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Wednesday, June 18, 2014

Televangelist Pat Robertson on Monday blasted former President George W. Bush for selling Americans a "bill of goods" before the Iraq invasion, which led to the violence that is currently sweeping across the country. During his Monday broadcast, a viewer asked Robertson if there was a solution to the ongoing violence caused by an Al Qaeda splinter group, ISIS, threatening to take over Iraq. "Right now, what we did -- and it was a great mistake to go in there," Robertson explained, pointing out that Saddam Hussein's "bomb maker" had said that the then-dictator "doesn't know how to make an atomic bomb." He continued, "And so to sell the American people on weapons of mass destruction, he had WMD and was getting [concentrated uranium] yellowcake out of Africa and all of that, it was a lot of nonsense ... We were sold a bill of goods, we should never have gone into that country!"

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That popping sound you hear is Cons heads exploding as both Robertson and Glenn Beck and others realize once again that they were on the wrong side of History.
I'm sure they'll remember this the next time...

Nah, they won't.

#1 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2014-06-18 07:55 AM | Reply | Flag:

If memory serves, Robertson asked Bush at the time about casualties in Iraq, and Bush said that there would be none.

Now, Bush's statement was crazy. But, if you use the Wayback Machine, you'll find that its amazing how many people were convinced that Bush was oracular.

It also felt good to believe him. I mean, after all, who couldn't get behind a war where no American gets hurt?

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2014-06-18 08:33 AM | Reply | Flag:

I just got my Wayback Machine plugged in:

ZED: "There are casualties in any war. American forces will suffer".

THE RIGHT: "You have no faith in our troops".

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2014-06-18 08:34 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

That popping sound you hear is Cons heads exploding as both Robertson and Glenn Beck and others realize once again that they were on the wrong side of History.

www.washingtonpost.com

The Rev. Pat Robertson said President Bush dismissed his warning that the United States would suffer heavy casualties in Iraq and told the television evangelist just before the beginning of the war that "we're not going to have any casualties."

"Oh, no, we're not going to have any casualties," Robertson quoted Bush as saying. " 'Well,' I said, 'it's the way it's going to be. . . . The Lord told me it was going to be, A, a disaster and, B, messy.' "

#4 | Posted by 726 at 2014-06-18 08:54 AM | Reply | Flag:

you'll find that its amazing how many people were convinced that Bush was oracular.

Bush hallucinated that God told him to attack Iraq.

Wolfowitz, Cheney and Rumsfeld were all cheerleading that the war would be over in weeks, cost only $1.5 billion and the reconstruction would be paid out of Iraq oil money.

Of those four only Bush has the common sense to STFU now.

#5 | Posted by 726 at 2014-06-18 08:58 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Heard a great line today:

"Blaming Obama for the current turmoil in Iraq is like blaming your current lover for the Herpes you got 10 years ago."

#6 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2014-06-18 10:22 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

That popping sound ...
#1 | Posted by TFDNihilist

No popping sounds will be heard. They'll ignore it like they do all other inconvenient facts.

#7 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2014-06-18 10:55 AM | Reply | Flag:

Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and the rest of those neocons who pushed for this war should be flown to Iraq and dropped off to live in the democracy in the middle east that they created.

#8 | Posted by danni at 2014-06-18 10:56 AM | Reply | Flag:

Robertson should do a little soul searching regarding blood diamonds.

#9 | Posted by nutcase at 2014-06-18 11:13 AM | Reply | Flag:

You guys are right. We should just ignore the problem, let another generation of young Persians be brainwashed into despising the West.

That's the solution. How could anyone disagree?

#10 | Posted by TuffLuv at 2014-06-18 11:20 AM | Reply | Flag:

""Blaming Obama for the current turmoil in Iraq is like blaming your current lover for the Herpes you got 10 years ago.""

of course, by saying that, you are effectively admitting that you just gave the current lover herpes without notification, but eh, so what, right?

#11 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-06-18 12:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

Irony..

www.bbc.com

#12 | Posted by TuffLuv at 2014-06-18 01:14 PM | Reply | Flag:

First Glenn Beck, now Pat,

And it only took them 10 years to realize it.

I'd say that's progress.

#13 | Posted by Corky at 2014-06-18 01:17 PM | Reply | Flag:

Was Robertson part of that rogue group of "Christian" wankers who supported Bush's war over 99% of religious leaders in America?

