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A Webster, Texas, man said his apartment complex manager told him the U.S. flag he was displaying on his balcony must be taken down because it was a "threat to the Muslim community." Duy Tran is defying the order. "It means a lot to me," he said of the flag, which he proudly put up when he moved in a few days earlier. An apartment manager at the Lodge on El Dorado quickly told him he had to take it down. "I'm gonna leave my flag there, as an American, until she shows me proof that I don't have the right to leave my flag there," he said.

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Must be a really mean flag if it's a threat to Muslims. Or anyone else for that matter. I've not known flags to ever be threatening. Only the people who wield them.

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"I'm gonna leave my flag there, as an American, until she shows me proof that I don't have the right to leave my flag there,"

That's fair. And if the complex has a rule about not hanging flags off your balcony, that's fair too.

#1 | Posted by REDIAL at 2014-06-21 10:00 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 3

Not reading the lease a threat to a peaceful tenancy??

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-06-21 10:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

I don't see how this could possibly be constitutional. It sounds like a case for the ACLU.

I wonder how many people were super fired up about this until they saw the flag displayer was named Duy Tran.

#3 | Posted by rcade at 2014-06-22 03:48 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

Not reading the lease a threat to a peaceful tenancy??

#2 | Posted by snoofy

I'm sure you have read it so you do know what you are talking about.

#4 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-06-22 05:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

While the Lodge on El Dorado admires our resident's patriotism, we must enforce our property rules and guidelines. Such guidelines maintain the aesthetics of our apartment community and provide for the safety of all residents. The apartment community already proudly displays our country's flag in a safe and appropriate manner at the entrances to our community."

#5 | Posted by SammyAZ_RI at 2014-06-22 06:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

"I wonder how many people were super fired up about this until they saw the flag displayer was named Duy Tran."

I don't know, RCade but how many Muslims do you think will declare a fatwa and go on a jihad now?

#6 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2014-06-22 06:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

I don't see how this could possibly be constitutional. It sounds like a case for the ACLU.

Why? It's a private party ban not the government.

#7 | Posted by et_al at 2014-06-22 06:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

The apartment community already proudly displays our country's flag in a safe and appropriate manner at the entrances to our community."

So I doubt this tenant is telling the truth about why he was asked to remove the flag.

#8 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2014-06-22 07:55 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

I suspect you are correct.

#9 | Posted by REDIAL at 2014-06-22 08:23 PM | Reply | Flag:

This innocent guy must be a transplant, native Texans want secede from OUR union. Real Texans would display the Texas flag not the stars and stripes.

#10 | Posted by SammyAZ_RI at 2014-06-22 09:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

...native Texans want secede...

This native doesn't nor do the many others I know.

Real Texans would...

Most display both, if any.

Next time ask instead of displaying ignorance.

#11 | Posted by et_al at 2014-06-22 09:41 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

Sammy, I've lived in Texas since 1975 and I've only encountered one person who purports to want to secede from the US: AFKABL2.

#12 | Posted by madscientist at 2014-06-22 10:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

you=your

#14 | Posted by MSgt at 2014-06-22 11:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

I hope no one makes a video of that flag, we don't want any more embassies burned down or ambassadors killed.

#15 | Posted by visitor_ at 2014-06-23 07:39 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Next time ask instead of displaying ignorance."

Now, you KNOW that's impossible.

#16 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2014-06-23 08:33 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Well I am a Vietnam Veteran [served in-country 70-71 at Nha Trang and Tan Son Nhut, among other places], and I have no problem with a name which appears to be Vietnamese, SO: what is your implication [please do tell], OR are you just being the typical libby A**H*** with you statement???

#13 | Posted by MSgt at 2014-06-22 11:08 PM | Reply | Flag: almost certainly woulda referred to the guy as a ---- 40 years ago..."

#17 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-06-23 08:34 AM | Reply | Flag:

South Vietnam nationals were not referred to as "-----", the communist VCs were. Texas has many South Vietnam immigrants and they are very patriotic towards the US and are well liked in the community. I've worked with many, they are hard workers. They make some fantastic food as well. :)

So, I considered Rcade's comment an unfounded troll. Sorry, just calling it like I see it.

