations to vets and citizens and infrastructure this issue is seen as a major conflict.

#42 | Posted by Robson at 2014-07-04 06:38 AM | Reply | Flag:

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