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Hobby Lobby Still Covers Vasectomies And Viagra

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So much for religious principles

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When will you learn that men's health issues are the only ones that matter?

#1 | Posted by 726 at 2014-07-01 07:59 AM | Reply | Flag:

Viagra is fine since it helps in procreation as the article admits.

Covering vasectomies while arguing that it is against their religious principals to cover IUD is insane.

BTW would love to see the wording on Viagra usually that is a tier 3 drug and that means under most plans you pay 50%. So covered but just barely.

#2 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2014-07-01 08:11 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Covering vasectomies while arguing that it is against their religious principals to cover IUD is insane."

They did not have an issue with birth control just certain kinds of it they considered to be tantamount to abortion. There is no hypocrisy there even if i think they are scientifically wrong.

The most disturbing thing about this is that there are some who want this so desperately to be a sexism issue that they push and push so hard to fool people into thinking it is. We all know there are plenty of those kinds of people out there but what is startling is that there are those that actually buy into it. Apparently sexism is alive and well and there is a large percentage of Americans who think women are lessor creatures then men and need special protections.

#3 | Posted by salamandagator at 2014-07-01 11:46 AM | Reply | Flag:

they cover 16 of the 20 contraceptive forms that are being EXTORTED out of them by obamacare....I would think you would like that...

did you also know they just raised their minimum wage to 14 bucks for full time and almost 10 for part time...no of course you didn't...that's not in the left wing zealots' assault plan to have you know things like that..

#4 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-07-01 12:04 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

and SURELY all the smart leftist here understand this ruling was based on a law signed by the white trash ex pres in 1993....right????

#5 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-07-01 12:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

"did you also know they just raised their minimum wage to 14 bucks for full time and almost 10 for part time..."

Well then we can expect them to lose most of their business and have to lay off most of their employees. I know because many of the conservative posters here have told me that is what would happen if we raised the federal minimum wage.

#6 | Posted by danni at 2014-07-01 12:15 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

"I know because many of the conservative posters here have told me that is what would happen if we raised the federal minimum wage."

Uh, a company can decide what they can afford and still be competitive. These guys seem to treat their employees pretty well. But forcing a company that cannot afford it is what the shortsightedness of the gimme gimme crowd is asking for and that is not sustainable.

#7 | Posted by salamandagator at 2014-07-01 12:30 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Viagra is fine since it helps in procreation as the article admits.

Yep, a lot of couples in their 60's and 70's are having kids.

#8 | Posted by 726 at 2014-07-01 01:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

...and they help pay for millions of abortions, the real kind, every year through paying Chinese taxes.

#9 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2014-07-01 04:07 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

If god made you impotent using Viagra contradicts God. Unless you practice the Menu Option to religion.

#10 | Posted by Prolix247 at 2014-07-01 04:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

"If god made you impotent using Viagra contradicts God. Unless you practice the Menu Option to religion."

Little early to be hitting the bottle isn't it?

#11 | Posted by salamandagator at 2014-07-01 04:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

From the opinion-
Although many of the required -(20)- FDA-approved methods of contraception work by preventing the fertilization of an egg, four of those methods (those specifically at issue in these cases) may have the effect of preventing an already fertilized egg from developing any further by inhibiting its attachment to the uterus.

I originally thought Hobby Lobby did not want to provide contraceptives of any form. I see this is not the case and one I could probably live with. Hobby Lobby seems to be saying if you want to prevent pregnancy, fine, abortion not so fine.

Abortion is nothing more then marginalizing human life and I can see their point.

This whole issue could be avoided if people took proper care when having sex to not become pregnant in the first place. It is the do as I feel when I want to do it and to hell with the consequences attitude.

rwd

rwd

#12 | Posted by rightwingdon at 2014-07-01 06:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

They did not have an issue with birth control just certain kinds of it they considered to be tantamount to abortion. There is no hypocrisy there even if i think they are scientifically wrong.

There is hypocrisy if THEY know they are scientifically wrong.

And they do. Or they are incredibly stupid.

Either way we should shouldn't be basing our laws regarding the health of our women on their incorrect belief systems.

#13 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-07-01 07:52 PM | Reply | Flag:

This whole issue could be avoided if people took proper care when having sex to not become pregnant in the first place. It is the do as I feel when I want to do it and to hell with the consequences attitude.

If you really believed that you would support Planned Parenthoods efforts at Family Planning. Planned Parenthood prevents 800,000 abortions a year.

#14 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-07-01 07:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

Unless you practice the Menu Option to religion.

#10 | POSTED BY PROLIX247 AT 2014-07-01 04:15 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

"A la Carte" Christians only use the bible to hide behind and act morally superior.

#15 | Posted by 726 at 2014-07-02 08:09 AM | Reply | Flag:

Hobby Lobby seems to be saying if you want to prevent pregnancy, fine, abortion not so fine.

Hobby Lobby used to cover emergency contraceptives such as these prior to 2012. Their "Christian" values are nothing more than blowing smoke up your ass.

#16 | Posted by 726 at 2014-07-02 08:10 AM | Reply | Flag:

Sal - so you obviously pick and choose what to follow.

Good to know.

#17 | Posted by Prolix247 at 2014-07-02 11:26 AM | Reply | Flag:

The false reporting on this issue is ridiculous. This, for example, is called a "lie by omission."

Hobby Lobby does cover Viagra and vasectomies, true. They also still cover most forms of birth control. Only IUDs and the morning after pill was effected by this ruling, which all employees STILL have access to via Obamacare.

#18 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-07-02 11:29 AM | Reply | Flag:

Taking the lead from President Obama the lies continue. Why do liberals continue to lie about this?

Know the facts.

Hobby Lobby's health care plan includes access, copay-free, to the following categories of FDA-approved birth-control:
1.Male condoms
2.Female condoms
3.Diaphragms with spermicide
4.Sponges with spermicide
5.Cervical caps with spermicide
6.Spermicide alone
7.Birth-control pills with estrogen and progestin ("Combined Pill)
8.Birth-control pills with progestin alone ("The Mini Pill)
9.Birth control pills (extended/continuous use)
10.Contraceptive patches
11.Contraceptive rings
12.Progestin injections
13.Implantable rods
14.Vasectomies
15.Female sterilization surgeries
16.Female sterilization implants

#19 | Posted by sawdust at 2014-07-02 06:43 PM | Reply | Flag:

Hobby Lobby's health care plan includes access, copay-free, to the following categories of FDA-approved birth-control:
1.Male condoms
2.Female condoms
3.Diaphragms with spermicide
4.Sponges with spermicide
5.Cervical caps with spermicide
6.Spermicide alone
7.Birth-control pills with estrogen and progestin ("Combined Pill)
8.Birth-control pills with progestin alone ("The Mini Pill)
9.Birth control pills (extended/continuous use)
10.Contraceptive patches
11.Contraceptive rings
12.Progestin injections
13.Implantable rods
14.Vasectomies
15.Female sterilization surgeries
16.Female sterilization implants

#19 | POSTED BY SAWDUST

Those covered items are misogynist!

-The Left

#20 | Posted by JeffJ at 2014-07-02 06:51 PM | Reply | Flag:

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