#18 | Posted by path at 2014-06-23 08:45 AM | Reply | Flag:

"South Vietnam nationals were not referred to as "-----", the communist VCs were.

oh so? gee, i didn't know bigots had such strict standards back in the late 60s/early 70s...

then again, they all COULD be vc, right? i mean, according to one former grunt, they "all looked the same"

oops, i forgot, the south vietnamese nationals LOVED the americans there to protect their freedom-- they were treated fairly and respectfully.

#19 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-06-23 08:57 AM | Reply | Flag:

So, Nerf you were there?

Again, your lack of history sets you apart.

Here, try a little of this next time: www.google.com<>

#20 | Posted by path at 2014-06-23 09:18 AM | Reply | Flag:

Basically it is like what we call the guys shooting at us in Iraq, "Hadji", the locals didn't mind that name, but they did not like to hear us call the creeps "Moojh", that was a term of considerable honer in that culture which the locals did not believe they merited, to say the least.

#21 | Posted by docnjo at 2014-06-23 09:21 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Again, your lack of history sets you apart."

Well, when you've spent a lifetime herding nerfs and voting for nerds, whattaya expect?

#22 | Posted by jestgettinalong at 2014-06-23 09:22 AM | Reply | Flag:

I would be willing to be nobody even complained.

#23 | Posted by Sully at 2014-06-23 09:28 AM | Reply | Flag:

ok path, your hyperlink goes to google's home page. what shoukld it type? "path's guide to who is and who isn't a ----"?

#24 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-06-23 09:29 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Well, when you've spent a lifetime herding nerfs and voting for nerds, whattaya expect"

yes, i herd nerfs-- like you for instance-- i herded you and path. and yes, you are both nerfs: pre-formed, soft, harmless, and tossed around by kids (like yours truly).

"voting for nerds?

uh... ok.

let me guess, your real name is either ogre palowakski or richie cunningham....

#25 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-06-23 09:35 AM | Reply | Flag:

"I would be willing to be nobody even complained"

i agree. they are probably too busy formulating top secret plans to impose sharia law in dallas, los angeles, washington dc, nyc and boaz' neighborhood in nc...

#26 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-06-23 09:37 AM | Reply | Flag:

So I doubt this tenant is telling the truth about why he was asked to remove the flag.

#8 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2014-06-22 07:55 PMFlag: (Choose)
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I suspect you are correct.

#9 | Posted by REDIAL

If he was ask to remove it, he would have it in a letter from the manager or HOA. That should remove any doubt.

#27 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-06-23 09:42 AM | Reply | Flag:

Next time ask instead of displaying ignorance.

#11 | Posted by et_al

That's not his style. He can't help it.

#28 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-06-23 09:44 AM | Reply | Flag:

oh so? gee, i didn't know bigots had such strict standards back in the late 60s/early 70s...

then again, they all COULD be vc, right? i mean, according to one former grunt, they "all looked the same"

oops, i forgot, the south vietnamese nationals LOVED the americans there to protect their freedom-- they were treated fairly and respectfully.

#19 | Posted by NerfHerder

It is apparent you don't have a clue about what you speak. Why don't you ask your grandfather about the war in Viet Nam.

#29 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-06-23 09:47 AM | Reply | Flag:

ok path, your hyperlink goes to google's home page. what shoukld it type? ...
#24 | POSTED BY NERFHERDER

You need a tutorial on how to effectively use Google to look up historical facts and avoid the fiction/propaganda/Onion links?

Hmmm... that explains a lot.

#30 | Posted by path at 2014-06-23 09:58 AM | Reply | Flag:

"It is apparent you don't have a clue about what you speak. "

tell me where i'm wrong, bucko or go back into your hole.

"You need a tutorial on how to effectively use Google to look up historical facts and avoid the fiction/propaganda/Onion links?"

no, but it is fairly obvious you need a tutorial on how to properly hyperlink to a specific webpage.

#31 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-06-23 10:02 AM | Reply | Flag:

Unlike the Democrats and their minority plantation serfs, conservatives welcome self supporting patriotic people with open arms.

Keep shouting how RACIST all us conservatives are. Just try to stay away from mirrors while you do it.

