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Dozens of extremists attacked a Kenyan coastal town for hours, killing those who couldn't answer questions about Islam or didn't know the Somali language, witnesses said Monday. At least 48 people were killed and two hotels were set on fire. Like the gunmen who attacked Nairobi's Westgate Mall last year, the Mpeketoni attackers gave life-or-death religious tests, a witness said, killing those who were not Muslim. "They came to our house at around 8 p.m. and asked us in Swahili whether we were Muslims. My husband told them we were Christians and they shot him in the head and chest," said Anne Gathigi.

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What's your solution Boaz?

#1 | Posted by 726 at 2014-06-16 10:45 AM | Reply | Flag:

726,

The only thing that can be done is to realize that this can only be fought the say way it's fighting us.

Return the favor in kind.

That's it. But there's usually no political will to do that. Environments have to be protected and created. It's either our environment or theirs. They are willing to kill for theirs. The liberal way is to talk and negotiate and eventually, that works out for everyone else except us.

#3 | Posted by boaz at 2014-06-16 11:34 AM | Reply | Flag:

Where's the Muslim outrage and denunciation?

#4 | Posted by path at 2014-06-16 12:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

Where's the Muslim outrage and denunciation?

There's no "outrage" when you agree in ideology.

#5 | Posted by boaz at 2014-06-16 12:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

Outlaw Islam in this country. Take away their constitutional rights. Do Muslims have guns in this country? Why?

#7 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2014-06-16 01:42 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

"Where's the Muslim outrage and denunciation?"

well.... i'm guessing if you really are looking for it, yer not gonna find it on fox or cnn...

#8 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-06-16 01:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Outlaw Islam in this country."

you go, girl!

#9 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-06-16 01:47 PM | Reply | Flag:

"The only thing that can be done is to realize that this can only be fought the say way it's fighting us.

Return the favor in kind."

when will boaz parachute into kenya and take the fight to the muslims?

my guess isn't anytime soon. but when he dreams at night, he becomes 'amos a. rambo' and he'll give them infidels a war the won't believe!

#10 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-06-16 01:51 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

"Let's become Somalia" is a poor response indeed.

#11 | Posted by Corky at 2014-06-16 01:52 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 3

Remove their access to guns, explosives and the internet. Also, refuse Muslims access to gasoline, pressure cookers and dry cleaning.

#12 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2014-06-16 01:53 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

Muslims are also most of the city council in Beverly Hills. That place should be surrounded and all citizens should undergo a religeous patriotic litmus test and weapons check.

#13 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2014-06-16 01:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

you go, girl!

Right! All Muslim cosmetic surgeons should halt surgeries immediately. They have access to weaponry. We should confiscate all gold and Mercedes Benz products. They also should be barred from luxury resorts and Disneyland. We can't have wholesome families vacationing from the midwest exposed to the Islamic scourge. They are also attending our colleges! Our impressionable youths are sitting side by side with them. I bet they even go on dates.

#15 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2014-06-16 02:07 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 2

sheria law

Who's she? Is she a Muslim?

#16 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2014-06-16 02:08 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

Ban it from the prisons! Most inmates convert while they're incarcerated. Some become Muslim! We can't have one of our most valuable commodities convert to something that should be unlawful. I'm all for deporting Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Muhammad Ali if I just knew where to deport them to.

#18 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2014-06-16 02:11 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 2

Ahmad Rashad must be stopped!

#19 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2014-06-16 02:14 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 2

Extremists Kill People Who Fail Muslim Test

The same thing happened during the Spanish Inquisition. The Bolsheviks also during the Russian Revolution. Hell, the French rounded up non believers and cut their heads off.

#20 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2014-06-16 02:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

"The same thing happened during the Spanish Inquisition."

here's a similar test, unfortunately resulting in execution:

www.youtube.com

rip, brave sir robin

#21 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-06-16 02:24 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Outlaw Islam in this country."

