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Sunday, June 22, 2014

In 2006, Vice President Joe Biden was a senator from Delaware gearing up for a presidential campaign when he proposed that Iraq be divided into three semi-independent regions for Shiites, Sunnis and Kurds. Follow his plan, he said, and U.S. troops could be out by early 2008. Ignore it, he warned, and Iraq would devolve into sectarian conflict that could destabilize the whole region. The Bush administration chose to ignore Biden. Now, eight years later, the vice president's doom-and-gloom prediction seems more than a little prescient. "Isn't this the divided Iraq that Joe Biden predicted eight years ago?" read an editorial this week in the Dallas Morning News.

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Nice, but did you tell Obama?

#1 | Posted by sames1 at 2014-06-22 10:22 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

The problem with that plan was not being able to divvy up the oil, since it's mostly in one region.

#2 | Posted by REDIAL at 2014-06-22 12:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

It seems Obama is ignoring him too.

In your rush to implicate Bush in everything, did you just leave this out?

#3 | Posted by boaz at 2014-06-22 01:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

redial,

Not exactly, the South (Shias) and North (Kurds) both have oil, leaving the Sunnis in the middle without.

#4 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-06-22 03:48 PM | Reply | Flag:

Nice, but did you tell Obama?

#1 | Posted by sames1

obummer will read about it in the paper Monday.

#5 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-06-22 04:32 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

In your rush to implicate Bush in everything, did you just leave this out?

#3 | Posted by boaz

There's no rush. Bush is automatically and completely implicated in everything that happens in iraq. All you can blame biden or obama for is NOT miraculously somehow undoing bush's disaster.

#6 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-06-22 04:59 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

In your rush to implicate Bush in everything, did you just leave this out?

In your desperation to hang every millstone around Obama's neck, did you not stop long enough to think that maybe the best time to do this would have been when the government of Iraq was essentially non-existent and that coming in after years of "reconstruction" and saying "I'm tearing this down and doing this" would be a bad idea (one you'd criticize heavily no doubt)?

#7 | Posted by jpw at 2014-06-22 05:16 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

ummm I predicted the sectarian destruction when bush started beating the war drums in summer of '02

oh well

#8 | Posted by truthhurts at 2014-06-22 05:49 PM | Reply | Flag:

"What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other armchair, weekend warriors in this administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne"

Barack HUSSEIN Obama ..Chicago Oct 2, 2002

#9 | Posted by SammyAZ_RI at 2014-06-22 05:51 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 3

ISIS is not a ragtag amalgam of rabid fanatics, but a highly-motivated and disciplined modern militia with clearly outlined political and territorial objectives. If this is the case, then it is likely that they will not march on Baghdad after all, but will tighten their grip on the predominantly Sunni areas establishing a state within a state. And this is precisely why the Obama administration may choose to stay out of the conflagration altogether, because the goals of the ISIS coincide with a similar US plan to create a "soft partition" that dates back to 2006.

The plan was first proposed by Leslie Gelb, the former president of the Council on Foreign Relations, and then-senator Joe Biden. According to the New York Times the "so-called soft-partition plan ….calls for dividing Iraq into three semi-autonomous regions…There would be a loose Kurdistan, a loose Shiastan and a loose Sunnistan, all under a big, if weak, Iraq umbrella."

And this is why the US will probably not deploy combat troops to engage the Sunni fighters in Mosul. It's because the Obama administration's strategic goals and those of the terrorists are nearly identical. Which should surprise no one. (Mike Whitney)

#10 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-06-22 06:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

shove their own ideological agendas down our throats

This coming from someone who sidesteps the people's voice in the congress to push his ideological agenda..

#11 | Posted by boaz at 2014-06-22 06:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

This coming from someone who sidesteps the people's voice in the congress to push his ideological agenda..

#11 | Posted by boaz

And now even BOAZ is coming down on Bush.In fairness, Bush didn't sidestep the people's voice (except on things like Medicare D, the Wall Street bailout and Shiavo) as much as he simply chose not to believe anybody but his own voices.
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It's because the Obama administration's strategic goals and those of the terrorists are nearly identical.

Nutcase - the partition is not Obama's goal, it is the logical result of Bush's failed Iraq Adventure. That and the fact that the jihadists are staffed and funded by Saudi Arabia and Qatar. What is happening in Iraq and Syria is simply a proxy war between the saudis and Iranians.

And history has shown us America will do whatever it takes to keep the saudi royals fat, happy and on the throne. Think Gulf War One, 9-11 cover-up and Bush's now failed attempt to buy off the Iraq sunni tribes.

#12 | Posted by northguy3 at 2014-06-22 11:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

If we wait for the danger to become clear, it could be too late.

Sen. Joseph Biden, September 4, 2002, after voting for the invasion of Iraq.

#13 | Posted by WhiteDevil at 2014-06-23 12:16 AM | Reply | Flag:

Both parties have continued the same fascist imperialism over oil.

#14 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-06-23 10:10 AM | Reply | Flag:

2006 was before Obama became president, and before (reminded by righties for 6 years now) the time table for withdrawal was set and well after a government of iraq was already formed.

oops... keep trying to blame obama on things he didn't do while ignoring things he actually is doing like hiring lobbyists to run parts of the government like the fcc.

#15 | Posted by klifferd at 2014-06-23 10:52 AM | Reply | Flag:

...the people's voice in the congress...

"The people's voice"... Funny flag

If by "people" you mean "corporations", then "Newsworthy"

#16 | Posted by apparatchik at 2014-06-23 11:46 AM | Reply | Flag:

If by "people" you mean "corporations", then "Newsworthy"

POSTED BY APPARATCHIK AT 2014-06-23 11:46 AM |

Remember: corporations ARE people.

#17 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-06-23 11:53 AM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

He also predicted that Iraq would be president Dark Cloud's great achievement.

#18 | Posted by Huguenot at 2014-06-23 11:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

Then why did the idiot vote to invade Iraq? Note his name is on the roster of those dems who voted to go in - LOLLOLLOL

Senate Democratic votes for the Iraq War

If you remember that day, it was a day of speeches. And at least out among the Littles, the final count wasn't known until the roll was called. Here are your brave warrior Dems, those who voted Yes, covered in testosterone (or confusion) and glory. I've highlighted a few names to note:

YEAs -- 77
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Breaux (D-LA)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carnahan (D-MO)
Carper (D-DE)
Cleland (D-GA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Daschle (D-SD)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Edwards (D-NC)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Harkin (D-IA) Hollings (D-SC)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Miller (D-GA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Schumer (D-NY)
Torricelli (D-NJ)

#19 | Posted by MSgt at 2014-06-24 12:15 AM | Reply | Flag:

I prophesied when they launched this war that it was going to be nothing more than Vietnam in the sand.

#20 | Posted by shane at 2014-06-24 08:23 AM | Reply | Flag:

So "Brain damage Joe" was right about something once in eight years. I still believe the chicken that predicts the stock market and a ground hog would be more competent as president and vice president than this dream team.

#21 | Posted by visitor_ at 2014-06-24 10:11 AM | Reply | Flag:

I just saw a toothpaste commercial with Broadway Choe. Please don't impeach barry.. we would go from zero to 50 below in one fell swoop.

#22 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2014-06-24 02:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

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