#32 | Posted by USAF242 at 2014-06-23 10:50 AM | Reply | Flag:

Unlike the Democrats and their minority plantation serfs,

Is it hard typing while wearing a white hood or does the light from the flaming cross help?

#33 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-06-23 10:52 AM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

First off ner, not all the people in Viet Nam were called -----. You have been watching too many hollyweard movies.

#34 | Posted by Sniper at 2014-06-23 11:17 AM | Reply | Flag:

"First off ner, not all the people in Viet Nam were called -----"

lame-o.

well, gee, not all the blacks in the south were lynched by the kkk.
and not all of them were called ____ (fill in the blank).

but yes, you are right-- not all the people in vietnam were called -----...

take the hundreds of thousands of american soldiers over there fighting for nothing for instance-- they were never call -----. pretty sure of that...

unless they were asian-amercian soldiers of course, then they probably were...

#35 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-06-23 11:42 AM | Reply | Flag:

and not all of them were called ____ (fill in the blank).

sir?

#36 | Posted by kanrei at 2014-06-23 11:44 AM | Reply | Flag:

"is it hard typing while wearing a white hood"

you are being very generous in assuming that

a. they can type

(post-bellum typing class: the quick, brown n***** jumped over the lazy dog)

or

b. they can even spell

(uh, is 'nightly news' also spelt 'knot-ly noose'?)

or

c. they can even write

(...)

#37 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-06-23 11:50 AM | Reply | Flag:

I wonder how many people were super fired up about this until they saw the flag displayer was named Duy Tran.

#3 | Posted by rcade at 2014-06-22 03:48 PM | Reply

You're making a grand assumption pertaining to a large swath of people in order to try and criticize them for what you assume is their inherent racism. Racism often and accurately being described as the action of making grand assumptions pertaining to large swaths of people.

Irony or stupidity. Not sure. Maybe both.

#38 | Posted by Yodar013 at 2014-06-23 01:11 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

Actually the term "----" comes from the Korean war, A Korean in his own language is Han-----. The term is derisive to say the least.

#39 | Posted by docnjo at 2014-06-23 01:33 PM | Reply | Flag:

This story is a load of crap.

.

#40 | Posted by Dave at 2014-06-23 03:07 PM | Reply | Flag:

bs... my family flies the american flag.

#41 | Posted by klifferd at 2014-06-23 04:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

Dave can smell his own kind.

#42 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2014-06-23 05:29 PM | Reply | Flag:

I'm not overly supportive or proud of everything the USA does, and especially of the corrupt politicians that pad their pockets and those of cronies at the expense of Americans, but I do fly the USA flag.

The PC Police at the forefront of these stories oddly are working to make the concept of USA patriotism a dirty word, while many of them are flag waving supporters of other countries before our own.

They want the interests of average long term Americans to take a back seat to their pet divisive issues such as a USA without borders, and immigration without bounds, or the need for assimilation. As long as the 1% has wealth and political control, they do not care about a viable prosperous USA for the 99%. It works in their interests while it works against most Americans.

#43 | Posted by Robson at 2014-06-23 06:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

If this was about the Israeli or some Muslim flag, the ACLU and PC police would be on the case.

#44 | Posted by Robson at 2014-06-23 06:28 PM | Reply | Flag:

Since when do we have to defend flying the American Flag? This PC b.s. makes me sick.

#45 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2014-06-23 06:40 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Damn right the GIs in Nam called the enemy that did their best to kill us -----. So what?

#46 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2014-06-23 06:46 PM | Reply | Flag:

Damn right the GIs in Nam called the enemy that did their best to kill us -----. So what?

#46 | Posted by phesterOBoyle

The Vietnamese were not our "enemies" until we faked the Gulf of Tonkin incident and then blew up their villages and burned and raped their people and pretty much destroyed their country.

I bet you love the smell of Napalm in the morning.

#47 | Posted by donnerboy at 2014-06-23 06:53 PM | Reply | Flag:

*YES* The NVC were the enemy. You seem to want to defend them, so get in touch with the families of the 58,000 Americans killed there.