Maybe we should put them in internment camps... Ooo... Maybe we should check to see if they have a muslim lineage! Great idea

Extremists who are killing innocent people should be shot. They are murderers and unless they have the prison system available and the means to round them up alive and incarcerate them permanently, they should be killed.

I feel bad for the people there. Where were the police? How did they manage to kill 48 people without getting caught? Seems like no one was there to help them.

I don't know what the laws are like in Kenya, but the people in that area who could be the targets of these extremists should buy guns and learn how to use them. Better to take a few of them with you. They'll think twice before attacking anyone else if they get shot up everywhere they go.

#22 | Posted by LEgregius at 2014-06-16 02:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

I'd likely opt to make killing me as painful for them as possible.

I'd tell them my name and that I was a man of the book same as Waraqa ibn Nawfal.

#24 | Posted by Tor at 2014-06-16 02:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

Other than some moving lips, there will be ZERO Muslim 'outrage'.

Only way there could be less Muslim outrage would be if the victims were non-muslim.

For well over a thousand years there were Jewish and other non-muslim groups within many many Islamic countries. They've been disappearing throughout the 20th century. The Jewish minorities are about gone, and others are fading to zero really fast.

While I'll admit its not an especially high bar, if the Islamic world could at least rise to the level of Israel for how it treats religious minorities, it would be a massive improvement.

#25 | Posted by USAF242 at 2014-06-16 02:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

Not terribly long ago in this country there was an organization that widely terrorized people based on their ethnicity, beliefs and religion. It consisted of a particular ethnic group with strong religious beliefs and opposed to other sects of the religion of choice - on in particular. It was / is basically a hate group that wanted/wants purification of the USA. It is an organization that has existed in various forms for a century and a half and thrived for most of that time. In the 1870s they had 550k members. As a matter of fact, in 1870 a federal grand jury determined it to be a "terrorist organization" and there was indeed the Civil Rights Act of 1871 in regard to this and gave the President expansive powers to combat it. It has become to widely be recognized by most American's as a hate group.

The group has terrorized, tortured and murdered many people over the period of time it has existed. The second formation of this group started using the burning Christian cross as it symbol and prayed and sang hymns at meetings. They were also notoriously anti-union as they wanted to control access to good paying jobs. Today there is a third formation to the organization but it has far fewer members than when it peaked in the late 20s around 6 million members.

If you didn't guess it's the Ku Klux Klan.

#26 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2014-06-16 04:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

How weird that Boaz and the Klan would be approving of the same policies!

#27 | Posted by Nixon at 2014-06-16 04:16 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

Return the favor in kind.

- Boaz

So now you want to go around killing innocent Muslims in the name of revenge.

That violates the Constitution, the teachings of Christ and the very notion of American Exceptionalism.

What a sad caricature of real conservative you are.

#28 | Posted by 726 at 2014-06-16 04:19 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

when will boaz parachute into kenya and take the fight to the muslims?
my guess isn't anytime soon. but when he dreams at night, he becomes 'amos a. rambo' and he'll give them infidels a war the won't believe!

#10 | Posted by NerfHerder

I've already spent three combat tours, how about you Nerf?

So now you want to go around killing innocent Muslims in the name of revenge.

Who said that? "innocent" muslims are cutting off heads? It must be a weird world you live in. If you think those muslims who are doing all this killing are innocent..Just wow...

#29 | Posted by boaz at 2014-06-16 05:37 PM | Reply | Flag:

#28: Boaz never said anything close to taking revenge on "Innocent" Muslims. Think you better take a check on your emotional overrun. Boaz is talking about fighting the bad guys, the ones killing people because they do not believe what they want them to.

In case you didn't read the entire article...

"At the Breeze View Hotel, the gunmen pulled the men aside and ordered the women to watch as they killed them"

"They came to our house at around 8 p.m. and asked us in Swahili whether we were Muslims. My husband told them we were Christians and they shot him in the head and chest,"

Boaz talked of fighting those perpetrators, not any Muslim walking around the streets of the US.