#14 | Posted by Tor at 2014-06-18 01:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

As I recall democrats voted for the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. Now they did not do it because they like Bush and he asked them nicely. No, they listened to the CIA and what it had to say and made their own judgements in the matter.

These same democrats way back in 1998 when Bill Clinton was president applauded when Bill Clinton bombed yes bombed Baghdad. Many innocent civilians were killed during these bombings but democrats believed it was the right thing to do because Saddam Hussein stopped the weapons inspectors from looking for weapons of mass destruction. Now did Clinton make this stuff up just so he could bomb or did he just believe what they CIA told him? I don't know but if Bush was wrong then so was Clinton and the blood of all those innocent civilians is on his head as well as those democrats who cheered when Clinton bombed them.

#15 | Posted by mcmlcxx at 2014-06-18 01:28 PM | Reply | Flag:

"And it only took them 10 years to publically admit it."

ft

#16 | Posted by eberly at 2014-06-18 01:32 PM | Reply | Flag:

Had Robinson said this any time between 2003 and 2009 it would be worth something.

#17 | Posted by Tor at 2014-06-18 01:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

**** So ARREST Bush,Cheney,Rumsfeld and the rest of those Criminal War Mongering BASTARDS!!!

#18 | Posted by AntiCadillac at 2014-06-18 02:08 PM | Reply | Flag:

The British may be setting up to after Tony Blair over his feckless, reckless, self serving, corrupt actions that got UK servicemen killed and British into an unwarranted war. Politicians need to be accountable long after they leave office. The USA/Bush/Obama government is still trying to keep the not yet released British Chilcot Report on how they were sucked into the Iraq War by Bush and others, is censored and under wraps.

www.independent.co.uk

A broad release of all the raw data in the British Chilcot report material by a Snowden style whistle blower would represent a worthy accomplishment a society concerned with the security of the world and wanting justice.

#19 | Posted by Robson at 2014-06-18 02:18 PM | Reply | Flag:

All I can say for W, is........that's a fine mess you really got us into!!

...inventing all that baloney about WMD's, losing over 4,000 American lives

......just so he and his "oil administration" got to control the oil interests

behind the scene. Well, at least I think W learned learned a lesson from

this......he's not acting as "cocky and arrogant" as before the war.....

#20 | Posted by saginawmi at 2014-06-18 03:01 PM | Reply | Flag:

I've said this before and I'll say it again: how bad does the USA have to f things up before pat robertsons ilk start looking like viable choices?

#21 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-06-18 03:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

You guys are right. We should just ignore the problem, let another generation of young Persians be brainwashed into despising the West.
That's the solution. How could anyone disagree?

#10 | POSTED BY TUFFLUV

Is that what you think we're mitigating over in Iraq and Afghanistan? Really? From my perspective, our actions have already created another generation of Islamic fundamentalist youth (Persians are Iranian) who are brainwashed to despise the West. Continued action in both countries only exacerbates the problem.

#22 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-06-18 03:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

As I recall democrats voted for the war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Some did. Those that voted no should be hailed. Hillary Clinton should be vilified. She's a War Hawk, as shown by her decisions regarding Bergdahl early on during his capture.

These same democrats way back in 1998 when Bill Clinton was president applauded when Bill Clinton bombed yes bombed Baghdad.

How many American troops were lost during those bombings? Bush sad there would be none during a full out invasion, not just bombings. This is critical point of Robertson's comments and thread topic.

I don't know but if Bush was wrong then so was Clinton and the blood of all those innocent civilians is on his head as well as those democrats who cheered when Clinton bombed them.
#15 | POSTED BY MCMLCXX

I think you're conflating time tables. By the time Bush had troops on Iraq's door, IAEA inspectors were attempting to complete their inspections, to which at that point they found ZERO evidence that Saddam had an operable nuclear facility (let alone weapons program). Bush refused to wait for IAEA final results. Why do you suppose this is? Could it be he didn't want the official report (exposing a lack of WMDs in Iraq) to be released before the invasion began? Me thinks so. So much more difficult to reverse invasion than it is to call it off. Bush and Co. knew this, which is why they were so eager to get in. They knew once they were in, there was no turning back.