#48 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2014-06-23 07:05 PM | Reply | Flag:

Would Americans be arguing about the USA flag flying on our residences pre-2000, or pre 1900 or pre PC?

If Americans weren't convinced to stick our nose into the business of other nations at the behest of global bankers and corporations, we Americans wouldn't be wasting our time arguing about the outcomes.

We need to make America strong and defend it from the invaders that are intended to provide more profits for big business and votes for politicians at the expense of our environment and the economy for working Americans.

Our borders are kept wide open and big business Republicans like it, as do corrupt anti-American working class Democratic politicians.

Votes, money, and dividing all Americans is the immigration agenda that is intended to benefit the few and screw the many. Such strategy is always at the bottom of such discussions.

#49 | Posted by Robson at 2014-06-23 08:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

"bs... my family flies the american flag."

That's what I found to be odd-the notion that someone, anyone would find the flag insulting. if it does, you're going to have a tough go of it in the US. There are quite a few flags, in lost of different places. Most are not coming down.

It sounds like the apartment complex is trying desperately hard to adda new level of complexity to the subject of Political Correctness.

But I think that the apartment complex should reserve the right to limit what sorts of displays tenants are able to put up. I don't think anyone (even Muslims) are going to be insulted or threatened by a US flag. But they may be threatened or insulted by A Russia flag. Especially if you're Ukrainian. Or an orange Ulster Unionist flag if you're from Belfast. And if you let one person fly a flag, isn't it difficult to make the argument that another is not allowed to?

#50 | Posted by madbomber at 2014-06-23 10:23 PM | Reply | Flag:

"It sounds like the apartment complex is trying desperately hard to adda new level of complexity to the subject of Political Correctness."

It's also possible that they don't want anything hanging off their buildings, flags or not. Lot's of places are like that.

Is there some kind of 2nd Amendment-like right to hang the US flag anywhere you want? Regardless of lease agreements?

#51 | Posted by REDIAL at 2014-06-23 10:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

We have not heard of any residents complaining about any flags at the complex, or any of the patriotic items we saw. In fact, we spoke to several neighbors who say they want Tran's flag to stay.

Has anyone actually checked to see if any muslims actually live there?

And if there are and they are complaining tell them to put a note in the complaint box and the management will get to it when they are done processing all the bounced rent checks.

Or better yet, require the tenants to hang an American flag on their balconies in their leases.

rwd

#52 | Posted by rightwingdon at 2014-06-23 11:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Has anyone actually checked to see if any muslims actually live there?"

Doesn't matter.

"Or better yet, require the tenants to hang an American flag on their balconies in their leases."

If it's already there, end of story. Hard to make retroactive though.

#53 | Posted by REDIAL at 2014-06-23 11:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

I could just see mohammed it court.

I call on you infidels to HONOR MY RIGHT to not look at that disgusting rag hanging on the balcony.

yeah works for me.

rwd

#54 | Posted by rightwingdon at 2014-06-23 11:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

If it's already there, end of story. Hard to make retroactive though.

#53 | Posted by REDIAL at 2014-06-23 11:08 PM | Reply | Flag

Not when lease signing comes around again.

Next.

rwd

#55 | Posted by rightwingdon at 2014-06-23 11:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Not when lease signing comes around again."

Sure. Not relevant for this case though.

Next.

#56 | Posted by REDIAL at 2014-06-23 11:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

Is there some kind of 2nd Amendment-like right to hang the US flag anywhere you want?

No. Flying the flag would fall under the First Amendment. That does not come into play on private property. Government property may be different, "Congress shall make no law..."

#57 | Posted by et_al at 2014-06-24 12:01 AM | Reply | Flag:

Hangok is the Korean word for Korean person.

#58 | Posted by docnjo at 2014-06-24 09:54 AM | Reply | Flag:

Sounds more like a Muslim threat to any flag wavers.

#59 | Posted by rerun2 at 2014-06-24 02:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

Since when do we have to defend flying the American Flag? This PC b.s. makes me sick.
#45 | Posted by phesterOBoyle

Probably started around the same time we had to defend burning it. Same coin, different side.

#60 | Posted by snoofy at 2014-06-24 04:48 PM | Reply | Flag:

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