Maybe you are being a "sad caricature of real liberal you are" to coin your emotional attack.

I apologize, you got my dander up digits.

#30 | Posted by path at 2014-06-16 06:34 PM | Reply | Flag:

when will boaz parachute into kenya and take the fight to the muslims?
my guess isn't anytime soon. but when he dreams at night, he becomes 'amos a. rambo' and he'll give them infidels a war the won't believe!

#10 | POSTED BY NERFHERDER AT 2014-06-16 01:51 PM | REPLY | FLAG

Boaz is an RCade verified combat veteran OF THIS WAR.

He knows a lot more about combat than you ever will, Internet Tough Guy.

#31 | Posted by soheifox at 2014-06-16 07:54 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

**** The US Govt is in the ongoing Business of MURDERING Hundreds of Thousands of Muslims who FAIL the Wall St/CorpoRat America Agenda Test!

#32 | Posted by AntiCadillac at 2014-06-16 08:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

So 32, you condone what al-Shabab did to those innocent Christians in Kenia and blame it on the US. Very interesting since al-Shabab blames it on what Kenyans are doing in Somalia. Has nothing to do with the US.

Try to adjust your hate to the facts.

#33 | Posted by path at 2014-06-16 09:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

The Muslim religion is one of hate and violence! There is no love anywhere within it! It should be treated as an illegal cult in the US.

#34 | Posted by dougluvsgolf at 2014-06-17 07:48 AM | Reply | Flag:

Who said that? "innocent" muslims are cutting off heads? It must be a weird world you live in. If you think those muslims who are doing all this killing are innocent..Just wow...

#29 | POSTED BY BOAZ AT 2014-06-16 05:37 PM | FLAG:

Well your response to my question was vague at best. It appeared, and I am not the only one, that you wanted to round up Muslims here in the US.

You really should have stated clearer that you want to invade Kenya to fight another civil war that we have no business in.

Do tell how are you propose paying for this war?

#35 | Posted by 726 at 2014-06-17 08:04 AM | Reply | Flag:

The Muslim religion is one of hate and violence!"

as opposed to the christian religion, which is one of love and violence...

#37 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-06-17 08:24 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Do tell how are you propose paying for this war?"

easy: by giving more money to israel.

#38 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-06-17 08:27 AM | Reply | Flag:

Do tell how are you propose paying for this war?

#35 | POSTED BY 726

Through tax cuts?

#39 | Posted by path at 2014-06-17 08:31 AM | Reply | Flag:

interventionism is like heroin. once its in your system, you are hooked for life...

#40 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-06-17 08:33 AM | Reply | Flag:

as opposed to the christian religion, which is one of love and violence...

#37 | POSTED BY NERFHERDER

Still can't get your head out of the 13th century, eh Nerf?

#41 | Posted by path at 2014-06-17 08:33 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Still can't get your head out of the 13th century, eh Nerf?"

Still can't get your head out of your ass, eh path?

#42 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-06-17 08:42 AM | Reply | Flag:

i seem to recall a bunch of christians killing 6 million jews in my grandpa's lifetime.

i also seem to recall a bunch of christians in europe killing other christians in europe to the tune of 20 million or so over the past 100 years...

wasn't it a christian nation that killed 500,000 iraqi children with sanctions and then went in and destroyed the nation proper, resulting in chaos, terror and another million or so dead and wounded?

but it is a characteristic of the average idiot in this country to try and show that islam is somehow worse than all that.

i don't buy it for one second.

my nation is full of many, many clueless assholes who don't understand what a bunch floating turds they have let themselves and their political parties become...

#43 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-06-17 08:48 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

sounds like a lot of frustrated going around in your head Nerf.