#23 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-06-18 03:52 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

A broad release of all the raw data in the British Chilcot report material by a Snowden style whistle blower would represent a worthy accomplishment a society concerned with the security of the world and wanting justice.

#19 | POSTED BY ROBSON AT 2014-06-18 02:18 PM | FLAG: MOST NEWSWORTHY STATEMENT OF THE WEEK

#24 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2014-06-18 03:54 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

You guys are right. We should just ignore the problem, let another generation of young Persians be brainwashed into despising the West.

That's the solution. How could anyone disagree?

#10 | Posted by TuffLuv

Let's hear YOUR solution then.

Unless you're just one of those "whatever obama does is wrong" idiots.

#25 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2014-06-18 05:09 PM | Reply | Flag:

Israel provided much of the intelligence that justified our invasion of Iraq.

news.bbc.co.uk

Why does the consolidated USA media attempt to muzzle this and make it politically incorrect to discuss it, when most of the world already knows it? We need "friends and allies" that have mutual interests, and dispose of those who have only self interests and who use up their friends .

#26 | Posted by Robson at 2014-06-18 06:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

If those who conceived and planned the illegal premeditated incompetent invasion of Iraq (and at the cost of many tens if not hundreds of thousands of lives), don't deserve to be charged with war crimes and face hangings, then capital punishment as a deterrent should be outlawed by humanity as a fraud because it is only used against little people.

Society would be served if every aspect of the run up to this Iraq war was opened up for public scrutiny. It appears as though only the UK has the political will to start this process with their yet unpublished Chilcot Report. www.iraqinquiry.org.uk

Prosecutions and public hangings (or life w/o parole) of guilty high level public officials might begin to bring back sanity and ethics to those in government who believe they as a cabal are immune to justice. The American and British people, and others need to collaborate against dishonest government, because both are finding that government is not working for the people.

#27 | Posted by Robson at 2014-06-18 06:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

of course, by saying that, you are effectively admitting that you just gave the current lover herpes without notification, but eh, so what, right?
#11 | POSTED BY NERFHERDER AT 2014-06-18 12:42 PM | FLAG:

right. the right does that, yes. a lot.

#28 | Posted by ichiro at 2014-06-18 08:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

When Congress foolishly voted to invade-occupy Iraq, 3 of the 4 Congressman from Rhode Island voted ..NO (including a West Point Graduate and former Army Ranger) If congress had voted 75% NO as the Rhode Island delegation did, we would not be reading sad column.

Sammy in anti-war Rhode Island ..and pro-war Arizona

#29 | Posted by SammyAZ_RI at 2014-06-18 08:39 PM | Reply | Flag:

When Congress foolishly voted to invade-occupy Iraq, 3 of the 4 Congressman from Rhode Island voted ..NO (including a West Point Graduate and former Army Ranger) If congress had voted 75% NO as the Rhode Island delegation did, we would not be reading sad column

Congress voted to go to war if the UN authorized it OR if there was a clear and present threat.

Neither happened. Bush had to go early in the spring before it got too hot to go to war.

Everybody, like Hillary, who voted for it was thrilled it was a "Mission Accomplished".

Until it wasn't.

#30 | Posted by northguy3 at 2014-06-18 09:27 PM | Reply | Flag:

Well the way I recall it,authorization to go to war didn't mean see you tomorrow. It meant step down Saddam.That's what I truly believed was the point,then shock and awe moments later,Bushco buffaloed congress.

#31 | Posted by bruceaz at 2014-06-18 09:38 PM | Reply | Flag:

Pat Robertson must be near death.

#32 | Posted by Twinpac at 2014-06-19 03:28 AM | Reply | Flag:

even though he is crazier than a crack
pipe, we must remember the old adage
about clocks when remembering Pat, that
"even a broken clock is right twice a day"...

this is one of his two...

I won't hold my breath for the other...

#33 | Posted by earthmuse at 2014-06-19 09:17 AM | Reply | Flag:

'I won't hold my breath for the other...'

Well, he is on record as saying he believes in evolution ...

#34 | Posted by Taiwanlight at 2014-06-19 01:15 PM | Reply | Flag:

...o.k. now maybe he is right twice...
pretty damn good for a broken clock!

lol.

p.s. he's still mostly Nutter...

#35 | Posted by earthmuse at 2014-06-20 07:41 AM | Reply | Flag:

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