BTW: "The Nazi Fuehrer Adolf Hitler stated repeatedly Nazism was founded on science not faith.[5]"

#44 | Posted by path at 2014-06-17 09:52 AM | Reply | Flag:

^make that frustrated hate

#45 | Posted by path at 2014-06-17 09:53 AM | Reply | Flag:

"BTW: "The Nazi Fuehrer Adolf Hitler stated repeatedly Nazism was founded on science not faith.[5]""

before and during hitler's rule, 9 out of every 10 germans identified themselves as christians. facts are facts, path. as much as you try to deny or twist them...

christians have killed more people in the last 100 years than the muslims will ever dream of.

scores of millions!

keep telling yourself that is not the case tho' if it makes you feel better about your own...

#46 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-06-17 09:58 AM | Reply | Flag:

"christians have killed more people in the last 100 years than the muslims will ever dream of. " - Nerf

Perhaps, but was it in the name of "god" that they did this or the state?

Did Nazi Christians, kill other French Christians?

Your analogy doesn't hold up, you might as well say males, light skinned, .. pretty much whatever demographic you what.

But when millions were killed who were the killing for? For a God? or a State? That is the key and the point.

#47 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2014-06-17 10:04 AM | Reply | Flag:

nerfherder and lee got me crackin up.

you know why these people didn't kill the muslims?

because in africa they need to create the image of unity while the truth is, in iraq, afghanistan, syria and pakistan, its muslims killing muslims.

this is just a islamic civil war.

the moderates unfortunately are either asleep or in extreme denial.

this is why many many many more of the liberal minded muslims and/or ex muslims are pro drone war. bomb these fools

#48 | Posted by klifferd at 2014-06-17 10:09 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Your analogy doesn't hold up"

actually it does... your denial ranks with muslim moderates.

#49 | Posted by klifferd at 2014-06-17 10:10 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

#47 a christian is supposed to not kill, right?

christians, being followers of jesus are not supposed to kill, so their apologists say, yet they have killed more innocent people-- men women and children-- in the past 100 years than anyone else in world history.

now, why is that? is it because for the past 100 years christianity is the biggest religious failure that the world has ever known? that it does absolutely nothing to reduce the urges to or motives to kill others?

or is it because that somehow, it feeds into the carnage?

well, let's go to the bible for a clue--

the old testament details years of death and destruction of masses of people at the hands of a vengeful lord. no atrocity is too mild! according to the true believing christian these brutalities described so graphically positively, actually happened because the bible is, according to the christian, the inspiration or word of god himself.

now, many christians will point to the o.t. and say, "well, the o.t. was abrogated through jesus-- we now believe in the teachings of the n.t." but the fact remains that god still performed all this horrible stuff in the first place!!! it cannot be denied by christians because to do so would negate their belief that the bible is 100% accurate.

take deuteronomy 2:33 for example. a true christian will NEVER deny that the lord allowed the israelites to slaughter men women and children indiscriminately. they'll simply say, "that all changed when jesus came" and wash their hands of the past actions of their new, gentler, kinder god.

but the fact (to christians) remains that it DID happen and moreover it was done by god, who is also, according to christians-- JESUS. so in essence, in order to be a trrue believer one must also believe that jesus, being part god, had a hand in these acts.

yet these same chrisitans see the same actions in muslims and they cry out against them as savages, upholding themselves as civilized and bearers of god's true message.

what utter hypocrisy!!!!

christianity might try to hide behind cleverly constructed arguments that deny it's bent towards death and destruction, but the evidence is there in their own writings and, more importantly, in the unfortunate results when they are the majority in power.

please withold any applause.

#50 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-06-17 10:30 AM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 2

"moreover it was done by god, who is also, according to christians-- JESUS" - newsworthy

#51 | Posted by klifferd at 2014-06-17 10:36 AM | Reply | Flag:

Obama/bush drone murders/ed people who fail this test every day. No one calls them an extremist.

#52 | Posted by Shawn at 2014-06-17 10:53 AM | Reply | Flag:

christians, being followers of jesus are not supposed to kill, so their apologists say, yet they have killed more innocent people-- men women and children-- in the past 100 years than anyone else in world history.

Don't fail to mention the people here in the US that will die every year due to the "Christians" war on ACA and Planned Parenthood. Those deaths are meaningless somehow.

#53 | Posted by 726 at 2014-06-17 11:37 AM | Reply | Flag:

I'm sure Islam has killed more in the last century that Christianity, or any other religion, has killed.

To even say otherwise is stupid.

#54 | Posted by boaz at 2014-06-17 12:03 PM | Reply | Flag:

aha ha ha...

7... please...

You accuse conservatives of killing people using planned parenthood. I think we should give you a chance to rethink what you said since planned parenthood is a means for liberals to have killed millions over the years. We'll give you a 'do over' here.

#55 | Posted by afkabl2 at 2014-06-17 12:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

"I'm sure Islam has killed more in the last century that Christianity, or any other religion, has killed."

nyuk nyuk nyuk nyuk... coming from a man who's very livelihood is built on killing and destroying.

#56 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-06-17 12:26 PM | Reply | Flag:

"You accuse conservatives of killing people using planned parenthood. I think we should give you a chance to rethink what you said since planned parenthood is a means for liberals to have killed millions over the years. We'll give you a 'do over' here."

conservative christians are too busy thirsting for muslim blood to ever do anything of substance regarding the abortion problem this country has had over the past forty years.

they'll just blame the failure of the inner city minorities to edumacate their own and leave it at that...

#57 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-06-17 12:30 PM | Reply | Flag:

before and during hitler's rule, 9 out of every 10 germans identified themselves as christians. facts are facts, path. as much as you try to deny or twist them...
#46 | POSTED BY NERFHERDER

So? They were white too and mostly male. Fact still remains Nazism was not founded on religion, it was a political ideology. They did not kill people in the name of Christ ever.

However, radical Islamists do kill in the name of Allah.

Those are the facts, that is indisputable.

#58 | Posted by path at 2014-06-17 12:34 PM | Reply | Flag: | Newsworthy 1

#58:

www.youtube.com

game/set/match.

come back when you want some more.

#59 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-06-17 12:41 PM | Reply | Flag:

What difference does it make? - Hillary

#60 | Posted by sames1 at 2014-06-17 12:44 PM | Reply | Flag:

#59: Funny. So, some Christian hating Muslims created a You-Tube video to promote their distorted view of history and hate towards Christians. Big deal. No news here.

#61 | Posted by path at 2014-06-17 01:12 PM | Reply | Flag:

#61 attacking the people who created the video, not actually watching the video to see hitler, in his own words, negating his entire argument...

#62 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2014-06-17 01:59 PM | Reply | Flag:

Reject philosophies derived from source documents written right-to-left.

#63 | Posted by flyuntied at 2014-06-17 06:55 PM | Reply | Flag:

"Nazism was not founded on religion, it was a political ideology. "

do you even know what the 3rd reich means?

isis wants to bring back the caliphate... hitler wanted to bring back the holy roman empire...

ignore the man behind the curtains.

#64 | Posted by klifferd at 2014-06-17 08:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

I can see how you can make that connection if you so choose to do so, but reich means empire the Roman Empire was a reich in german terms, but does not mean Christian. Hitler wanted his own empire (reich).

Facts: "at the age of fifteen, he (Hitler) ceased attending Mass and participating in the sacraments in later life.[1] In adulthood, he became disdainful of Christianity"

"historians such as Ian Kershaw, Joachim Fest and Alan Bullock agree that Hitler was anti-Christian"

"Evans wrote that Hitler repeatedly stated that Nazism was a secular ideology founded on science, which in the long run could not "co-exist with religion"[15]"

the Goebbels Diaries, the memoirs of Speer, and the transcripts edited by Martin Bormann contained within Hitler's Table Talk.[4] Goebbels wrote in 1941 that Hitler "hates Christianity, because it has crippled all that is noble in humanity."

en.wikipedia.org

#65 | Posted by path at 2014-06-18 09:08 AM | Reply | Flag:

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